That is just stupid.

What they should be doing is using a giant hydraulic press, and a grated floor to strain the juices from the solid bits. This just looks amateurish.

Ok. Ya'know what? Walk! Crazy people and their trains . . .

The benefit of cramming people in like that must be canceled out by the amount of time spent pushing them in, and also what if they need to evacuate the train in hurry, or the train crashes? there is going to a be alot of dead, squished commuters.

And in Soviet Russia, trains like to make YOU are full!


Anyway, how is something like that even socially acceptable? Try that in America and see if you don't get your teeth punched out.

Look for the movie "Sore Demo Boku Wa Yatteinai" ("But, I Didn't Do It"), by the director of the original Japanese version of "Shall We Dance?". It's about a guy who's falsely accused of molesting a girl on a train and his refusal to confess to a crime he didn't commit and submit to the ruthless Japanese legal system. This kind of stuff really leads to problems with molesting, etc. That's why I live up north in Hokkaido. At the most crowded times, I *might* not be able to sit down. In Tokyo, the capacities of trains regularly reach "250% of Capacity". Just frightening!

I'm guessing they don't have designated seats for the elderly or pregnant. This video really makes me want to visit. When do we leave? On second thought, I think I'd rather visit the South Pole in the dead of winter and sit on a penguin egg for a few months.

How the hell do people get off at stations? Or are they express trains that only stop at a start and end station?

How many people die each year from that?

I think you can wait for the next train if you aren't pressed for time. Nobody is forcing them to do this.

Can you imagine if somebody cracked one off in there? Or is making a quick visit to the loo a requirement?

I've been on some crowded trains in Japan but never like this. Its hard to get off at your station but you just push throught till you get to the door.

They are all going to play Nintendo!

A recipe for some serious grab ass.

theres always room for just one more.

"um...I'll walk"

when I was in Tokyo, all the subway stops were quick, automatic, and frequent. The doors automatically open for a short interval then automatically close and the train automatically starts moving. It's the same amount of time at each stop, around 20sec. There wouldn't be time for this kind of stuff. Some trains had standing room only but there was no pushing. This is definitely not typical. Sane people would have waited for the next train instead of seeing how many people can be packed into one train. Ordinary subway lines don't have that many porters around. This arrangement would really suck if someone wants to get off before the final destination.

The interesting thing is that there were only five people on the train when it arrived.
They were all sumo wrestlers.

>> ^jwray:

I don't think it's a subway although it's tagged as such. This is most probably a commuter train. If you don't take this one you would be late since they don't run very often. But the main problem is that everyone has to take the same train because they all start working at the exact same hour (and they can't be even one minute late/early at most companies: if you come early you'll be expected to come this early every single day and if you're late you're fired).

This is why they have all those infamous 'no groping' signs.

Lest anyone forget, here's another vid of the same business, so you know this wasn't a fluke: http://www.videosift.com/video/Subway-Station-in-Japan

I'd get in...



... with a chainsaw!

The rush-hour trains were the one thing I hated when I lived in Tokyo. I have a vivid memory of my face being pressed against the glass, seeing a sign painted on the train car on the opposite side of the tracks that said "Maximum Number of Passengers: 100," and laughing my ass off because there were at least 300 people pressed in behind me. Adding to the discomfort is the fact that dental hygiene is a low priority for a lot of the Japanese businessmen who are breathing all over you and also the fact that the Japanese typically don't bathe until after they get home from work, so the air gets funky real quick--especially during the nice humid summers. I used to have to put up with that an hour a day each way every day. By Tokyo standards I was considered lucky since many people have train commutes of 2 hours or more.

Don't get me wrong, living in Japan was fantastic. But Tokyo rush-hour trains were most certainly not.

I got stuck in Osaka rush hour. Absolutely nothing like this, but it was quite crammed. Expect a long ride standing up, the locals are just use to it. Popular past times to keep from going nuts seem to be... hentai or manga books, porn, newspapers, video gaming, cell phone texting, and plenty of beer. Yeah you can drink brews on the trains and it is perfectly legal.

If you miss your last train, as many workaholics do... spend the night at a local area public spa. Food, brews, bathhouse, massage, and capsule hotel. Try it at least once, it's surely worth the experience. Better with a few friends along for sure though.

Regarding groping. Yes it is a problem, but apparently it is much less tolerated. Train cars designated for women only can be found.

Want to get off? Know your stop. Plan ahead. Push through. Just don't knock people over. Just repeat 'sumimasen', and out you go.

>> ^SDGundamX:
and also the fact that the Japanese typically don't bathe until after they get home from work,


As opposed to showering in the middle of the day at work?

I heard the Kyoto-Osaka commuter train is like this during rush hour. Osaka looks ghetto compared to Tokyo.

The short range subways run so frequently that this wouldn't happen.

And my god, a 2+ hour commute is insane. I'd rather live in a dorm room sized (150 sq. feet) apartment if it's within 10 minutes of everywhere I need to go. All I do in my apartment is eat, sleep, and computer, anyways. I'd rather work for 25k a year next door than work for 50k a year and have to commute 4 hours a day.

All this urban sprawl and commuterism is contributing a great deal to global warming.
Since people put up with this sardine bullshit just for fear of being fired for being late, they need to reevaluate their priorities and find a job closer to home. 99% of people think they need more money than they really need.

Not only is money useless if you don't have time to enjoy it, but there's not much worth buying with it beyond the first 30k a year. The utility function is like logarithmic. Especially for single computer geeks, what more do you need than a good computer on a fat pipe, good food, and a bed? Maybe a park next door?

you obviously know very little about japanese culture and why they put up with a 2 hour commute.

this reminds me of my middle school days in Daegu, Korea where local students had to take the city bus to get to school. Every morning the bus would be jam packed with school kids and if the buses are full, then the driver just skips his stops.

And the rest of us would have to wait another 30 minutes for an empty one. So by the time we get to school we're nearly 1 hour late. And teachers are waiting at the gates to punish you (usually they force you to a push-up position on the floor until the classes start. But before you get off the floor, teacher whacks your butt 10 times with a 2 by 4 or a baseball bat).

Good times...

Oh my God, is that real?!? Insane! You'd think they were going to a concentration camp.

so polite...they never look at eachother. The porters are so helpful, yes?

>> ^MarineGunrock:
>> ^SDGundamX:
and also the fact that the Japanese typically don't bathe until after they get home from work,

As opposed to showering in the middle of the day at work?


As opposed to in the morning. They thought I was nuts for taking a shower in the morning. In their minds, you should bathe before you go to bed, after working up a good sweat at work. Makes sense, actually, except if I really did get that dirty at work I'd probably shower in both the morning and the evening.

Oh, and the reason for two hour commutes is the same there as it is here in the SF Bay Area. For the same price that it would cost you to live in a studio the size of a closet in the city (along with all the pollution and noise that comes with it) you could live in a nice house in the quiet suburbs two hours away.

I think Japan has it worse than most developed countries, though, in that the job market is more heavily concentrated in the major cities. For a lot of people, regardless of their chosen career, they can only find job opportunities or career advancement if they work in the city rather than the suburbs.

This is well out of date! Not only is it an old movie, but also it certainly doesn't happen much like that anymore. Most people will either wait for the next train or take an alternate route. Here in Osaka if people push like that, there'll be a huge argument and/or a fight.

I find it amusing webpages like this constantly show Japanese shows and things from i.e. the mid-eighties and claim it recent!

Because it satisfies the stereotype...

Yeah. Uh-huh.

Yep, this is old. In the last 10 years, in Osaka at least, pushing on trains has become unacceptable, with signs everywhere telling people to stop it.

I used to do a 60 minute commute on the Hirakata sen and it was pretty bad, standing absolutely jam-packed the whole way. One night I was summoning up the courage to deck some guy for doing this slow humping kinda thing on my behind, except I couldn't twist around to see who it was, least of all get my elbow ready for the jab. Then when the train half-emptied at the next stop and all that was left was this very drunk guy, who with all the swaying of the train, was doing a very loose-hipped kind of lurch, eyes shut, half-unconscious I forgave him for the action on my person.

>you obviously know very little about japanese culture and why they put up with a 2 hour commute.

Yes, I know about Japanese job-loyalty. It's a mind virus that turns people into slaves.

When I was in Tokyo I used the subway frequently and the only time it was uncomfortably crowded was after a special event (summer fireworks).

Wonder how many got pregnant.

Are there any statistics on deaths? That kind of crowding kills people.

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