Hillary Clinton appears to faint stumble during 911 Memorial

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"Hillary appears to faint and stumble while being propped up and aided by her staff and other people. She appears to go into the black van head first while others try to help her inside.

Her campaign says that she 'overheated' and the 9/11 memorial and had to leave the ceremony.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/11/politic...

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-..."






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HugeJerksays...

I still can't vote for the Republican trainwreck, I'd rather vote for a corpse with a decent human as the VP pick than the delusional bigot and Mike Pence.

notarobotsays...

Of course, the other theory is that she might be showing signs of Parkinson's disease...


bobknight33says...

Pneumonia my but.

If She had pneumonia it would be reckless to standing there spewing germs over everyone.

Then when she comes out of her daughters place and a "staged" little girl comes up to her, if she die have pneumonia she should have not let the little girl get near her.

She does not have pneumonia. It just her PR machine with PR BS.

bobknight33says...

So are you implying she is fit?

Clearly there is something medically going on with her.

Yep she is
medically unfit
physically unfit
mentally unfit

She is a train wreck and she just derailed.

newtboysaid:

Lovely.
Just what her campaign needs.
I guess that means 2 more months of "she's physically unfit".
Just lovely.....crap.

Paybacksays...

Bob thinks pneumonia = hemorrhagic fever...

Dude, it's an inflammation of the lungs caused by something else, like the flu or a cold. She just didn't take care of herself and suffers from no small amount of stress.

It's serious, for her, but you can't "catch" pneumonia.

newtboysays...

I have a mother with it...and that ain't it. Parkinson's would be obvious, especially if it's progressed to the point where it would make her fall.

iauisaid:

I have a friend who has Parkinson's, Hillary clearly doesn't have it.

newtboysays...

It's a combination of wishful thinking and ignorance. He wishes she had something that might kill her (not thinking that that would leave the Democrats with an arguably better candidate), and also wishes she had something that would make her being in public irresponsible, and not knowing any better he makes that claim.
Of course, there's absolutely no evidence of any such thing, but that never stopped Bob from spouting conspiracy theories.
Now, if Trump had pneumonia and collapsed, you can be certain he would be talking about how it was no big deal, he just tripped, and would say the whole thing is just the liberal media making things up and making mountains out of molehills.

I will say, knowing the position of her opposition that's been making claims about her health for weeks, it was a terrible idea to ignore doctors orders and go out in public, especially without hydrating thoroughly and taking it easy. This video just gives them ammunition...but only with the gullible or pre-decided....but they aren't in short supply.

Paybacksaid:

Bob thinks pneumonia = hemorrhagic fever...

Dude, it's an inflammation of the lungs caused by something else, like the flu or a cold. She just didn't take care of herself and suffers from no small amount of stress.

It's serious, for her, but you can't "catch" pneumonia.

MilkmanDansays...

To be fair:

There were lots of questions about John McCain's health when he ran for president. Especially after he named Palin to be his VP. Now, here we are 8 years later and he is fine and still serving in the Senate.

I'm not complaining about that -- I think that it was a legitimate concern to bring up. Particularly because Palin would have taken over if anything had happened.


It is just as legitimate of a concern in Hillary's case. ...And this is a rather terrible thing to say, but personally, I'd say that her ticket gets *more* attractive the more likely it seems that she might keel over at any second. I could probably justify voting for Tim Kaine over Trump, but with the race being Hillary vs Trump I'll vote 3rd party. Sorta the exact opposite of the Palin scenario...

notarobotsays...

@newtboy & @iaui

The Parkinson's theory isn't mine. I'm not a doctor, so I can't make the diagnosis myself. The theory is from the video I linked to in my above comment. Are his observations completely off base?

Is it possible for what he's talking about to be early stages of an onset of Parkinson's? Or could some of the symptoms be treated with medication if the disease isn't yet severe?

newtboysays...

Yes, he's way off base IMO. For instance, the "head nod tremor" he mentions is CLEARLY not a tremor, it's a deliberate head nod. Tremors are uncontrollable, randomly timed spastic shaking, not slow, deliberate, large movements. We would have seen them during the debates, or any speech, and they would be clearly non deliberate movements.
What you would expect to see is uncontrolled hand/arm tremors, almost certain in someone who has Parkinson's that would make her legs weak and/or cause falling. Even M. J. Fox still walks around without help publicly.
My mother was diagnosed less than a year ago, and she has constant hand tremors, but she still walks miles daily with no leg weakness, even after spinal surgery. I get that it presents differently in different people, but his observations and conclusions are ridiculous based on my experience.
The very idea that he might publicly diagnose her based on the video evidence he provided is almost malpractice, and is certainly biased.
I wonder what he says about Trumps Emperor Palpatine eyes? Surely they're an indicator of something much worse than Parkinson's.

notarobotsaid:

@newtboy & @iaui

The Parkinson's theory isn't mine. I'm not a doctor, so I can't make the diagnosis myself. The theory is from the video I linked to in my above comment. Are his observations completely off base?

Is it possible for what he's talking about to be early stages of an onset of Parkinson's? Or could some of the symptoms be treated with medication if the disease isn't yet severe?

Fairbssays...

Also to be fair, I think it's legitimate to have trump provide a more thorough exam than his doctor writing something up off the cuff about how he's in the best shape of any president ever. freakin ridiculous, the guy's older than Hillary and very obese.

MilkmanDansaid:

To be fair:

There were lots of questions about John McCain's health when he ran for president. Especially after he named Palin to be his VP. Now, here we are 8 years later and he is fine and still serving in the Senate.

I'm not complaining about that -- I think that it was a legitimate concern to bring up. Particularly because Palin would have taken over if anything had happened.


It is just as legitimate of a concern in Hillary's case. ...And this is a rather terrible thing to say, but personally, I'd say that her ticket gets *more* attractive the more likely it seems that she might keel over at any second. I could probably justify voting for Tim Kaine over Trump, but with the race being Hillary vs Trump I'll vote 3rd party. Sorta the exact opposite of the Palin scenario...

dannym3141says...

I have a few questions if anyone would care to satisfy my curiosity, I've seen/read a lot of stuff and I don't know what the reliable sources are for this. I'll list them so they're easy to answer, and I'm not trying to imply stuff or score any points, I just want to know. Sorry if any of this is tin-foil hat rubbish but I've been unable to sleep recently and ended up watching a lot of old crap, in a weakened mental state.

1 - Were those people with her yesterday, and does she often travel with, a nurse and a doctor?
2 - What's with the coughing and sicking up green globules into the glass of water? Never seen anything like that green stuff before.
3 - Did she need help getting up some stairs a while ago, or were they misleading photos?
4 - Why did no one react to her going completely limp? I can understand the well trained entourage explanation, but they didn't even look around to check for danger, considering their VIP went lifeless.
5 - Why did they take a collapsed elderly woman with pneumonia to an apartment rather than a hospital?
6 - Why say it was heat stroke?
7 - Has she really been pulling out of a lot of campaign events?

To be honest, I don't find her collapsing a worry at all. I've collapsed due to illness and I'm healthy and fit. What i do find strange is the reaction and lying about it. Somehow that makes me question the other things, but there you have it - my questions.

I think Clinton and Trump are equally bad. Clinton represents everything that disgusts me about politics - the 1%, 'the establishment', privilege and modern society, she will continue to sign off murdering innocent people and destroying the ecosystem for profit worldwide. Trump is.. well, offensive, sexist, racist, but i think only because it makes him popular, like a school bully, but he doesn't understand the new platform he has or what effect his words have on how people behave, and all in all that makes him a cowardly, selfish, egotistical weasel who we're about to give the keys to everything. Either way, we are fucked.

coolhundsays...

My grandma had it and a few of my friends. They all had different signs of it at the start. Some trembled very soon, some had symptoms like a completely other disease and some didnt show much of it until it massively broke out all at once.
All I learned from that is that you cant say if people have Parkinsons or not over the Internet, unless its very obvious. It can start slow, just like most other diseases, and can have symptoms that arent that obviously linked to it. It actually took a year or so until the doctors of my Grandma identified it as Parkinsons and she didnt have trembles until much much later (about 5 or 6 years).

iauisaid:

I have a friend who has Parkinson's, Hillary clearly doesn't have it.

chicchoreasays...

With all due respect and sympathy to anyone that knows someone that has had or has Parkinson's, I have known a number of people and have a family member in late stage now, it is entirely possible that she has Parkinson's, stage 3 for instance.

iauisaid:

I have a friend who has Parkinson's, Hillary clearly doesn't have it.

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