Global warming or unicorns? Which do you believe in?

Oooh, love those magic words. Intellectual Dishonesty. Right to their ferrety little faces.
chingalerasays...

Why stop there? Add these journalistic abortions to your short list of similar schlock-proctors, it's the same bag of shit with a more palatable label for those so programatically-defined:

MSNBC
ABC
CBS
NBC
CNN
Too many newspapers to name as complicit shit-rags, but try these time-honored, not-worth-wiping-with, pulp-poopaganda pages:
Newsweek
TIME
U.S. News & World Report

All designed to do one thing;
Guide peeps with no need-to-know into becoming much more ineffectual and idiocratic citizens.

They're all the fucking same beast, Babylon.

charliemsaid:

Good lord I hate fox news so much.

Fletchsays...

In the spirit of Godwin, I propose a new internet law that describes the inevitability of the MSNBC false equivalency whenever a comment or topic criticizes FOX news.

I love ya, choggie, and VS is way better and more interesting with you here, but this dog just don't hunt.

I think the days of intrepid journalism are largely over for most of the news sources you mentioned, but there still are pockets of resistance to the inanity that passes as news in America. Regardless of whichever political ideolgy you most identify with, you cannot dismiss MSNBC as opposite but equal to FOX. MSNBC is most definitely liberal/progressive, but they wear it on their sleeve, and their spin is backed by facts and reality. FOX spins everything, and completely misinforms it's viewers fans by simply making shit up, not to mention the ubiquitous fear-mongering, the subliminal programming of their crawl, the always-angry, paranoid, petty, spiteful, and shrill talking heads, and the daily memo'd bullet points that are regurgitated verbatim and hammered into the brains of their veiwers all day long from show to show. The dolts on FOX and Friends have got to be the three DUMBEST people ever to thousand-yard stare into a camera. FOX is "news entertainment" at best.

There are infinite shades of gray between black and white, and MSNBC is definitely biased, but you can't say it isn't factual (the vast majority of time). If there was a true "equal but opposite" version of MSNBC, I would watch it. Unfortunately, FOX serves only as a source of amusement for me. "No Spin Zone" makes me giggle every time Papa Bear says it. It's brilliant parody.

That said, we agree that Americans are largely low information because low information is exactly what we get from the news sources readily available. But the "truth" is out there if one cares enough to go look for it.

For starters...
Al Jazeera
CBC News
BBC News
Christian Science Monitor
Reuters

chingalerasaid:

Why stop there? Add these journalistic abortions to your short list of similar schlock-proctors, it's the same bag of shit with a more palatable label for those so programatically-defined:

...

MSNBC

All designed to do one thing;
Guide peeps with no need-to-know into becoming much more ineffectual and idiocratic citizens.

oblio70says...

I, for one, agree with you Cho...chingalera, as I believe investigative reporting is largely dead in the states. Dan Carlin has an episode of his podcast Common Sense dedicated to this issue titled "This is DNN" wherein he highlights actual news being dug up outside the States. This would be when a reporter asks an interviewee a question and won't let go until a definitive answer is rendered, or admission that it will not be answered ("secret-memo" style).

It seems that for the most part, not only are the questions being asked either already talking-points-sanctioned and/or soft, but the responses are accepted at face value. The bulk of what is called news is really just opinion set-pieces of the network hosting them. This is worse than a waste of time; this is damaging!

chingalerasaid:

Why stop there? Add these journalistic abortions to your short list of similar schlock-proctors, it's the same bag of shit with a more palatable label for those so programatically-defined:

MSNBC
ABC
CBS
NBC
CNN
Too many newspapers to name as complicit shit-rags, but try these time-honored, not-worth-wiping-with, pulp-poopaganda pages:
Newsweek
TIME
U.S. News & World Report

All designed to do one thing;
Guide peeps with no need-to-know into becoming much more ineffectual and idiocratic citizens.

They're all the fucking same beast, Babylon.

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