Don't mess with bloggers armed with science

My new personal hero, Rebecca Watson, lays out how the British Chiropractic Association got its ass handed to it by lowly bloggers armed with science.

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d3bas3rsays...

I go to the chiropractor when my back hurts, it gets cracked then it feels less bad. I did not no about the other stuff chiropractors were doing. I wonder if my guy is a crazy, he never mentions crazy stuff.

robbersdog49says...

The difficulty with chiropractors is that for some things, the manipulation helps (as would massage). The problem is that this gives them an air of respectability and allows them to get away with some outrageous claims. We end up with people like d3bas3r going round saying chiropractors are good and what they do works, and others will then believe the wacky stuff.

(This is not a dig at d3bas3r! It's just an observation)

Duckman33says...

>> ^robbersdog49:
We end up with people like d3bas3r going round saying chiropractors are good and what they do works, and others will then believe the wacky stuff.
(This is not a dig at d3bas3r! It's just an observation)


I didn't see anywhere in his statement where he said chiropractors were "good". He said it makes his back feel "less bad". To me, that implies that it works somewhat.

That's exactly how I feel when I leave a chiropractors office. My back feels "less bad". But certainly not completely cured. And the pain always returns within a few days to a week. Which is why I do not keep going back to them every week so they can suck me dry financially, while also trying to sell me special ointments and pillows, etc.

Tyrsissays...

Chiropractors who perform manual manipulation can cause a lot more issues than they can solve if they aren't well practiced or very careful. Even the ones who don't perform them (there are many who refuse to do manual manipulation), and use purely machine based treatment (VAX-D, etc), can sometimes be a little seedy. My wife works for one (she performs the rehab, post-treatment) and sees traits like that all the time in the industry. The problem though is that a lot of people she sees are in a huge amount of pain, and even temporary to short term relief is better than nothing. We're not talking an aching back, "oh it hurts when I bend over" type pain, we're talking constant agonizing, please kill me, back pain. Most of them will be confined to very potent opiates to deal with the pain for the rest of their life, and it's actually sort of horrible. Some other options are also equally problematic (fusing the discs in your spine, etc), and while that can help, can cause a host of other issues.

The biggest problem with chiropractors are some honestly believe they can cure everything with a proper adjustment, when in reality they can usually at most just help or relieve a problem. I think some doctor claiming that adjusting babies is a good idea is completely bonkers.

Shepppardsays...

I used to go to a chiropractor when I was young.

She didn't do anything other then crack my back in a few places, but I did always feel better going out the I did coming in.

Years passed, and I suddenly had problems with my leg, couldn't tell you what, I can't even remember now, it was about 10 years ago. However, every once in a while my right leg would straight up just give out, couldn't support any weight, and I'd end up falling.

I wound up going back to a chiropractor, they ended up taking a look at my knee, pulling and adjusting a couple things and after that I was fine. To the point where the only reason I remembered was because of this video.

Now, they can't fix everything, colic isn't something a spinal adjustment can fix, however, they CAN and DO help people with certain things.

FlowersInHisHairsays...

Chiropractic is NOT joint manipulation, it is not sports massage, it is not physiotherapy. It is the spiritual belief that bodily ailments are caused by "subluxations" - misalignments in the spine - that interrupt the flow of life-force energy to various areas of the body. Now, some people who call themselves chiropractors do also practice sports massage and physiotherapy alongside (or even instead of) this energy-medicine quackery, and they may well provide excellent treatment of injuries and disorders within those fields.

But I say again, that's not chiropractic, which is an unscientific, evidenceless alternative medicine technique, the purported benefits of which simply disappear under clinical trials and systematic reviews. While spinal manipulation may benefit back pain, it also poses risks, especially in children. I would not let my baby's developing spinal cord be shunted about by what is essentially a witch-doctor in a white coat.

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