A gang of armed Trump supporters marched on the capitol as Trump instructed them to do in a rally hours earlier, attacked capitol police, and stormed the capitol building, causing a halt to the electoral vote certification and total evacuation. Bomb threats are multiplying.
For some reason, the capitol police had no backup against the violent crowd despite knowing this attack was coming for weeks, and so far not a shot has been fired in defense of the capitol or congress despite armed men breaking through police lines and taking over the building. A stark contrast to the BLM protests in the same area that were met with violent military force despite being peaceful and never entering capitol buildings.
It’s difficult to believe this isn’t intentional.
moonsammysays...

Pretty damned sickening to see a Confederate flag in the US capitol.

My impression is that the police allowed this to happen. It isn't exactly a secret that there's significant overlap between fascists and law enforcement in this country. There's video of the police opening up fencing to allow the rioters through, and at least one clip of an officer in the capitol building taking fucking selfies with the invading rioters.

BSRsays...

Actually it's pretty sickening seeing them with the American Flag. They have "captured the flag" as their symbol of what America is.

If you fly the American flag now you can pretty much be assured that you've labeled yourself as a republican.

They need to choose one of the two flags because they both stand for a different thing.

"This is a song Charles Manson stole from the Beatles.
We're stealing it back" -U2

moonsammysaid:

Pretty damned sickening to see a Confederate flag in the US capitol.

vilsays...

Nice summary, Newt! My thoughts exactly.

The police seems to favour a bunch of (probably armed) hysterical Karens shouting incoherent nonsense over people who actually have reasons to protest and a clear reasonable agenda. Hockey mums shouting at the referee without understanding the rules.

The only slightly face-saving moment was the guy in Pelosis office writing a message and leaving her cell phone on the table instead of dropping his pants and defecating on it. It is possible that these people will yet come through to realize that no, once again, this is not the end of the world that their prophet is calling for.

Trump thinks this is a reality show and anything goes. Theatrical tactics to make it look like he was cheated out of a big win. Also always backs out of everything he says - not his fault this time either?

Security agencies from top to bottom made to look stupid and weak and slow to react. Look at how many police cars are there, how many policemen in fancy dress. It takes hours to control a few hundred Karens who could have been expected from the moment the president called for a march on the Capitol.

What shall you do with a president who calls for a march on the Capitol?

Edit: just found out there had been violent clashes on Tuesday already - what happened yesterday was either incredible incompetence bordering on mental retardation, or a purposeful extension of Trumps narrative. That the police favour Trump so they let the Trump mob storm the building is a nice scenario for some conspiracy theories of our own now :-)

moonsammysays...

I can't agree with that. They seem to fly about 20 different flags, plus numerous bastardizations of the US flag. I saw one rioter with one American flag patch with a rifle silhouette over it, and a few inches lower another American flag patch with a different image over it (I can't recall, but remember noting how freely they corrupted the flag). The rioter seen in Pelosi's office laid the American flag he'd been carrying on a damned filing cabinet to get his photo op with his feet up on her desk.

I feel that their disrespect for the flag, and their putting it on an equal footing with "Trump 2020 Stop the Bullshit" flags and other such idiocy means they haven't "captured" it. Actual loyal Americans can still fly it respectfully, it's our symbol and will never be theirs.

BSRsaid:

Actually it's pretty sickening seeing them with the American Flag. They have "captured the flag" as their symbol of what America is.

drradonsays...

looked "mostly peaceful" to me - why is this so abhorrent when burning of city centers and attacking municipal buildings is considered acceptable protest?

They are both incredibly wrong and sanctimoniously defending one while disparaging the other only adds fuel to the decisiveness that permeates our political environment.

newtboysays...

She wasn’t murdered, she was shot because was a violent traitor attacking police.
How do you know she was unarmed? Because a Trumpster said so? Not that it matters, the mob was armed, she was part of the violent armed mob.
She was rushing police with an armed mob in an effort to subvert democracy. She deserved death along with every single person who entered the building, whether armed or just violently supporting the gun toting, bomb setting, Molotov carrying terrorists who were armed.

Had they been BLM, there would be dozens or more dead and not one that entered the building. Had they been armed Muslims, there would be hundreds dead. But they were armed racist traitors, so one shot is too much? That says a lot about you.

Remember her name as a treasonous traitor to America like all MAGA morons today, and if you find her family, invade their home armed with guns and bombs and destroy it like she was doing. Clearly you think they would be wrong to try to stop that.

TangledThornssaid:

Ashli Babbit was unarmed and murdered by .gov yesterday.

vilsays...

Ashli (who comes up with these names?), poor soul, decided to storm a government building guarded by armed security. EIA? Too early?

Life is not a video game.

Crazed people marching on and storming the Capitol, sent by the President of the US of A.

That would be one unrealistic video game until this week.

Also my estimate of how many people would (should?) get shot, if exactly this were to happen, would have been a lot higher just a few days ago.

vilsays...

Because these Karens were not fighting for their rights or their lives. They were just crazy fans seeking revenge for their team losing a game and trying to lynch the referee to change the result.

And again the President sent them. Thus they become pawns in an ego driven attack against democracy. Remember Trump is making money on donations to support this shitshow.


Rudy just spilled my coffee again with his "trial by combat" speech. This is unreal.

drradonsaid:

...why is this so abhorrent...

vilsays...

"Mostly peaceful" protests usually happen in a park or a street or a university campus, you know, a public place. And then special forces arrive and beat people up and shoot some.

So this was strange for sure. The police seemed mighty reluctant to fight. The mob looked really crazy, attacked the police, but more verbally than physically, and if physically more just pushing them around than throwing things or hitting cops with them. Not even a good hockey fight. But still they stormed the building. Something aint right.

newtboysays...

Not correct.
They used metal barricades to hit police in the face many times. One of the two arrested so far was arrested for repeatedly punching a cop in the face, I think hospitalizing him.
They also sprayed police with pepper spray/mace repeatedly.
I just saw video of a lone officer being chased up a stairway by a group of men and he gets his baton out, not his taser or gun.

Edit: one cop has now died from injuries received from rioters. Over 60 were injured.

Not to mention all the felony destruction of federal property the police made no moves to stop, or that carrying a firearm in the building is a felony that many were committing, or the pipe bombs and molotovs they left behind. Edit: now there’s word that top secret documents and a laptop with more state secrets were stolen.

The only rational explanation for totally insufficient preparations and/or the inhuman restraint is the capitol police were complicit.

Edit: It has now been verified that the Capitol police refused an offer of thousands of extra officers and refused national guard help with the coming Jan 6 riots days earlier, knowing full well that thousands of violent nut jobs were coming to get “wild” as Trump put it, many armed to the teeth and ready to force a “trial by combat”. Even after the armed rioting by the same group the night before, the capitol police still refused any help. They were definitely complicit here. The entire force should be investigated with any that helped prosecuted for dereliction of duty AND sedition....not just the chief, and not just fired. Prosecuted harshly and dumped in gen pop.

vilsaid:

The mob looked really crazy, attacked the police, but more verbally than physically, and if physically more just pushing them around than throwing things or hitting cops with them. Not even a good hockey fight. But still they stormed the building. Something aint right.

newtboysays...

Even after the armed rioting Tuesday, capitol police continued to refuse offers of additional officers or national guard help, knowing full well that armed violence was pre planned by the president himself and tens of thousands had shown up to participate, many armed.

It’s impossible to believe their lack of readiness and/or response was anything but intentional and coordinated. The chief needs to be prosecuted, not allowed to retire with benefits and his pension intact.

vilsaid:

Edit: just found out there had been violent clashes on Tuesday already - what happened yesterday was either incredible incompetence bordering on mental retardation, or a purposeful extension of Trumps narrative. That the police favour Trump so they let the Trump mob storm the building is a nice scenario for some conspiracy theories of our own now :-)

greatgooglymooglysays...

"Who said protests have to be peaceful?"
-Chris Cuomo

The acts of Jan 6 were a little predictable given the police and public responses to riots the last 6 months. People tried to burn down the federal courthouse in Portland, and the worst they got was teargas. Same with burning the church just blocks away from the capitol. No bullets fired at any point. I don't think there was any expectation of getting shot by anyone going in unarmed, the cops seemed satisfied to resist with a shoving match in many cases, even those carrying full-auto assault rifles were remarkably restrained. I think they recovered 5 guns total by people inside?

It looks like there were enough cops to hold the crowd back if they concentrated at the doors, they made a mistake trying to have a large perimeter, which is why we have videos of them taking barriers down because they were just gone around and useless, not because cops were letting them in. There were about 50 full on riot cops with shields who seemed to hold the rear of the building just fine.

BSRsays...

House of cards in action.

Looks like Trump's "Drain The Swamp" plan is finally taking hold. Objective fulfilled.

He's already going through grifter remorse.

newtboysays...

Parlor has been closed, no longer hosted by Amazon and finding it hard to find another host, and pulled from multiple app stores, because the Trump crowd was using it to plan a repeat attack on the 17th.
I wish they would let them plan it, set up the capitol with multiple levels of real unclimbable barricades, not just 3' tall aluminum railings, and use deadly force on everyone who shows up. This country would be better off without them.

newtboysays...

Tear gas....and rubber bullets, in many instances live ammo, hit with clubs, cars, horses, shields, boots. You're just so full of shit.

There was only 1/4 of the capitol police on duty. They knew an attack was coming but refused all offers of help. Two have been arrested for being complicit, and the fbi is investigating them all because it seems they helped protesters find unmarked senators offices. It's looking like many off duty were there helping the terrorists.
No part of the building was held in the end.

greatgooglymooglysaid:

"Who said protests have to be peaceful?"
-Chris Cuomo

The acts of Jan 6 were a little predictable given the police and public responses to riots the last 6 months. People tried to burn down the federal courthouse in Portland, and the worst they got was teargas. Same with burning the church just blocks away from the capitol. No bullets fired at any point. I don't think there was any expectation of getting shot by anyone going in unarmed, the cops seemed satisfied to resist with a shoving match in many cases, even those carrying full-auto assault rifles were remarkably restrained. I think they recovered 5 guns total by people inside?

It looks like there were enough cops to hold the crowd back if they concentrated at the doors, they made a mistake trying to have a large perimeter, which is why we have videos of them taking barriers down because they were just gone around and useless, not because cops were letting them in. There were about 50 full on riot cops with shields who seemed to hold the rear of the building just fine.

newtboysays...

Nope, turns out he (or someone with him) dropped trow and pissed on her desk instead.

It just keeps getting better.

The FBI is investigating capitol police for likely being complicit, opening doors, showing the crowd where hidden offices were, etc. Two have been fired so far, more to come.

vilsaid:

The only slightly face-saving moment was the guy in Pelosis office writing a message and leaving her cell phone on the table instead of dropping his pants and defecating on it.

newtboysays...

Not enough by far, by design. Only 1/4 of the capitol police were on duty for this advertised riot/attack on democracy. Offers of backup from DC police and the national guard were refused. Normal non violent events usually have at least double that number, the non violent BLM protests at BLM park (the whitehouse) had over 7500 law enforcement officers stationed for days, this advertised armed attack and trial by combat had what, <500? Almost half of those were diverted to the two seperate live bombs the terrorists set, yet they still refused offers of more officers and didn't even call in off duty capitol police....good thing, they were busy being part of the riot. The FBI had many indications the Trump crowd planned unprecedented violence, dozens if not hundreds of messages calling for murder of BLM and Antifa members, murder of representatives, murder of anyone trying to stop their coup. "Either we get our president or die fighting for him" was a typical message. Rally points in other states discussed. "This is not a March, not a protest, it's war, come ready for battle." Read numerous others.
Turns out in many cases the barricades were useless because cops refused to use them and allowed people to walk through or around. They have been successfully used uncountable times before, but we’ve never had capitol police themselves be part of the mob, and with so many off duty cops and military in the crowd they thought, like at their job, the rules don’t apply to them or those with them. They talked their coworkers off the line in MANY instances, flashing their badges to gain entry then helping other rioters through.

Even if they weren’t stopping everyone, that’s not a reason to remove them so they stop no one. That’s asinine, I suppose you leave your front door open because your windows won’t stop a determined home invader?

Is your point that a fence that has openings is useless....hmmm...I recall someone else that was willing to divide and bankrupt the nation over a 1/2 of a fence...who was that?

greatgooglymooglysaid:

It looks like there were enough cops to hold the crowd back if they concentrated at the doors, they made a mistake trying to have a large perimeter, which is why we have videos of them taking barriers down because they were just gone around and useless, not because cops were letting them in. There were about 50 full on riot cops with shields who seemed to hold the rear of the building just fine.

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