This makes me sick.

There is no going back now, O look we made her a good guy by knocking her down.

Pull that shit in a place like Eugene and watch what happens. Cops these days need to chill out, there is always an alternative to violence.

I would not want to be in that group of cops doing a job. Because now they are a target for a huge shit storm.

See they had video evidence of a cop using unwarranted force. If she just gathered the evidence and ran like hell she might have made it out ok and been able to (a) sue the Denver PD and (b) take it to the media.

So the police literally snatch her up and arrest her to muzzle her, and make any lawsuit look like it was a sour grapes thing. when you sue the PD it looks different to the court if they arrested you on some charges, or if they hit you in the face with a baton and then never arrested you (obviously they would have arrested someone doing something so illegal as to need a baton to the face).

Thank you Bush voters for the police state. Now go shove a baton up your ass.

That said, Code Pink = annoying and ineffective

Based purely on what she was wearing, I wanted to hit her too

that Madonna look-alike got what she had coming to her

Bill O'Reilly needs to get tasered while being water-boarded. Your snark is ugly, and every comment I've read by you leads me to believe you're a fucking sociopath, hell-bent on shredding our constitution.

Say whatever snark you want about how she dressed or whatever other grade-school nonsense, but police brutality is not fucking funny. And these power-trippers should be in jail, being assraped by the very people they locked-up.

^You need to lurk more.

BillO's comments are generally satire or just not serious.

The bitch screaming "Fuckin' do it again" tells me we don't know enough of what is going on here. It's obvious she was being confrontational. You can't go screaming "brutality" without knowing the whole situation. For all we know, she was pushing him or hitting him.

>> ^MarineGunrock:
The bitch screaming "Do it again" tells me we don't know enough of what is going on here.


She was saying "Don't fuckin' do it again".

The "bitch"?

See, this is what I was talking about. That comment is just too lame. Apparently, some people believe that it's ok for a riot-cop to clothes-line a small girl with a metal baton, who obviously from the video, was not "pushing him or hitting him".

Frame-step through the video, and you can clearly see she was at least 4 feet away from him.

And why would some code-pink girl be "hitting and pushing" a riot cop?

Dude, please.

MGR what the fuck mate?

He polaxed a 7 stone girl from his vantage point of 16 stone lard arse half-riot gear. He could grab her by the scruff of the neck and drag her anywhere he wanted, there is no situation in which this would be a necessary response. Unless she was a zombie from 28-days later.

You often stand up for the "it's only a few bad police, it's not all of them, bad ones just get more attention" and you're often right where people ARE over reacting or not seeing the full picture, but you've overshot by 10 miles here pal.

"Last night at approximately 7:30pm I was arrested as part of a mass arrest at 15th & Court and charged with disrupting a permitted assembly and blocking public streets. A third charge - throwing rocks and missiles - was listed on my pre-printed ticket, but then crossed out.

At the time I was not protesting. I was acting as an observer for the People's Law Project, and was dressed in a button shirt and a neon-green baseball cap stating that I was acting as a representative of the National Lawyers Guild. I followed the protestors out of Civic Center Park, but remained on the sidewalk until pushed by riot police into the street. At no time during the abortive march did any legal observer, or any marcher that I have spoken to, observe any destruction of property, any thrown objects, or ANY ORDER TO DISPERSE BY THE POLICE.

At some point during my visit to Gitmo on the Platte, the compact flash card I had been carrying that contained photographic documentation of the protest disappeared. This included pictures of the badges of some of the officers involved, images of a marcher OBEYING police orders being shot with pepper spray point-blank in the eyes while trying to retreat (when I was hauled away he was sitting with a street medic, and I could hear him sobbing again and again, "I can't see..."), and photographs of a second protestor who was shot three times by what appeared to be three separate officers with bean-bag guns while KNEELING, motionless, 15 FEET AWAY, hands outstretched as if in prayer, and wearing nothing but a pair of POCKETLESS shorts."

-Nathan Acks' experience. Read full story here.

Code Pink = bitch


No, it was just "Fuckin do it again"

"ho obviously from the video"
No, NOTHING is obvious from the video, other than confrontation. We can draw NO conclusions from this video as to what happened prior to the incident.

"You often stand up for the "it's only a few bad police, it's not all of them, bad ones just get more attention" and you're often right where people ARE over reacting or not seeing the full picture, but you've overshot by 10 miles here pal."

I thank you for seeing the insanity that goes on here, but I do not think I overshot anything. I called her a bitch because I think that Code Pink women are just obnoxious and annoying. Other than that, my first comment said the same as this: we don't know the full story.

>> ^MarineGunrock:
Code Pink = bitch

No, it was just "Fuckin do it again"
"ho obviously from the video"
No, NOTHING is obvious from the video, other than confrontation. We can draw NO conclusions from this video as to what happened prior to the incident.

OK, it's become apparent that I shouldn't engage with you in any sort of discussion.

From your idiotic "bitch" comment, to your pseudo-macho screenname, you're obviously all for power-hungry cops beating the shit out of anyone who doesn't agree with your red-meat vision of this country.

And sorry dude, I have a full offline editing suite I'm sitting in right now. I cut and edit video for a living for the editors guild, and do this alllllll day long for 12 years. I know how to look at frames, I know how to study the shit out of them.

What is in this video is not open for debate. It is a little girl, four feet away from this cop, screaming "Don't fuckin' do it again", then suddenly and violently getting clothes-lined by him.

End of fucking story.

^

MGR is sometimes a little over macho, but he's by no means a brainless meat head. I started out hating him, but i have to give him his dues, he didn't and doesn't deserve hatred, he's got a lot of great and important things to say, just sometimes he is a tad bit ... er... militant? It'd be your loss (as it was mine for a while) to completely ignore MGR.

Appreciate the good words, danny.

But any ass with windows movie maker can look at a video frame by frame. I don't care what kind of shit you have - it won't show you what's not in this video (events before or after the clip is cut)

>> ^dannym3141:
^
MGR is sometimes a little over macho, but he's by no means a brainless meat head.


I actually didn't think he was. Usually "brainless meat heads" have horrible grammar, or do the stupid ALL CAP THIGN.

But, the "bitch" comment about some little girl he doesn't know who was practicing her 1st amendment right, and the three references to assuming this girl was in the wrong, leads me to believe he's the 'shoot first, ask questions later' kind.

I don't ignore anyone. Well, except for those 9/11 Truther morons.

A little woman standing there unarmed. There is nothing that could have happened before or after the video that would have made this not an excessive use of force. Plus, the cop called her a bitch. I'm pretty sure that's another breach of the regulations he's supposed to follow.

"On my honor,
I will never betray my badge,
my integrity, my character,
or the public trust.
I will always have the courage
to hold myself and others
accountable for our actions.
I will always uphold the Constitution,
the community,
and the agency I serve,
so help me God."

http://tinyurl.com/6r6n97

why does everyone think everything has to be subjective? we have a video. it is evidence. there are laws. these things can be verified.

you can have an "opinion" that this is not police brutality, but your opinion is wrong. period.

anyone who argues that this isn't police brutality demonstrates they have no respect for the rule of law, common sense, and are quite possibly a closet fascist.

with respect to *insert name* who doesn't believe this is illegal--what if that was your mother getting wrecked in the face with a baton, instead of someone who believes in something you don't--would it be illegal then? your inability to separate reality from your own prejudice is disgusting.

why do some people sign up to be police officers when we are on the verge of a police state? so they can slam women in the face with batons in public and get away with it.

why do some people sign up to be soldiers when we are in the middle of an illegal invasion? so they can kill and rape third world humans.

if your sick of seeing videos like this, start doing something about it.

"Code Pink = bitch"

There's the problem right there.

MG, you magnificent macho sod. There are actual guidelines on escalation of force. Punching someone in the face with a baton is pretty high up there on the force continuity.

See, we don't know what took place before this video starts. What we do know is that the cop assaults her and then when she is on the ground, he DOES NOT arrest her or detain her or question her or continue to do anything that would seem to necessitate the force being used.

See, if he was trying to control a situation or make her obey orders, then if she is so clear not in compliance with his order, they would arrest her. If she was disobeying his order to "moOOOoove" then the question is, is the proper response to hit her in the face/throat area?

Yes, we don't know if she was calling him names or taunting him, but we do know that:
(a) he was in no physical danger
(b) there was not a crowd / wall of people
(c) he should have been in fear for his safety
(d) he was selecting out one person (no one else around her) to push

No one else in the immediate area was being shoved.
If moving people was so important for safety or whatever, then why was she allowed to lay on the ground in the exact same location, why did the police not drag her out of the way? Why was she not arrested.

They should start with verbal command and then use force to control a situation if someone disobeys the verbal order. If someone disobeys a verbal order in these situations they would arrest her. The fact that she was not immediately arrested should tell you something.

if any of those cops deserved even a sliver of respect from anyone, one of them would have immediately tackled and arrested the cop that assaulted her.

"See, we don't know what took place before this video starts. What we do know is that the cop assaults her and then when she is on the ground, he DOES NOT arrest her or detain her or question her or continue to do anything that would seem to necessitate the force being used."

You are absolutely right - I hadn't thought of that. To be honest, I paid little attention to the events after the strike. I knew the thread would focus on that itself.

Up until then, I was going to say "over use of force != brutality", but you make a very solid point, JD.

HOWEVER - to the mother fuckers saying I don't support 1st Amendment right or shit like thst:

Fuck off.

I signed my life into guardianship of those rights, so don't think for a second that I think they should be smothered.

So yes, that was brutality, and he should have his testicles chopped off with a rusty cleaver.
Not only is it abuse of power, abuse of a woman, it makes it that much harder for the respectable cops to do their job.

I do agree with MG though that on the Sift people all too often watch 30 second clips (like this), make a TON of assumptions, and then act as if all of those assumptions are indisputable facts. I would really like to have seen the footage leading up to this clip. Clearly it exists, but the original poster probably felt that this edit would accurately get out his/her political message.

>> ^SDGundamX:
I do agree with MG though that on the Sift people all too often watch 30 second clips (like this), make a TON of assumptions, and then act as if all of those assumptions are indisputable facts. I would really like to have seen the footage leading up to this clip. Clearly it exists, but the original poster probably felt that this edit would accurately get out his/her political message.


since we don't have a video of the events leading up to what is shown, but we have brains--how about you go ahead and describe an event leading up the start of the video which would justify the officer assaulting her in the manner he did.

heres one:
"the woman just shot another cop in the face, dropped her weapon, and started to get in this cops face"

even in this situation, you cannot justify the cops actions! in fact there is no possible situation that you could conceive that happened before this that could have justified it. so why don't you get over your prejudice and wake the f*ck up?

1) There is never a good reason to hit a small innocent unarmed woman in the face with a baton.

2) Stop calling women bitches. It's a gender-specific sexist term. The 90's are over, it's 2008. Show a little respect.

3) I know you empathize with authority figures because of your job, but I think you need to take that into account when making judgements like this. This guy is a coward who isn't protecting or serving anyone. He should be in jail tossing salad. You disrespect the honor of all police officers by sticking up for this maggot. If you are concerned with how the public perceives police officers, then you should be furious at this guy.

4) Why do people hate Code Pink? They are for peace and women's rights, two things that are generally accepted as noble causes. Enough of the He Man Woman Haters Club already.

\/ note: Don't know if you're talking to me, but I wrote this before reading your apology. (comment edited)

You mean I didn't with my last comment?

I've already admitted that I was wrong - what more can I say?

>> ^MarineGunrock:
You mean I didn't with my last comment?
I've already admitted that I was wrong - what more can I say?


I would like to give massive respect to MarineGunrock for changing his mind on the issue.

I still love you, mg.

>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:
1) There is never a good reason to hit a small innocent unarmed woman in the face with a baton.


Well, unless she is a bitch, you mean.

>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:
2) Stop calling women bitches. It's a gender-specific sexist term. The 90's are over, it's 2008. Show a little respect.

Eh? I've been called a bitch before..

(often after being slapped in the face and kicked in the nuts and ooooh i liked it!)

Seriously though, it's not..

edit: lol at implied invocation of tossed salad man

She was going for her pixie-dust.. she had to be stopped.

^SDGundamX:
I do agree with MG though that on the Sift people all too often watch 30 second clips (like this), make a TON of assumptions, and then act as if all of those assumptions are indisputable facts. I would really like to have seen the footage leading up to this clip. Clearly it exists, but the original poster probably felt that this edit would accurately get out his/her political message.

>> ^imstellar28:
>> since we don't have a video of the events leading up to what is shown, but we have brains--how about you go ahead and describe an event leading up the start of the video which would justify the officer assaulting her in the manner he did.
heres one:
"the woman just shot another cop in the face, dropped her weapon, and started to get in this cops face"
even in this situation, you cannot justify the cops actions! in fact there is no possible situation that you could conceive that happened before this that could have justified it. so why don't you get over your prejudice and wake the f ck up?


You just made my case for me with that post right there. Exactly where is the prejudice in my original post? Exactly where do I state in my post that the cop is justified? All I said was that I wanted to see what happened leading up to this and somehow you jumped to the conclusion that I blindly approve of all police actions in this video and beyond. You claim to have a brain--please use it more effectively to stop acting like your assumptions are categorically true.

Yeah, Sometimes I think MGR says the shit he does just to get people riled up too He has to like it to some degree after all he's here pretty much 24/7 so he knows how people think here.

gotta give him his props for both taking back his comments and for stirring the pot. Everyplace needs someone like that from time to time.

MGR, just don't stir the pot in Denver while wearing your pink hairbow, you might be called a bitch and poleaxed (I just had to type that once) by the cops.

She literally asked for it.

I am Police Man, hear me roar! *squeeek* I will now swing my mighty baton in your face with my man-powers.

If I was standing next to them I would have immediately pushed the cop over as hard as I could. But wait, that would be assault, right?

Hrmmm, I also looked frame by frame, slowmo, and multiple times.

My opinion? (Audio, and my own demented form of logic)
Cop: Shoves protester, saying "back it up bitch"
Protester: Feels cop has no right to touch her, hopes someone would video tape what happens when she says "fuckin do it again!"

Camera moves to view (no longer opinion, video fact):
Cop: does shove her again, this time with considerably greater force and an inital impact, at her shoulders, baton across upper chest, knocking her down.
Cop: "Back up bitch!"

I think what you see here was an escalation against someone who was obviously there for a confrontation (people just watching/showing support don't need bullhorns). Not for me to say if it was warranted or not, but unless you were there and saw everything, including what she said to him while the video was blurred out and the audio edited, it's not for you to say either.

I want to see or at least hear the 10 previous seconds whoever youtubed this obviously felt the need to edit out.

Everyone else except MarineRock crying police brutality here.

She was begging for it. Thank god our policemen and policewomen are willing to protect themselves. I take the side of the police officers here. Then they arrest her on top of it. Excellant job. Pwnij.

Code Pink is a communist front, founded by a communist. While that alone doesn't warrant a beating (altho being in favor of an -ism that has slaughtered 100 million people and counting worldwide should be "frowned upon") these doofs are sh;t-disturbers.

This is just street theater for them, when they left for this protest they knew exactly what they're going to do provoke confrontations (later edited only by their own people, very bolshevik) seeking footage like this, trying to duplicate the Rodney King video or Don't-tase-me-bro asswipe.

YOU HAVE BEEN MANIPULATED by master propagandists.

Someone let me know when this goes to court and ALL the facts come out. If a jury finds the cop guilty, I'll be the first to apologize, but never for berating Code Pink's underlying foul, murderous ideology.

I think it is quite telling that they don't arrest the woman after knocking her to the ground, rather she is quickly and forcefully put into custody as soon as she begins to tell her story to the media.

Something is seriously, seriously wrong. Videos like this reinforce my belief that all citizens should be allowed to be armed. I'm not saying the cop should've been shot, but I think he might've hesitated before throwing his weight around and grossly abusing his power and position.

>> ^MarineGunrock:
You mean I didn't with my last comment?
I've already admitted that I was wrong - what more can I say?


Too many people like to shoot off their comments before they get to the end of the thread. They must just love hearing the sound of their words in their head, typed out and submitted for all to see.


>> ^joedirt:
>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:
1) There is never a good reason to hit a small innocent unarmed woman in the face with a baton.

Well, unless she is a bitch, you mean.


A comment dripping with satire.

>> ^DrPawn:
Everyone else except MarineRock crying police brutality here.
She was begging for it. Thank god our policemen and policewomen are willing to protect themselves. I take the side of the police officers here. Then they arrest her on top of it. Excellant job. Pwnij.


A comment which proves my first point... read the entire thread or face the wrath of the mighty downvote (wooooo). Sheesh.


>> ^Xax:
Something is seriously, seriously wrong. Videos like this reinforce my belief that all citizens should be allowed to be armed. I'm not saying the cop should've been shot, but I think he might've hesitated before throwing his weight around and grossly abusing his power and position.


Um, I'm not an American Rights Scholar or anything, but I think you already have that right.

Oh man, that's a video I want to see on the top 15.

"Code Pink armed with shotguns"

Might end up violating the no-snuff rule, though.

I just realized that vids where *humanitarian and civil rights are being violated, whether or not it's *nsfw, probably belong in that channel, eh?

Also, I checked out the full story from the link below.

>> ^EDD:
"Last night at approximately 7:30pm I was arrested <snip> a second protestor who was shot three times by what appeared to be three separate officers with bean-bag guns while KNEELING, motionless, 15 FEET AWAY, hands outstretched as if in prayer, and wearing nothing but a pair of POCKETLESS shorts."
-Nathan Acks' experience. Read full story here.


The cops sound like complete tools for what they did - but so does this PZ Myers guy. Looks like one of his fans agrees.

http://pzmyers.wordpress.com/2008/08/28/pz-myers-is-an-endless-distortion/

PZ failed as a blog writer by combining two disparate topics into one post. Way to undermine messages through conflation.

This video has been flagged as being Not Suitable For Work - declared nsfw by Krupo.

Adding video to channels (Humanitarian) - requested by Krupo.

Wrong, officer violated his oath.

Never ever go straight to escalation.

Should have just arrested her not beaten her.

http://www.crimedoctor.com/security_guards_2.htm

She literally asked for it... and the policeman fell for it. But they have been harassed by these psycho protesters for hours and hours - one is bound to snap.

Protesters piss me off.
More so the confrontational ones that just have to be at the front of the line.

Also, that wasn't a head shot, it was a standard forward push used to force a crowd backwards. Generally however, it's done with the end of the baton at mid chest height. That was a little high, but still not in the head.

Oh and look, theres a megaphone on the ground beside her. Makes you wonder how long she'd been there playing the goody goody two shoes facade.

Maybe it's just me, but this whole video...the way it's edited, the dialog that is heard, the basic reactions of the participants and the extras, etc...seems really really staged.

Like I said, maybe it's just me, but after the first viewing my gut said "fake". If it is totally legit then I think the cop did step way over the line...however I think very few of us know what it feels like to walk close to the line every day. I used to play in a tabletop rpg with a cop (he had his pistol on him even when we were playing...it was very surreal) and he and I had some very frank discussions about his profession. When I first met him I thought "Whoa...this guys a giant dickhead." Once I got to know him, and more importantly once he got to know me my opinion changed quite a bit. We're still friends and I have a mountain of respect for him, and a better picture of what its like to walk in his boots...every day. One of the most memorable things that he said to me went something like this:

"I don't think people out in the general population know how it affects your psychology to constantly be reminded of the math. The math of how we [cops]perceive "you guys" viewing us ends up roughly like this.
-75% of the population thinks we're automatically an asshole and are only around to harass them
-20% genuinely hates us and will do anything to hinder or foil us without actively committing a crime
-3% are just waiting for their chance to shoot us and get away with it
Lastly there are the 2% who seem to appreciate what we do and generally try to be as helpful as possible...and those two percent are almost universally military, ex-military, civil servants of some kind or someone who is already committing some crime that we probably wouldn't give a shit about but they're scared out of their continence that we might catch them.

If the math looked like that on my occupation I might come across as abrasive and callous after a while as well.

>> ^BillOreilly:
that Madonna look-alike got what she had coming to her

I agree with you BillOreilly. I think there are many instances in which striking somebody with a baton while their back is turned is warranted. This is definitely one of those instances. Especially considering the fact that she was female, the fact that she was tiny and the fact that she was peacefully protesting.

Is there a news story to expand/follow up on what's going on here?

i think what's scarier than the act of brutality is how they snatch her away from those filming and interviewing her to silence what she has to say.

You can't say that they dragged her away to silence her.
The only thing we know from this video is that the LEO used way too much force.

>> ^MarineGunrock:
^You need to lurk more.
BillO's comments are generally satire or just not serious.

Well then I hope he doesn't pull a muscle straddling that fence.

>> ^rottenseed:
>> ^BillOreilly:
that Madonna look-alike got what she had coming to her

I agree with you BillOreilly. I think there are many instances in which striking somebody with a baton while their back is turned is warranted. This is definitely one of those instances. Especially considering the fact that she was female, the fact that she was tiny and the fact that she was peacefully protesting.


Her back wasn't turned, she rolled over while on the ground. She saw what was coming. Again, I'm not saying she deserved it in any way, but the cop doesn't deserve to have false information spread about what he did. Nobody would.

I'm downvoting this on principle. It was staged by the protestors. They were hoping shit like this would happen. I think they heckled, jeered, and provoked the cop. I think he just proved himself to be human, and maybe probably not up to the crowd/riot control part of the job.

The video is far too edited to tell the whole story.

Code Pink is a communist front? Uh, you know we sorta got over that whole OMFG WTF COMMUNIST H4X!1! shit in the 1950's. Seriously, check a calendar -- it's 2008, buddy! The future's here! We got computers and shit. Dude, we even got COLOR TV! How cool is that? Come and join us in the future!

^ rofl


Payback:
I'm downvoting this on principle. It was staged by the protestors. They were hoping shit like this would happen. I think they heckled, jeered, and provoked the cop. I think he just proved himself to be human, and maybe probably not up to the crowd/riot control part of the job.

The video is far too edited to tell the whole story.

Protest "staged" by protestors? Must engage brain before posting.

I'll even ignore that and still slap you back down:
He proved himself to be cretin is more accurate. If this was on the street where a 16 stone hillbilly had just clotheslined a 7 stone girly girl, all you 'omg perspective' fuckwits would be condemning the bastard for hitting a woman. Would "heckling and jeering" be reasonable cause for a hillbilly to smash a woman in the face? Yes you say? Well then my next question is this; are you a hillbilly with an annoying wife?

Even more so for police.. to them, they're the men and everyone else is a woman - there are very very very few excuses to hit them.

I will repeat this:

Read my long comment.

Under no circumstances are you to harm a private citizen.

The force continuum:
1. Politley ask them to do something.
2. Order them.
3. soft physical force (touch, grab arm) - arrest begins
4. hard physical force (body grab, restraining) - detaining begins - do best not to injure.
5. Lethal Force - Only in dire emergencies: Defined as Life Threatening.

He should have used soft physical force, as they did when they arrested her.

He assaulted a private citizen on public property and should be punished for such.

Standard? When I worked the crowds there was no standard push. It was order them to leave or arrest them. There was no pushing, macing, or tazering. Just a good snatch and grab.

Just calmly walk up with a smile and hold your hand out, they will instinctively hold their hand out. Cuff them read them their rights and take them to a place where they an cool off.

Generally done with the baton at mid chest height? That's lethal force, targeting the heart. It is done when it needs to be, with the round edge of the baton(just like the officer did), never the point.

Simply should have just arrested her, do not mace. Just arrest, simple and easy.

>> ^McFarQue:
Protesters piss me off.
More so the confrontational ones that just have to be at the front of the line.
Also, that wasn't a head shot, it was a standard forward push used to force a crowd backwards. Generally however, it's done with the end of the baton at mid chest height. That was a little high, but still not in the head.
Oh and look, theres a megaphone on the ground beside her. Makes you wonder how long she'd been there playing the goody goody two shoes facade.



To erimus:

All the more reason to try and be a good cup, not a storm trooper. Why is that a stereotype? Because they never show when a cop is punished, they only show that he got his gun taken away and he is on a desk job. Or administrative leave.

Simple solution if you are a cop and in a situation like this do not act like an ass or a bad mamajama. Just smile and arrest them for disobeying an officer of the law. Simple and clean.

The less authority looks like gestapo the better.

after reading most of the comments (it's late and i have work tomorrow. someone's gotta test drive the go-carts.), without saying anything against code pink, and without justifying the police officer's actions, any girl that screams anything mean or provocative in my face is a bitch. if i did something and a girl (or even boy) shouted in my face either "do" or "dont fuckin do it again!" you bet your ass i'm calling them a bitch. call me traditional, but i hate when people use that language. the f-bomb used to mean something. nowadays it's thrown around so much it has no flavor left.

What happened before.
http://www.videosift.com/video/What-happened-before-Code-Pink-was-Hit-Here-it-is#comment-502018

I'm satisfied she didn't do anything to deserve THAT level of violence now. This video was too short.



ps. danny, tell you what, if you can make an argument for your OPINION without insulting me directly, then you can post, otherwise you're just a troll. The "stone" weight comment seems to say you're of European descent, but man, you have the hick-boy DEEP SOUTH style of debate down pat.

smack a bitch up = 5000 pig points

That new video was really disappointing. It doesn't shed any new light on this as far as I can see.

Let me state right out that while this issue disturbs me, I have no intention of taking any action on it. That leads me to wonder, how many of the outraged have actually done something about how they feel?