That's a fun conclusion he comes to.

Logic. I love it.
One can use nearly the same argument using patriotism instead of religion. It goes like this...if you believe the USA is the best country to live in and most of Africa is torturously bad, then the net effect of slavery is positive (at least for the descendants of the slaves). Without "hell" as the only alternative to forced conversion through slavery, the patriotic argument falls a little flatter but still has a point to make.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not making that argument, I think it ignores most of the problems with slavery in favor of over simplification (and ignores all those slaves that didn't survive to be converted or have converted children). I'm simply stating that others could make that argument. They are both just 'ends justify the means' arguments, which I usually disagree with.

I've often wondered why African Americans seem to have ignored or forgotten this aspect of their ancestors enslavement.

Religion is a helluva drug.

Slavery is a common back in the day of old and still continues today. Luckily the Republicans stopped the Democrats from continuing this abomination.

I agree with the concept here, but I think he is overstating it a bit. Actively selling out your own people/family while slavery was actively occurring is rather worse than forgetting (or never learning) that your religion was used as a tenuous justification for slavery many many generations ago.

On the other hand, a more contemporary spinoff of this that lends further weight to the argument can be found in the widespread apprehension amongst whites back in the 60's and 70's that all or most of the African American population would convert to Islam. A lot of writings by prominent white people of that era show just how terrifying that prospect was for them, and many candidly justified that fear by saying that it would reduce or eliminate the level of control that whites had over the black population. Pretty disgusting stuff to read from a modern point of view.

Actually, I'm fairly surprised that wave petered out as quickly as it did. Malcolm X, Muhammad Ali, and others brought the trend of blacks converting to Islam into national attention; but it didn't gain as much traction as many whites of the time feared. It would be interesting to see a study into the whys of that -- my best (yet unfortunately rather stereotype-based) guess is that many single-parent or head-of-household African American mothers were reluctant to let their sons convert from their family's traditional Christian upbringing and suppressed or quashed a lot of the momentum of the movement in its early stages.

I got yelled at by a black person for saying something like this. He was right though: I'm just a stupid American white boy. My grandpappy was dumb, my daddy been dumb and so I am done dumber than dumb. Ignorant actually.

But I don't worship no GOD, so at least I got that goin for me. Hell. I got that going for me.

But if there is no hell then it don't matter anyhow We're all biological machines without a destiny, just flapping our various flaps; the constant filibuster on happiness.

slavery is still alive and well; it's now called the american prison system

and being a black christian doesn't qualify you as an uncle tom. it only means u got duped like most everyone else

Except it costs us now, instead of making our nation rich (it does make certain people rich, but those are few and far between,) and it is voluntary to a certain extent. Yes, I agree the prison and justice system is racist. Wrote many papers on the subject. But it is so only because so many people give up their rights upon doing dumb shit...and then cannot advocate.

I mean what can you do when even black judges sentence black youths more harshly than whites? Madness...

@MilkmanDan-Pretty sure the most effective squelching of the rise of the Nation of Islam and the push for conversion from the slave-master's religion was achieved by the CIA, (insert covertly shadowed organizations within the labyrinth here) pumping high-grade opiates into the ghettos of all major United States cities-Fast-forward to 1980, and crack cocaine takes what's left of a effectual black population on a path to self-actualization down the road leading right back to the master's plantation.

That the black activism of the 60's scared the holy shit outta the control apparatus is best evidenced in the assassination of MLK, Malcolm X, (many, many others) and the string of cocksuckers disguised as presidents to follow Eisenhower, a legacy which continues to become more farcical with each movement of the second-hand on yer grandpa's pocket-watch.

not true and you know it.

even the RNC chair admitted and apologized for using the Southern Strategy, appealing to racists to boost their vote.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-07-14-GOP-racial-politics_x.htm?POE=NEWISVA

Every time you keep trying to spew your racist lies, I'll shut you down

You need to learn how to read a story. that is not what it said or implied.

The Republican party can only tale a back seat to Democrats on playing the race card.

Your 2005 article indicates:
"Republican National Committee Chairman Ken Mehlman apologized to one of the nation's largest black civil rights groups Thursday, saying Republicans had not done enough to court blacks in the past and had exploited racial strife to court white voters, particularly in the South."

Now where did it say Republican party courted racist for their vote. If that was the case They would have gotten Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson to join the Republican.

As you said "appealing to racists to boost their vote" and exploited racial strife are not the same.

The article went on to say:
"Some Republicans gave up on winning the African-American vote, looking the other way or trying to benefit politically from racial polarization," Mehlman said at the annual convention of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People. "I am here today as the Republican chairman to tell you we were wrong."

The root of the Southern Strategy"
"Mehlman's apology to the NAACP at the group's convention in Milwaukee marked the first time a top Republican Party leader has denounced the so-called Southern Strategy employed by Richard Nixon and other Republicans to peel away white voters in what was then the heavily Democratic South. Beginning in the mid-1960s, Republicans encouraged disaffected Southern white voters to vote Republican by blaming pro-civil rights Democrats for racial unrest and other racial problems.



To sum this up: Nixon Blamed Democrats for the racial mess of the mid late 60's in order to pull some white voters to switch from Democrat to Republican in order to gain votes.

And for that you call Republican Raciest??? Don't you really mean Democrats ?

After all Democrats were the south. Democrats kept the plantations. Democrats wanted to keep the salve system in place. Democrats started the KKK to keep blacks and whites from voting Republican.


I am sorry that if for some small amount to years that Republicans used race/ race baiting/ raciest to gain more Republican white votes is it is nothing to what Democrats have done. AT least they did not whip/ chain/ rape/ murder/ or lynch any one to gain or keep their vote.

Its true and YOU know it.

hrm..and where are all the republicans...now? That's right in the south.

Hrm...was there some sort of massive migration? Did all the democrats flee the south and did all the republicans replace them?

hrm...doesn't seem to be any massive population change. Which means, you're full of shit as usual.

Dems/Reps flipped in the sixties. The Republican party of Lincoln's time that you have fantasies about doesn't exist anymore. It's a little thing called History and fact.

Your racism is well documented on the sift dummy, you can't erase your post history.

Wow, you really are the poster child for the low information voter, nothing in your drivel disproves my claims.

Take a look at http://www.270towin.com/

start going back through each of the elections, you'll notice that with very few exceptions, the south is always red.

That is until say...oh...1960. Hrm, I wonder what sort of racial event happened around that time...hrmmmmmm.

From: http://www.politifact.com/virginia/statements/2013/jun/10/stephen-martin/state-sen-stephen-martin-says-democratic-party-cre/

"Martin (Virginia State Sen. Stephen Martin) said the KKK was created by the Democratic Party. He acknowledged he was wrong.

Historians say the KKK consisted of a group of Southern whites after the Civil War who were Democrats. But there’s no evidence the KKK was created by their political party.

It should also be noted that the anti-black Democratic Party of the 1860s and 1870s bears no similarity to the party of today."

Hrm, that's two Republicans now that have admitted they were wrong in regards to claims you also are making.

Do yourself a favor bob, and do some of them book learn'ns You've got a lot of catching up to do if you want to join this century.