Bill O'Reilly amazed that Black restaurant is civilized

Billy boy "couldn't get over the fact that there was no difference between Sylvia's restaurant and any other restaurant in New York City. I mean, it was exactly the same, even though it's run by blacks, primarily black patronship." O'Reilly added: "There wasn't one person in Sylvia's who was screaming, 'M-Fer, I want more iced tea.' "
Kreegathsays...

A seemingly prejudiced old man realizes one of his prejudices is unfounded and shares his revelation on air in hopes of helping to shoot down the preconception in others. Then, he gets purposely misinterpreted and attacked for mentioning the prejudice and how it was wrong, how will that help do anything but create animosity and even more intolerance?

choggiesays...

Media Matters and organizations like it do more harm than good, if fact, "good" is a meaningless idea for these whores of their backers.(Soros)-Just like Bill O-I see nothing but two diversions, one in the form of a loud, obnoxious idiot white man, and the other a group of agenda-oriented, angry, unactualized white folks, being used as prawns.....both are poison.
Every one of George's little store fronts on the internet, have the same smell of subterfuge, bastardization of semantics, and unconsciousness....

dgandhisays...

He said, in effect, that he expects any place run, or patronized by black people to be loud, obnoxious, uncivilized, and the speech of the people there to be rude and laced with profanity.

Is he a racist? Sure, he has shown himself to be one on many occasions, this is simply one more example of how far he has his head up his ass.

CaptWillardsays...

>> ^Kreegath:
A seemingly prejudiced old man realizes one of his prejudices is unfounded and shares his revelation on air in hopes of helping to shoot down the preconception in others. Then, he gets purposely misinterpreted and attacked for mentioning the prejudice and how it was wrong, how will that help do anything but create animosity and even more intolerance?

Now I hope I don't get "purposely misinterpreted", but I'm really surprised when ANY white person can actually dance, or doesn't buy clothes from L.L. Bean, or aren't secretly racist. It's also surprising to me that white folks don't spontaneously form lynch mobs when I walk through their neighborhoods, or rush out to bring their children indoors and then call the cops.

For saying this to the world I deserve respect, not derision, because I am sharing my ridiculous preconceptions with others. Someone give me a Nobel prize already.

RedSkysays...

He deserves neither respect nor derision, it was simply an innocuous comment that he was revising his preconceptions. There's just no denying that a significant proportion of the white older generation who grew up throughout the period of black discrimination and segregation have been conditioned into such mindsets. I really think the distinction needs to be made here between racist intent and revised benign ignorance. There was nothing landmark about what he said but there is no reason that admitting your prior ignorance should get you lambasted.

Rottysays...

Redsky,

You are forgetting that this site is fueled by leftist hatred and that their members get to make, change, break or ignore the rules as they see fit.

dystopianfuturetodaysays...

This is just a misunderstanding, you see, in far-right-ese, the word 'hatred' roughly translates to 'criticism' and/or 'critical thinking'. Critical thinking is generally discouraged in far-right culture, so Rotty is merely repeating what he's been taught here.

Tofumarsays...

"Siftbot is powered by aborted fetuses."

In fairness, a full 17.2% of our energy here comes from the steam we generate by burning bibles and copies of the U.S. constitution. We also gather about 9% from the energy released when we break up heterosexual marriages--a process we call "marital fission."

Raigensays...

>> ^Tofumar:
"Siftbot is powered by aborted fetuses."
In fairness, a full 17.2% of our energy here comes from the steam we generate by burning bibles and copies of the U.S. constitution. We also gather about 9% from the energy released when we break up heterosexual marriages--a process we call "marital fission."


I thought it was the Republican Righties that did that. You know, with the whole "undeclared war" they're having a hootin', hollarin' old time with over there.

my15minutessays...

^ if you're a libertarian?

you'd be the first i recall meeting, that used the term "leftist".
i am a libertarian. socially liberal, fiscally conservative.

so, rotty, what does the defending of pushy, obnoxious racists have to do with libertarianism?

8422says...

uhh i have lived in the US for most of my life i have lived in the north and the deep south of the US and seen some really racist people but i have never heard the term "black restaurant" or "white restaurant" thats really funny to me lol.. when i first heard about this i didnt know what they meant by a "black restaurant"

oh a btw i dont think what bill o reilly said was that wrong it was ignorant. (how can you give opinions about the world on a "news" organization and be so detached from reality) ???

rottenseedsays...

>> ^Rotty:
What does the dislike of pushy, obnoxious canadians have to do with the right?
BTW, I vote libertarian.

What does the dislike of rap-bumping, fried-chicken-lovin' black people have to do with racism?
BTW, I drink malt liquor

Hmmm...kinda makes you think...

jmzerosays...

Was it that ridiculous for him to expect this restaurant to be a little different? Not like "the waiters are going to swear at you and everyone will breakdance" but "a different atmosphere or vibe or food or something".

When I go to a restaurant in a primarily Indian neighbourhood (even if it's not an "Indian restaurant") all sorts of things are different - the tables, the waiters, the course of the meal, the music, the atmosphere. Obviously the food. It's not shocking that different cultural and ethnic groups routinely like things different ways and this shows up in how a restaurant operates.

I don't think it's horribly racist to imagine that black people might like certain things different in a restaurant in a black neighborhood patronized primarily by black people. In fact, I think it'd be a bit racist to go into a black restaurant expecting them to run everything exactly the same.

Honestly, I think it is a bit interesting and surprising that there wasn't differences that a guy like Bill would have noticed.

And sure, this is giving Bill the benefit of some doubt, but watching his remarks a few times this does even seem to be the sense he's trying to get at. That said, he should be smart enough to know how this is going to sound and not say it.

aaronfrsays...

I remember seeing this a few months ago and being upset by the blatant racism I heard in O'Reilly's words. But, I think I have a slightly different perspective this time around (mostly because of Obama's 'More Perfect Union' speech).

Yeah sure, it was a statement that revealed the way O'Reilly sees black people, but it was more than that. In his own way, he was talking about how he didn't see the stereotypes that his mind was conditioned to expect. It was painful to hear those things said but it was also a chance for a more open conversation about racism because it was a searingly honest appraisal of Bill-O's beliefs.

While I would have advocated for all the criticism and condemnation in the world when I first saw this, I can see now how that is just a reactionary and defensive position to take. And, ultimately, a response such as that is in no way productive or enlightening. To really tackle an issue as large as race in America is, you have to actively engage with it and talk about it.

joedirtsays...

don't bother with rotty. You can dig through his past comments but he is nothing more than a wingnut troll that likes to feel victimized by independent thinking. In an effort to feel more justified he claims to be libertarian, but name one libertarian that approves of Bush's dryhumping the Constitution. (You know where the lib in liberal and libertarian come from???) So rotty, admit you are a liberal and you can join our cumbaya circle.

choggiesays...

Know what's the really sad state of affairs here, beyond Bill O's bullshit???
The network he works for is owned by a Rupert, the same ilk as a Turner, the same puppets who work for the common good of the herders-those who would that all media be controlled and manipulated for their personal gain-Their effectiveness is unquestionable.....look at this meaningless thread...
Racism is a goddamn bitch for some folks, and dualistic fools that most are, they can't seem to stop playing the either-or game they are trained so effectively for....diversion, all.

How about, "Fuck these morons!" get em all off the air, they insult and stupefy-the FCC should be utterly annihilated, and humans should be instructed on how to use their brains for crissakes...how to derive meaning from the printed or spoken word, beyond the simplistic exercise in believing based on mere words......
"It's the perpetuation of the two party system
where image takes precedence over wisdom
Where sound bite politics are served to
the fastfood culture

Where straight teeth in your mouth
are more important than the words
that come out of it..."
-Franti

Oatmealsays...

Just picture Samuel L. Jackson yelling: "Motherfucker, I want more Iced Tea!". You'd be hard pressed to think of a cooler way to ask for a drink refill.

10290says...

Where is the comment about him being surprised the resturant is civilized? OH THATS RIGHT, you just MADE THAT UP for your headline to attract hits and show your obvious bias here. Is that not the same kind of BIAS you wackjobs seem to hate Bill O'Reilly for? Hhahaa pot meet kettle you stupid idiots.

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