On the business of NSFW

Just a couple of comments from ole residue here. With the advent of the thumbnail invocation, I've noticed a lot more boob-thumbnails recently. While I know that's the selling point for several videos, can we maybe limit that a little? I don't want to have to filter NSFW tagged videos at home or at work since a lot are tagged for language, which isn't a problem for me at work. Boobs are though, and are an issue if I want to show someone something on the sift, but now have to worry that a new video will be posted with a thumb of hand-warmers front and center. I know the sift is a free society and we can do whatever we want, but do we really NEED nudity thumbs all over the front page? It makes it hard to present material here to more sensitive people (ie. grandma). Maybe we just need a nudity tag, then we can filter out videos that way?

Also, it would be handy to have a NSFW tag show up for videos in the "top new videos by vote" category on the right. I'm sometimes not sure if I can get away with watching one at work since there's no tag on there... For example, the currently-in-the-list "How to sell car insurance in Romania."
gwiz665 says...

Hmm, I'm pretty sure that the small thumbnails for nsfw pictures is hidden by default, aren't they for bigger ones?

Incidentally, I thank myself for getting them that way, since I posted this lovely piece with the best thumbnail ever.
http://videosift.com/video/The-ins-and-outs-of-a-Vagina
(Do not click at work!)

In any case it would be prudent to have a "SFW-ize my sift" option in your profile, so the thumbnails for nsfw are disabled and the standard siftbot is shown. Maybe a trenchcoat&sunglasses wearing flasher siftbot.

campionidelmondo says...

I was gonna put thumbnails of my girly ankles on other people's videos, so I think we're all good.

>> ^residue:

male or female?
male might get her a little randy. Wait, keep in mind you can't use the sift to promote your own videos!
>> ^campionidelmondo:
I was gonna add some more custom thumbnails, but now I'm not sure anymore. What's your grandma's stance on uncovered ankles?


residue says...

This is acceptable


>> ^campionidelmondo:



I was gonna put thumbnails of my girly ankles on other people's videos, so I think we're all good.


No, the larger thumbs aren't covered by the NSFW thing. I have seen that thumb before, but rarely. I'm not sure what triggers the replacement


>> ^gwiz665:

Hmm, I'm pretty sure that the small thumbnails for nsfw pictures is hidden by default, aren't they for bigger ones?
Incidentally, I thank myself for getting them that way, since I posted this lovely piece with the best thumbnail ever.
http://videosift.com/video/The-ins-and-outs-of-a-Vagina
(Do not click at work!)
In any case it would be prudent to have a "SFW-ize my sift" option in your profile, so the thumbnails for nsfw are disabled and the standard siftbot is shown. Maybe a trenchcoat&sunglasses wearing flasher siftbot.

BoneRemake says...

Where you posting this to get some form of support ? seems this entire thing could of been kept to a simple message to the sift gods. I think its ridiculous and laughable myself. I simply see no reason to make this a sift talk issue unless the only obvious reason to me as explained at the beginning my my paragraph.


*spits in bucket

residue says...

I honestly thought it might have warranted discussion and it was actually gwiz that suggested a "SFW" version of the sift without using any filters to completely remove content, so in that regard, the sift talk was a success. With only a few new sift talks a week I don't see why you're upset.

>> ^BoneRemake:

Where you posting this to get some form of support ? seems this entire thing could of been kept to a simple message to the sift gods. I think its ridiculous and laughable myself. I simply see no reason to make this a sift talk issue unless the only obvious reason to me as explained at the beginning my my paragraph.

spits in bucket

BoneRemake says...

>> ^residue:

I honestly thought it might have warranted discussion and it was actually gwiz that suggested a "SFW" version of the sift without using any filters to completely remove content, so in that regard, the sift talk was a success. With only a few new sift talks a week I don't see why you're upset.
>> ^BoneRemake:
Where you posting this to get some form of support ? seems this entire thing could of been kept to a simple message to the sift gods. I think its ridiculous and laughable myself. I simply see no reason to make this a sift talk issue unless the only obvious reason to me as explained at the beginning my my paragraph.

spits in bucket



I am not upset, I voiced my thoughts on the matter, I simply do not think it warranted the avenue you took, although you are well entitled to it. I simply meant what I said without any behind the scene meaning. Ya know in ontario you can walk around with your top off if your a woman. That I'd like to see. And good for them, I cringe at how backwards we are about breasts and being "topless", people always revert at some point to "what will we tell the kids " well I think you should tell the kids exactly whats what, talk to children, tits are tits people. Fat people shouldnt be allowed to walk around without a shirt on if we are going to only hold it to females.

residue says...

In general, I agree with your opinion on the naturality of expressing the human body, I just don't want my colleagues at work walking up behind me when there are boobs all over the screen. Same goes with my kids.

As to the location of the discussion, this very discussion is the reason why I puit it in sift talk in the first place. I like talking about this stuff with people. Besides, I feel odd going straight to the top and leaving personal messages to people because I wouldn't presume to know what the sift needs more than they do, so I stick it in here to see what other sifters think about the issue. All communal-like, ya heard?

>> ^BoneRemake:

>> ^residue:
I honestly thought it might have warranted discussion and it was actually gwiz that suggested a "SFW" version of the sift without using any filters to completely remove content, so in that regard, the sift talk was a success. With only a few new sift talks a week I don't see why you're upset.
>> ^BoneRemake:
Where you posting this to get some form of support ? seems this entire thing could of been kept to a simple message to the sift gods. I think its ridiculous and laughable myself. I simply see no reason to make this a sift talk issue unless the only obvious reason to me as explained at the beginning my my paragraph.

spits in bucket


I am not upset, I voiced my thoughts on the matter, I simply do not think it warranted the avenue you took, although you are well entitled to it. I simply meant what I said without any behind the scene meaning. Ya know in ontario you can walk around with your top off if your a woman. That I'd like to see. And good for them, I cringe at how backwards we are about breasts and being "topless", people always revert at some point to "what will we tell the kids " well I think you should tell the kids exactly whats what, talk to children, tits are tits people. Fat people shouldnt be allowed to walk around without a shirt on if we are going to only hold it to females.

MilkmanDan says...

I have thought before that it might be nice to have 2 tiers of NSFW, one for language and one for nudity. I'm all for promoting some discussion and questioning of the USA tendency to be fine with seeing people get shot/disemboweled/whatever yet throwing a hissyfit when a nipple makes an appearance. Which is not to say that I'm against people having the right to see a good disemboweling or set of boobies if they so choose -- I so choose myself from time to time, though usually not at the same time.

However, you have to pick your battles. When nipples would make someone's boss at their workplace go off the deep end, I think it is only courteous to give them some options to avoid that happening. Same goes for language.

Thanks for starting the discussion @residue, and to all the contributors contrary or otherwise, and particularly to @dag for agreeing that some system can be implemented!

vaporlock says...

Some of the ads (here in the Euro zone) have more skin than any thumbnails. Not to discount your point in any way, but realistically there are not many nude thumbnails on the sift. I've rummaged through a thousand videos over the past few weeks and noticed maybe 5 (actually many video titles are probably worse than thumbnails... slippery slope). I think you can filter out NSFW videos in setting as well.

residue says...

>> ^vaporlock:

Some of the ads (here in the Euro zone) have more skin than any thumbnails. Not to discount your point in any way, but realistically there are not many nude thumbnails on the sift. I've rummaged through a thousand videos over the past few weeks and noticed maybe 5 (actually many video titles are probably worse than thumbnails... slippery slope). I think you can filter out NSFW videos in setting as well.


You're right, I just thought that it might turn into more of an issue with the advent of the thumb invocation. Last week I remember there being a day with two three nude thumbs on the front page. I haven't seen any nudity in ads though. man, Europeans get all the luck

vaporlock says...

Not really nudity. Just 10 or so scantly clad German girls. Apparently looking for a date. >> ^residue:

>> ^vaporlock:
Some of the ads (here in the Euro zone) have more skin than any thumbnails.

You're right, I just thought that it might turn into more of an issue with the advent of the thumb invocation. Last week I remember there being a day with two three nude thumbs on the front page. I haven't seen any nudity in ads though. man, Europeans get all the luck

residue says...

Can you give them my number?

>> ^vaporlock:

Not really nudity. Just 10 or so scantly clad German girls. Apparently looking for a date. >> ^residue:
>> ^vaporlock:
Some of the ads (here in the Euro zone) have more skin than any thumbnails.

You're right, I just thought that it might turn into more of an issue with the advent of the thumb invocation. Last week I remember there being a day with two three nude thumbs on the front page. I haven't seen any nudity in ads though. man, Europeans get all the luck


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