I am so fucking angry

And sad. And relieved that everyone I know is safe. And griefstricken on behalf of all my fellow norwegians who can't say the same. And resolved to make sure Norway stays an open and democratic community despite this, no, especially because of this episode. 

Since I live in Germany at the moment I have to follow the events via the internet, but it seems that all of Norway has the same resolve as me, for which I am glad. I know several people who were just a couple of hundred meters from the bomb when it went off, and it's surreal to read about their experiences. 

This is what comes when blind ideology becomes more important than fellow human beings. Fuck you, Anders Behring Breivik, for imagining that your contrived ideas that you copied off radical blogs were somehow more noble and important than the lives of innocent youths. Your wish came true. The whole world now knows about your stupid manifesto. And everyone will see it for the piece of crap it is.  

Ornthoron says...

>> ^GeeSussFreeK:

I heard the max you can lock someone up over there is like 20 years or something? Any truth to that, and any chance this guy will be the exception to such a condition?


The maximum penalty in Norway is 21 years. Earlier this year, long before this terrible event, there was talk of increasing the limit to thirty something. But in extreme cases the law opens up for keeping people in custody for longer, even for life, if they are deemed a danger to society.

I am strongly against making any exceptions even for an isolated case like this, and I believe most of Norway is against it too. To let a terrorist subvert the justice system would be a terrible mistake, since it puts the whole system into question. If one makes exceptions for one guy, who's to say there will not be exceptions for others as well in the future? And in any case, revenge is a terrible foundation for a judicial system.

I believe the worst punishment he can get will be to live his actions when he grows older in prison and has time to think about his actions and see that they had no effect on our society.

gwiz665 says...

@Ornthoron I would think that Norway, like Denmark, can give someone a "forvaringsdom", if they're insane, which means they will be locked up in a mental institution indefinitely. We have a maximum jail penalty too, but you're not technically in jail with that kind of sentence.

I also agree, it would be a damn shame to throw out all sense of law for the sake of one madman.

Boise_Lib says...

@Ornthoron I too am angry and sad.

But the whole world should be proud of your country for not giving in to hate and anger. The response of More Democracy will shine through the ages as one of the bravest and most honorable responses to terrorism that has ever been seen.

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