▶ Attorney shuts down police stop of black handyman

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The video, which was posted online by the Washington Post, shows white attorney Jody Westby coming to the aid of black handyman Dennis Stucky, who has been stopped by two officers and is sitting on a curb in the upscale Foxhall Crescent neighborhood.

Westby asks the officers – one standing near the curb and another sitting in a patrol car — why Stucky has been stopped, and they tell her he’s suspected in a burglary.

The attorney, who had asked her housekeeper to record the incident on a cell phone, demands to know which address the call came from, and she approaches the cruiser to verify the information.

The officer in the car tells her the address, and Westby determines the call was for a nearby subdivision.

The attorney then scolds the officers for harassing Stucky and orders them to leave her neighborhood, pointing her finger and gesturing at the officer in the patrol car.

Police said the video showed no misconduct, but Westby said they behaved shamefully, saying the interaction would not likely have played out the same way in a poor, black neighborhood.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/10/attorney-shuts-down-police-stop-of-black-handyman-now-please-leave-our-neighborhood/
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lantern53says...

What a bitch, know-it-all lawyer. She's obviously anti-cop. How does she know what the police are doing? She just jumps right in the middle of things, assuming she knows what a burglary suspect looks like, that the police are 'acting stupidly' gee where have I heard that before? She must takes her cues from the Duffer-in-chief.

She asked where the call came from...it came from another neighborhood. Does she know what time the burglary occurred? A person could come home, find a break-in, walk to the neighbor and say, hey did you see anyone? Yeah, i saw a black guy in front of your house 15 minutes ago. A person can walk quite a distance in 15 minutes.

I also didn't see the cops even touch this guy. Also, both officers appeared to be black, so they can't be racist, right? Only white cops are racist.

Yeah, this wonderful lady hates cops.

SFOGuysays...

She's the head of a legal non-profit to my recollection. She knows her rights and the handyman's rights under the law; she knows what the correct restrictions should be on the police powers. She knows that she can represent those rights and (breathlessly) exercise white privilege for good here (balancing her position as a wealthy white woman against the implicit coercive powers of the police).

I have to say I was a fan.

lucky760says...

Yeah, man. Right on! What a horrible, stupid "woman" to stick up for an innocent elderly man she's known for decades who's being falsely suspected and made to sit on the sidewalk.

Of course if a woman who lives there comes out to tell the officer the guy's done nothing wrong and is not whoever they're looking for, their response should be to stay the course and keep spending time working on him anyway just to avoid admitting they made a mistake.

That's a much better course of action than for them to simply walk away to search for the actual suspect.

That dumb bitch lawyer should have just sat back with her mouth shut to let the cops spend more time harassing the guy despite her knowing he's not who they're looking for and innocent of any wrongdoing. That would have been a much better tactic on her part and proved she's no bitch.

lantern53said:

What a bitch, know-it-all lawyer.

newtboysays...

OMFG! You are sounding completely insane.
She knew what the police were doing because she ASKED them and they TOLD her...duh.
She knew that the man they accosted WASN'T a burglary suspect, he was her gardener that had been at her home the entire time working. The idiot cops didn't want to hear it and just saw 'black man in white neighborhood=dangerous criminal' and did their thing, putting him on the ground and preparing to take him away. Fortunately for him his employee was both there and a lawyer who knows how to not be BLUFFED out of her or her clients rights by liars (cops).
The cops WERE acting stupidly, racist, and dishonestly...proven because they clearly had the wrong person.
If the call came from another neighborhood long enough ago that the perp may be in another neighborhood (in any direction), there's no way in hell they could honestly think they could find the perp, they just went after people that 'looked wrong' to them. (by which I mean being black)
I also note the arresting officer can't even say what the reported crime was, or where it occurred, so how does she explain her theory that it was the gardener, who was working when they found him? She had to wait for the driver to answer those questions.
They put him on the ground before the video starts.
Well, it's becoming fairly obvious that most white cops ARE racist, but no, racism is an equal opportunity evil perpetrated by all races.
No one (who isn't a cop) can blame this lady, or this man for 'hating cops', cops have lied to and about them in order to trick/lie/bluff him into jail for who knows how long.

I hope your family does NOT have the good fortune to have a thinking lawyer present when they are arrested by an angry black officer for being within 4 blocks of a burglary that happened yesterday...(and being white near a black neighborhood to boot!), and your home is taken by civil forfeiture because they may have used it to store the stolen property (not that they need to find any)....maybe then you can see the error of your position....or maybe not.
Oh man, I feel that this is one of your biggest fails yet. You look like a complete dangerous nutball with that comment. It would be hilariously laughable if you didn't have the power to put people in jail. Because you claim that you do hold that authority, it's terrifying to hear your positions, your clear racism, your constant defense of clearly criminal cops, and your 'Us VS citizens' mentality you display constantly....yet you still can't understand why citizens might feel it's 'us VS cops'. Just plain old WOW man.

lantern53said:

What a bitch, know-it-all lawyer. She's obviously anti-cop. How does she know what the police are doing? She just jumps right in the middle of things, assuming she knows what a burglary suspect looks like, that the police are 'acting stupidly' gee where have I heard that before? She must takes her cues from the Duffer-in-chief.

She asked where the call came from...it came from another neighborhood. Does she know what time the burglary occurred? A person could come home, find a break-in, walk to the neighbor and say, hey did you see anyone? Yeah, i saw a black guy in front of your house 15 minutes ago. A person can walk quite a distance in 15 minutes.

I also didn't see the cops even touch this guy. Also, both officers appeared to be black, so they can't be racist, right? Only white cops are racist.

Yeah, this wonderful lady hates cops.

VoodooVsays...

racist, misogynistic, and trolling all in one post.

so very efficient.

lantern53said:

What a bitch, know-it-all lawyer. She's obviously anti-cop. How does she know what the police are doing? She just jumps right in the middle of things, assuming she knows what a burglary suspect looks like, that the police are 'acting stupidly' gee where have I heard that before? She must takes her cues from the Duffer-in-chief.

She asked where the call came from...it came from another neighborhood. Does she know what time the burglary occurred? A person could come home, find a break-in, walk to the neighbor and say, hey did you see anyone? Yeah, i saw a black guy in front of your house 15 minutes ago. A person can walk quite a distance in 15 minutes.

I also didn't see the cops even touch this guy. Also, both officers appeared to be black, so they can't be racist, right? Only white cops are racist.

Yeah, this wonderful lady hates cops.

VoodooVsays...

So much for being on ignore.

You mean beside your long documented history of saying blatantly racist things?

you made a judgement about the cops based on nothing but their race. the literal definition of racism. The fact that you STILL don't get this after all this time further demonstrates your ignorance.

Funny that you don't deny the misogyny and trolling.

Crash and burn lantern...crash and burn....again.

lantern53said:

Where did you get that I was 'racist'? What did I say exactly that led you to that ridiculous conclusion?

lantern53says...

Well, it's rather difficult to address so many false assumptions at one time, so I'll deal with your first one, that she knew they weren't dealing with a burglary suspect.

Is the woman psychic? Does she know what he's been doing? Has a burglary suspect ever worked in a domestic situation?

No, you can't answer that one question with an affirmative response.

The fail is in your court.

00Scud00says...

The woman clearly knew the man, for 30 years or so from the sound of it. Do you know these people? Do you live in this neighborhood? If the answer is no, then it sounds like you're the one making most of the assumptions.
BAM! back in your court.

lantern53said:

Well, it's rather difficult to address so many false assumptions at one time, so I'll deal with your first one, that she knew they weren't dealing with a burglary suspect.

Is the woman psychic? Does she know what he's been doing? Has a burglary suspect ever worked in a domestic situation?

No, you can't answer that one question with an affirmative response.

The fail is in your court.

VoodooVsays...

You see, it's not just me. you can pretend to live in your fantasy world all you like, but numerous people have already responded and called you out long before I ever came on the scene.

You're wrong. you always have been wrong. You're a racist, you think women are second class citizens, and you're a homophobe. your comment history clearly backs this up. No more hiding Lantern.

You're scared little boy

And you're done.

lantern53said:

Well, it's rather difficult to address so many false assumptions at one time, so I'll deal with your first one, that she knew they weren't dealing with a burglary suspect.

Is the woman psychic? Does she know what he's been doing? Has a burglary suspect ever worked in a domestic situation?

No, you can't answer that one question with an affirmative response.

The fail is in your court.

lantern53says...

The bottom line is: the police officers did absolutely nothing wrong. But this lady comes out, she hates cops which tickles your gooseberries and instead of using critical thinking, you let your emotions get the better of you.

Try not to do that, it makes you sound juvenile.

AeroMechanicalsays...

I will agree that the whole thing could have been cleared up more quickly and efficiently if the homeowner had just provided identification showing she lived there and identified the man as her employee.

On the other hand, I can understand why she was upset and wanted to make a point.

I can also feel for the police too because there is a very, very fine line in a situation like this between unjust racial profiling and just looking for a person who seems out of place. In all likelihood, if they were responding to a burglary call in a white neighborhood, all they had was "black male" as a description, maybe also "wearing dark clothing" if they were lucky.

I'm kind of meh on the whole thing, other than the impressive way the woman handled herself and stood up to the police (though... devil's advocate again, that's not so hard when you're a wealthy white resident of a wealthy white neighborhood).

newtboysays...

Did nothing wrong? Debatable.
If, as you theorize, they had a call from blocks away and over 15 min before, and minimal 'race' description, it's wrong to stop ANYONE because the likelihood they'll have the right person is minimal at best, and there IS harm when an elderly man is forced to sit on the sidewalk with cops surrounding him, it's both disrespectful and humiliating to him and possibly physically injurious, and would make it much more difficult for him to get a job with any neighbors that saw it happen...all for nothing.
I would bet this lady does NOT hate cops, but does hate it when her elderly friends are profiled, suspected, accused, and held in a humiliating fashion based on nothing more than skin color (your assessment of their 'description').
Skin color is NOT enough description to EVER stop someone not at the scene, unless the skin color is purple. How many 'people of color' do you think there might be within 15 minutes of any crime scene? Your assessment and theory seems to be it would be proper to stop, search, and question all of them, and let the court figure out which one (if any) is the criminal. You wouldn't think the same if the skin color was 'white'...would you?

lantern53said:

The bottom line is: the police officers did absolutely nothing wrong. But this lady comes out, she hates cops which tickles your gooseberries and instead of using critical thinking, you let your emotions get the better of you.

Try not to do that, it makes you sound juvenile.

lantern53says...

Wow, you would make the worst cop imaginable.

You're all tied up in political correctness.

But...not everyone is cut out for the job.

"Your assessment and theory seems to be it would be proper to stop, search, and question all of them, and let the court figure out which one (if any) is the criminal. You wouldn't think the same if the skin color was 'white'...would you?"

Another childish assumption, and...
Do you throw out the race card every time your ass itches?

Cops don't care what color you are. But if you listen to any (moderate size town) police band, you'll find that the majority of calls for criminal investigation feature young male african-americans.

So if you get a call to look for a male black, it's rather pointless, don't you think, to stop any Howdy-doodie looking cracker ass white boy?

But you sit in your little cubicle, protected by people who would risk their life to protect yours, and view your little videos and you're totally clueless.

Try to be a little more logical and a little less emotional.

Mystic95Zsays...

I'll fix that for you...

The bottom line is: Police officers think they are allways right and do no wrong.

lantern53said:

The bottom line is: the police officers did absolutely nothing wrong. But this lady comes out, she hates cops which tickles your gooseberries and instead of using critical thinking, you let your emotions get the better of you.

Try not to do that, it makes you sound juvenile.

lucky760says...

You should really focus a little more on improving your own critical thinking skills.

She didn't just run outside, nor demonstrate any hatred for cops. She was trying to reason with the first officer who insisted on ignoring her likely solely in the interest of saving face.

It was only after her willful ignorance that the lawyer lady became upset.

Just like your world-class critical thinking skills lead you to believe the cops had a good reason to interrogate the old guy based on him as an individual (and not as just as some black man), you should point your critical thinking in the other direction and determine that the lawyer was upset with the cop as an individual for her specific actions, not just because she's some cop.

With any sliver of critical thinking it's obvious there's no indication the lawyer hates cops, just that she's upset with the actions of this person, who happens to be a cop.

Talk about sounding juvenile.

lantern53said:

The bottom line is: the police officers did absolutely nothing wrong. But this lady comes out, she hates cops which tickles your gooseberries and instead of using critical thinking, you let your emotions get the better of you.

Try not to do that, it makes you sound juvenile.

Mystic95Zsays...

Maybe police officers should be required to have law degrees... Since they seem to know it all... Granted that would just make them flunky lawyers that couldn't make it in the real world.

lantern53said:

No more than you.

lantern53says...

"You're accusing him" no they weren't, they were detaining him for investigation

"You're in the wrong neighborhood" being a lawyer, she knows more about how to do police work than they do

She's interfering where no interference is needed.

But police haters gonna hate.

newtboysays...

Yes, I would make a bad cop. I am NOT the kind of person that enjoys forcefully telling others how to be, how to act, where they can be, nor am I the one to put others in jail for 'no victim' crimes or just for non-compliance with my wishes. I'm CERTANLY not the kind of person that supports people 'on my team' that are disgusting racist criminals...but you are.
Not an assumption, you said it clearly. YOU said he could have gone from one neighborhood to another in 15+min, so it's reasonable to 'detain' him. That MUST mean it's reasonable to detain ANY black man within a 15 minute radius (by car, no one told them he didn't have a car). That's just stupidly insane...it makes ALL black men in a 30 mile diameter 'suspects'. (which seems to be how you see them).
No, YOU throw the race card out every time your ass itches, and I think you must have a rash because it's constant! I throw it right back at you, and you cry foul.
YOU care what color people are, you've made that QUITE clear.

EDIT: It's hilarious that you follow your complaint about someone 'throwing out the race(ism) card" and follow instantly with something racist. You could just as easily say that calls for criminal investigation feature men, the young, the poor, or (my favorite) the religious (check your statistics, nearly 100% of cons consider themselves 'religious', so the next time you have a call, just go to the nearest church and start 'investigating' whomever you find there).

Yes, clearly 'young African Americans' are most often the 'suspects', that does not mean they are most often the perps however.
If you get a call to look for a male black, about a 'crime' that may have happened some time ago, it's rather pointless period. There's no way in hell you could find the right person with that description unless there's still one male black AT THE SCENE of the crime you are investigating, and even then that person could easily be a witness. "male black" is not enough description to make it OK for cops to accost citizens. PERIOD. Just as "male white" would not be.
I would say YOU seem far more clueless than I. You have a myopic viewpoint where cops are ALWAYS in the right, citizens are ALWAYS in the wrong, and black people are ALWAYS suspect and dangerous.
Try to be a little logical at all, and less ridiculous please.

lantern53said:

Wow, you would make the worst cop imaginable.

You're all tied up in political correctness.

But...not everyone is cut out for the job.

"Your assessment and theory seems to be it would be proper to stop, search, and question all of them, and let the court figure out which one (if any) is the criminal. You wouldn't think the same if the skin color was 'white'...would you?"

Another childish assumption, and...
Do you throw out the race card every time your ass itches?

Cops don't care what color you are. But if you listen to any (moderate size town) police band, you'll find that the majority of calls for criminal investigation feature young male african-americans.

So if you get a call to look for a male black, it's rather pointless, don't you think, to stop any Howdy-doodie looking cracker ass white boy?

But you sit in your little cubicle, protected by people who would risk their life to protect yours, and view your little videos and you're totally clueless.

Try to be a little more logical and a little less emotional.

newtboyjokingly says...

How is that different? 'We think you are the perpetrator VS We think you are the perpetrator'. EDIT: If you have no reasonable suspicion to believe he had committed a crime (and 'black man blocks away some time after the fact' is not cause for 'reasonable suspicion') you have no right whatsoever to 'detain' him....and it's wrong and evil to 'bluff' him into thinking you do...even if it may be 'legal'. It's perfectly legal for a person to take upskirt pictures and video of 12 year old girls who sit on steps in public, but still completely wrong and evil. Get it now?
Apparently yes. If the cops think it's right to drive far away from a crime in any random direction and find any random 'black man' to harass, then yes, she clearly knows more about how to do police work than they do...and if you think they're in the right and she's wrong, she clearly knows more about it than you as well.
Interference WAS DEFINATELY needed, proper, helpful, and applaudable.

But hater-police gonna hate.

lantern53said:

"You're accusing him" no they weren't, they were detaining him for investigation

"You're in the wrong neighborhood" being a lawyer, she knows more about how to do police work than they do

She's interfering where no interference is needed.

But police haters gonna hate.

Sagemindsays...

You sir, are being a troll for troll's sake. Please stop.

lantern53said:

What a bitch, know-it-all lawyer. She's obviously anti-cop. How does she know what the police are doing? She just jumps right in the middle of things, assuming she knows what a burglary suspect looks like, that the police are 'acting stupidly' gee where have I heard that before? She must takes her cues from the Duffer-in-chief.

She asked where the call came from...it came from another neighborhood. Does she know what time the burglary occurred? A person could come home, find a break-in, walk to the neighbor and say, hey did you see anyone? Yeah, i saw a black guy in front of your house 15 minutes ago. A person can walk quite a distance in 15 minutes.

I also didn't see the cops even touch this guy. Also, both officers appeared to be black, so they can't be racist, right? Only white cops are racist.

Yeah, this wonderful lady hates cops.

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