Yazidi survivors rescued by helicopter

This really was harrowing to watch, I can only imagine what it was like to be there.
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EMPIREsays...

Fucking Isis man... fucking pieces of shit cowards. These guys are on a Third Reich kind of level, and need to be wiped off the face of this planet

newtboysays...

Whenever I see videos where they're shooting from a helicopter, I wonder why they don't catch their empties. That's a lot of hot brass they're dropping all over, wasting shells and contaminating whatever's below them. Why?
I agree, this reporter both has balls of steel and is obnoxious, but my thought was he could have simply given one of the military a go-pro instead of going with them, and 3 more children (or 2 thin adults) could have been saved.

My_designjokingly says...

Yep, good thing we choose to stay out of this one until now.
Seems like we flipped a coin and said:
"Heads! Nope it's Tails. Well I guess we won't play police today. Tell Isis there's a line in the sand. That should stop them."

bobknight33says...

The other day ISIS grabbed a 5yr old and cut him in half.

Religion of PEACE. Growing by the day. Even in America their flags are flying.

Once they consolidate the middle east the world will bein a heap of hurt.

Sycraftsays...

They don't catch shells because it is just something else to deal with. Military operations cause a lot of waste and contamination (the bullets are lead as an example). It would be superfluous to worry about the casings and just take up more space and crew time.

The reason they take reporters is because it helps the public see and support what is going on. Having public support behind these sort of things is important. Also most western nations have pretty strong freedom of the press rules.

Yes, he took up some space, but it isn't like that is the only helicopter they sent. This isn't a case of "one chopper and then the rest of you are screwed." They are sending more flights. That same chopper probably went back, after refueling and rearming, for that matter.

newtboysaid:

Whenever I see videos where they're shooting from a helicopter, I wonder why they don't catch their empties. That's a lot of hot brass they're dropping all over, wasting shells and contaminating whatever's below them. Why?
I agree, this reporter both has balls of steel and is obnoxious, but my thought was he could have simply given one of the military a go-pro instead of going with them, and 3 more children (or 2 thin adults) could have been saved.

daconic1says...

Great justification for ISIS.

Or is it if no one is picking on the Israelies you feel left out? How come one groups violence can be justified by the other ?

9547bissaid:

Well, since you support murdering children, you will feel right at home.

newtboysays...

Well, maybe that sentiment is 'popular' because turn about is fair play....or because most people believe in an eye for an eye (unless it's their enemy that lost the first eye, then suddenly that idea is bad).
These theories are popular because they excuse inexcusable retaliatory behavior as long as you convince yourself you were slighted first, and work great for those with no self examination skills.

daconic1said:

Great justification for ISIS.

Or is it if no one is picking on the Israelies you feel left out? How come one groups violence can be justified by the other ?

newtboysays...

It just seems to me that this is myopic, short term thinking (by the military, not you) that actually hurts their operational effectiveness by
1)being wasteful when a simple box to catch empties could be designed to be failsafe, light, and maybe even function as 'armor' when full and flotation when empty. Also (and far more important to the military), every dollar saved by 'recycling' the brass is a dollar that could be spent on more and/or better equipment for soldiers.
and 2)creating hostility towards your forces in those that may have been neutral or even on your side, before their child was burned over 90% of their body by the shells falling out of the chopper, or their straw home burned down, or their fields/rice patties/hog pens are now full of burnt 'propellant' (not always gunpowder, and often more contaminating than gunpowder) and hot brass, ruining or contaminating them permanently when it could be prevented so easily. They have put big money into trying to create a less toxic 'bullet' out of carbon/other exotics, knowing it's an issue world wide. (I don't know how far that's gone yet.) I can't understand why they would ignore the other part of the bullet?

I see your point about 'informing' the public, but that could be done just as easily and maybe better with a go-pro (or a few) and commentary, no?
True enough, it may not have been the only escape chopper or trip, but make no mistake there was a HUGE shortage of escape methods, not everyone got a ride out, and there's no reason to short change the victims or require more dangerous trips in and out just so one reporter can see first hand instead of on video....not that I see.

Sycraftsaid:

They don't catch shells because it is just something else to deal with. Military operations cause a lot of waste and contamination (the bullets are lead as an example). It would be superfluous to worry about the casings and just take up more space and crew time.

The reason they take reporters is because it helps the public see and support what is going on. Having public support behind these sort of things is important. Also most western nations have pretty strong freedom of the press rules.

Yes, he took up some space, but it isn't like that is the only helicopter they sent. This isn't a case of "one chopper and then the rest of you are screwed." They are sending more flights. That same chopper probably went back, after refueling and rearming, for that matter.

9547bissays...

My dear, you completely fail at reading comprehension: please point where I "justify" ISIS or terrorism in any way? (Hint: I don't.)

And where is that point about Israelis coming from? (It's "Israelis" by the way, please spell it properly.) The fact that I chided bobknight33 for having advocated child-killing, because it's a horrible thing to advocate ... would somehow equate to "picking on the Israelies" ... how exactly? You seem to have one twisted mind.

daconic1said:

Great justification for ISIS.

Or is it if no one is picking on the Israelies you feel left out? How come one groups violence can be justified by the other ?

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