Pretty much exactly how I feel. Being Jewish to me has nothing to do with Judaism as a religion.

Hai, or Khai as they pronounce it (חי) is "Alive" in Hebrew, but usually means the number 18. I could keep explaining it, but my point is it has very little to do with religion and more with tradition. There's a thin difference, but it's there

^Haha. You said Jew.

Austin = the brain of Texas.

Maybe part of the reason that the Christians are singled out in this particular Atheist show is because, overwhelmingly, it is the Christian religion that keeps trying to ram itself into everybody's lives.

I've never met a Jew that said "Rougy? You should be a Jew!" Not one Jew has ever knocked on my door trying to explain the wonders of the Old Testament. And they never asked me for money, either

Counter that with the jerk on the corner this morning, with the cross and the big sign that said "Jesus Saves!" and he would point at everybody who drove by.

He shoo'd away the homeless woman, but he fingered me and I almost fingered him back.

The caller's actually an atheist. He mentions it around 8:50.

A very fair expression of opinion on both sides. It is good to see rationalism at work.

Yeah! Fuck you, God! >=[

Basically these atheists are absolutely freakin' hilarious because they seem to whine like little children about the pesky Christians and their unilateral attempts to save their souls from eternal torture and misery.

Of course, the guilty feeling drive that actually causes such behavior is a bit insulting. Though you really shouldn't ever diss someone who is *genuinely concerned* about saving your soul.

Drive-by salvation, however, may be more prone to ulterior motivation.

Atheists who complain about God remind me of a bunch of Junior Highschool Satan worshippers who have nothing better to do than blame God for their problems (IE: time to worship Satan).

How the FUCK can you be so CHILDISH as to claim to be above religion and then spend all your atheist hours DISSING A DIETY THAT DOESN'T EVEN EXIST?!?!?!?!?!?!

Why don't they find something more important to worry about like philosophy and the meaning of life?

Why must atheists be inextricably bound to religious topics?

Yeah! why won't those atheists just shut up and sit in a corner!

Every "minority" has to be vocal otherwise the majority will continue to oppress them. People said the same things about blacks during the civil rights movement and about gays currently. "Why don't they find something better to do than try to shove their gayness in my face!"


"Though you really shouldn't ever diss someone who is *genuinely concerned* about saving your soul."

Yes, yes I should. How dare you imply that I'm "lost." I don't need saving. How dare you say that you were "just like me" except now you "know a truth!" Condescension is met with condescension.

The point is that they are accomplishing nothing.

If you are correct, they should take their complaints to the Mormon church and start a petition that we can all sign.

I do imply that you are lost when you dispute what I said about not dissing someone who is GENUINELY CONCERNED about saving YOUR SOUL and NOT THEIR OWN.

Next time I suggest you read what I am saying before you open your mouth and scream "THERE IS NO GOD THEREFORE I BLAME HIM FOR ALL MY PROBLEMS".

Also I suggest you pay more attention anyway because when I say something like "drive-by salvation" and then you associate me with the "Coombaya" crowd you are definitely a bit off.

>> ^Asphyxium913:
How the FUCK can you be so CHILDISH as to claim to be above religion and then spend all your atheist hours DISSING A DIETY THAT DOESN'T EVEN EXIST?!?!?!?!?!?!
Why don't they find something more important to worry about like philosophy and the meaning of life?
Why must atheists be inextricably bound to religious topics?


Because we're tired of people like you backing up your "beliefs" with yelling (as you've illustrated here) and ultimately violence. When people are conditioned to believe something that the know deep inside is ultimately not true, they seem to defend it by causing suffering of some kind to those that force them to confront the truth. We just want to be able to be free from Religious based legislation, scrutiny, and violence. This charade (all religions) has gone on long enough.

I'm with you truck. But I'm agnostic.

I'm just tired of (literally: this is partly from Junior High) immature people who seem to be unable to do anything with atheism other than flip the bird at Christianity.

I don't look at their complaining as actually constructive. Gay rights movements are fine, but bitching about religion and complaining like a little child about those damned Mormons bugging you all the time is just plain stupid.

Realize that if you are one of these people you probably have issues from your past that you need to get help with FROM A PSYCHOLOGIST.

IMO... and you may not be ready for this.. ready? YOU HAVE TO LET GO OF GOD!

You are likely a victim of domestic violence in a so-called "Christian family" that forced "religion" down your throat.

Don't blame Christianity or God for your evil fucked up parents. Don't blame yourself.

The above is an edit. Here's the rest of my post talking about what atheists SHOULD be doing if they're going to be publicly dissing Christianity:


If they're going to diss religion, they could at least be talking about how stupid the concept of a guy making a universe and sitting up there pre-programming himself apparently to endlessly get his jollies off on boring repetitious shit in some endless struggle between his all-powerful self and the imprisoned by him but apparently still able to influence people due to him (God) Devil in Hell.

If God is all-powerful, why the hell did he FUCK UP?!!

"God works in mysterious ways."

GAME OVER IT'S RIGGED!

Here's my atheist rant: If God exists and things are as they seem to be (see above), then God can KISS MY ASS TO HELL WITH HIS FRAUDULENT, EVIL, RIGGED BULLSHIT! Also, NICE JOB BEING THE BENEVOLENT LOVING GOD BY BEGINNING THAT LITTLE SAGA BY TORTURING YOUR SON TO DEATH AT THE HANDS OF THE EVIL PIECES OF SHIT THAT HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE SAVING.

THERE!

Next time I suggest you read what I am saying before you open your mouth and scream "THERE IS NO GOD THEREFORE I BLAME HIM FOR ALL MY PROBLEMS".

I wrote that? Good thing you're here to put words in my mouth.

Sorry about that.

On the bright side, you remained calm and logical.

Atheists don't complain about christians trying to save them they complain about christians trying to create and enforce laws that are not based upon morality but upon religious beliefs.
-Karl

Lol, I must have been listening to a very select group of people.

I'm a strong believer in the separation of church and state.

That's one of the best quotes I've seen.

"I'm a strong believer in the separation of church and state."

Please. Then go to church this Sunday(assuming you go to church) and take a stand against what your church is supporting politically. That is, if you really are a strong believer in separation of church and state.

Not enough religious people have the balls to do it. But it would go a long way in getting atheists off of your religion's back. If you stood up and said, "enough is enough", you might be surprised how many others might join you.

...But then again, you might get "stoned to death" and/or sent to hell. You never know. Religion is crazy that way.

Comment hidden because you are ignoring dag.(show it anyway)

So the caller turns out to be an atheist at the end ... bit of an echo chamber.

>> ^Asphyxium913:
you really shouldn't ever diss someone who is genuinely concerned about saving your soul.


I'd have less of a problem with it if they only targeted adults.

Well dude I'm sure that target practice is a rather easy thing to plug into very fucking quickly but anyways.

Just want to let you know that any abnormal "targeting" may be the result of something quite unnatural. Something particularly unusual, even.

In fact, it's such a big fucking mess of a big fucking mind altering, non-stop subjection, complete removal of the physical shit in your mind that makes you do many things.

It's too complex to explain to you in such "candid" (or whatever ) detail at this point in time.

Perhaps that would enlighten you as to how I can be so impatient with explaining things.

Oh well dude. Let me just tell you something though.

You can never fucking escape this fucking reality. Everyone ought to fucking realize that this so called "experience" is just a little bit different than some apparently random sequence of fucking reality you stupid ignorant little bitch.

How can you look at this shit and think that it's normal and natural?

How can you look at this shit and think that it's normal and natural?

"...But then again, you might get "stoned to death" and/or sent to hell. You never know. Religion is crazy that way."

You better watch what you fucking say dude. I don't think there's any doctor or magical fucking apparatus from above that will fucking help you if something happens to you where your life is truly fucking ruined (unlike being "blinded") and you will truly feel the need to kill yourself even if to just be responsible (in that hypothetical where you could "stop it" and don't fucking get the wrong fucking idea about where I'm going with this shit. How about these problems will always happen, will always be inevitable, have always been part of the FUCKING PROGRAM HELLO!!!, and obviously what I was referring to LOL) and stop it from happening.

Or perhaps fail to "lock on" to any specific subject matter you might want to be thinking about.

Like how the fuck so much drama can fucking happen and how you can think that this is a natural process.

In any way shape or form.

Kiss my ass to Hell. (and back? AGAIN?!!! ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS?!!! DO YOU NEED A FUCKING DOCTOR?!!?!?!?! LOL!!!!! <bleed this shit away motherfucker.>)

"Please. Then go to church this Sunday(assuming you go to church) and take a stand against what your church is supporting politically. That is, if you really are a strong believer in separation of church and state."

The way you talk makes me think that there is something very wrong with you dude.

If the shoe doesn't fit THAT FUCKING BAD, and people keep trying the SAME FUCKING THING OVER AND OVER (minus the JUST TRYING TO DO YOUR FUCKING JOB THING MOTHERFUCKER), what does that tell you about these people?

WHY THE FUCK WOULD I, THE AGNOSTIC, GO TO CHURCH (where they OBVIOUSLY have a ******POLITICAL AGENDA******* you INCOMPETENT FUCKING MORONIC FUCKING JUNIOR-HIGHSCHOOL <REALLY!!!!! I'M SO FUCKING SERIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!> IDIOT!) and attempt to communicate to the entire church the EVILS of having "In God We Trust" on the dollar bill?

YOU ARE A SIMPLETON FUCKING IDIOT AND SHOULDN'T EVER OPEN YOUR FUCKING MOUTH EVER AGAIN.

Wow Asphyxium, just...wow.

I read your posts a couple times trying to make sense out of them and the only thing I can figure is that your confusing some of the members here with the voices in your head.

Dude, you really need a bit of self awareness before you go off accusing someone else of needing to "NEVER OPEN YOUR FUCKING MOUTH EVER AGAIN". You are calling everybody names for being worked up about petty, unchangeable things. But then you become completely unhinged about a very trivial matter that you can't possibly do anything about. Brilliant. What are dinners like at your household? Maybe mixing in a grace wouldn't be so bad after all. Apparently it has some calming effects.

[everybody talk is hushed tomes please so as not to disturb asphyxium93]