If you're not in it for the bewbage, then I'm sure there are other qualities to the video.. I wasn't really paying attention.

She's bang on with these observations. And thus not a surprise that she's getting death threats.

Why do you have to be so disrespectful to this bright young girl?

The world needs a LOT more people like her! You go girl!

Also, can we please stop referring to her in relation to her physical attributes, as pleasant as they may be? It is rather demeaning. Moreover, she is sufficiently well known on the internet to be referred to by her pseudo, ZOMGitsCriss, which is not even in the tags here. Shameful!

she is an idiot.

You can find even worse examples in the Torah or Bible. So this is retarded. Yes, life WAS different hundreds of years ago.

>> ^joedirt:

she is an idiot.
You can find even worse examples in the Torah or Bible. So this is retarded. Yes, life WAS different hundreds of years ago.



She addresses your criticism in this very video when she says that Muslims hold Mohammed as a timeless example of a moral person.

Even (most) Christians accept that violent Old Testament figures such as Joshua were a product of their times and specifically directed by God.

Your obvious enlightenment does not spread to the millions of people with faith in this world.

The girl is not an idiot. The video is addressing responses from her critics and not the more general case of what's the most murderous religion - it's not retarded. The examples in the Qur'an may not be the worst in religious text but they are bad and illustrate what she was arguing clearly. Examples in the Torah or the Bible would have been completely out of context here.

>> ^joedirt:

she is an idiot.
You can find even worse examples in the Torah or Bible. So this is retarded. Yes, life WAS different hundreds of years ago.

>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:

Why do you have to be so disrespectful to this bright young girl?


I don't have to...

Completely agree. Criss is clearly an intelligent young woman (who happens to be easy on the eyes) and yet every video is "hot romanian girl something something". It's kinda juvenile.

Don't make me get my emp cannon!


>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:

Why do you have to be so disrespectful to this bright young girl?


>> ^hpqp:

Also, can we please stop referring to her in relation to her physical attributes, as pleasant as they may be? It is rather demeaning. Moreover, she is sufficiently well known on the internet to be referred to by her pseudo, ZOMGitsCriss, which is not even in the tags here. Shameful!

>> ^joedirt:

she is an idiot.
You can find even worse examples in the Torah or Bible. So this is retarded. Yes, life WAS different hundreds of years ago.


Did you even watch the video? Whether or not life was different is irrelevant. Muslims look to the life of Muhammed as an example of how to live.

I admire Caesar and Genghis Khan as strategists and leaders, but at the same time I can recognise that both were guilty of what would be considered hideous atrocities in modern times. As such, I don't look to them for moral guidance. Unfortunately, Muhammed is not viewed with the same filter.

How 'bout no? Here she's known as "hot romanian girl", tough tittie if some people don't like that.
>> ^hpqp:

Also, can we please stop referring to her in relation to her physical attributes, as pleasant as they may be? It is rather demeaning. Moreover, she is sufficiently well known on the internet to be referred to by her pseudo, ZOMGitsCriss, which is not even in the tags here. Shameful!

I sensed in advance that this was a gwiz post by the title alone.

Yeah, it really catches the eye like a good title should.
>> ^calvados:

I sensed in advance that this was a gwiz post by the title alone.

why is dumb cunt missing from the tags?

>> ^joedirt:

why is dumb cunt missing from the tags?


because you're not in the video?

>> ^ChaosEngine:

>> ^joedirt:
why is dumb cunt missing from the tags?

because you're not in the video?


Haha, burn! Seriously, what is joedirt's problem?

She remind you of the chick that dumped you when you were in 8th grade or something?

She really is presenting half the picture of what things really are like. I'm not going to get into the paedophilia, rape charges etc, because i dont want to have a back and forth rather, i'd just expose her argument to be silly and weak as quickly and briefly as I can.

Take for example, she quotes: 9:5 "Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them"...

Well if you actually look at 9:5 in it's entirely:

But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

And just to be uber-clear, let's continue onto 9:6

If one amongst the Pagans ask thee for asylum, grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of Allah; and then escort him to where he can be secure. That is because they are men without knowledge.

If you want to get into the other point, reply, otherwise i really am not going to preach to a choir that simply isn't willing to listen.
*edit; i'm not even going to respond, you dont win arguments on the internet, they go on forever. If you want to criticize something, just at the very least dont be ignorant about it.

>> ^osama1234:

...
i'd just expose her argument to be silly and weak as quickly and briefly as I can.
Take for example, she quotes: 9:5 "Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them"...
Well if you actually look at 9:5 in it's entirely:
But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
And just to be uber-clear, let's continue onto 9:6
If one amongst the Pagans ask thee for asylum, grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of Allah; and then escort him to where he can be secure. That is because they are men without knowledge.
....


So it essentially says that you should use every tool at your disposal to kill the unbeliever, but if they "see the light" and convert to your way of thinking, then they're cool? Or did I miss something? Because that's not really an improvement!

Please note that I am in such awe of your debating technique I have decided to adopt it. I too will not be responding to anyone who points out flaws in my argument. As such, I'm right because I say I am. /thread

LALALAALALAALALALAALALALALALALALALAL I'M NOT LISTENING!!!

This honestly is the last time, because this crap goes on forever. As someone said, they'll bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Please divert your eyes to where i wrote 9:6. If you refuse to read it, I can't help you.

>> ^ChaosEngine:

>> ^osama1234:
...
i'd just expose her argument to be silly and weak as quickly and briefly as I can.
Take for example, she quotes: 9:5 "Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them"...
Well if you actually look at 9:5 in it's entirely:
But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
And just to be uber-clear, let's continue onto 9:6
If one amongst the Pagans ask thee for asylum, grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of Allah; and then escort him to where he can be secure. That is because they are men without knowledge.
....

So it essentially says that you should use every tool at your disposal to kill the unbeliever, but if they "see the light" and convert to your way of thinking, then they're cool? Or did I miss something? Because that's not really an improvement!
Please note that I am in such awe of your debating technique I have decided to adopt it. I too will not be responding to anyone who points out flaws in my argument. As such, I'm right because I say I am. /thread
LALALAALALAALALALAALALALALALALALALAL I'M NOT LISTENING!!!

Wow, Osama, you weren't kidding! You really AREN'T going to argue your point. Because 9:6 sounds pretty fucking awful to me too. If the unbelievers plead for their lives as you sack their village, take them and imprison them and brainwash them until they believe in Allah. That's what I read there. So how is that better?

Non-existent God, I'm in love with this girl.

Tags for this video have been changed from 'hot romanian girl, muslim, islam, religion, quran, peaceful islamists' to 'hot romanian girl, muslim, islam, religion, quran, ZOMGitsCriss' - edited by jwray

She is definitely being hateful here... She could have made the same argument in a more respectful manner.

She needs to cite all the source of her information regarding prophet Muhammad, so that we can look it up. Otherwise, I don't believe some of the accusations.

>> ^osama1234:

This honestly is the last time, because this crap goes on forever. As someone said, they'll bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Please divert your eyes to where i wrote 9:6. If you refuse to read it, I can't help you.
>> ^ChaosEngine:
>> ^osama1234:
...
i'd just expose her argument to be silly and weak as quickly and briefly as I can.
Take for example, she quotes: 9:5 "Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them"...
Well if you actually look at 9:5 in it's entirely:
But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
And just to be uber-clear, let's continue onto 9:6
If one amongst the Pagans ask thee for asylum, grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of Allah; and then escort him to where he can be secure. That is because they are men without knowledge.
....

So it essentially says that you should use every tool at your disposal to kill the unbeliever, but if they "see the light" and convert to your way of thinking, then they're cool? Or did I miss something? Because that's not really an improvement!
Please note that I am in such awe of your debating technique I have decided to adopt it. I too will not be responding to anyone who points out flaws in my argument. As such, I'm right because I say I am. /thread
LALALAALALAALALALAALALALALALALALALAL I'M NOT LISTENING!!!



Dude, why do you ignore verse 9:5... The essential argument is that if join us (see the light) you will survive, but if you are against us then we will kill you. But to keep things in perspective a war was going on at that time.

I'd say more of a shelf than a "rack"

>> ^osama1234:

This honestly is the last time, because this crap goes on forever. As someone said, they'll bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Please divert your eyes to where i wrote 9:6. If you refuse to read it, I can't help you.


Ok, which part of "LALALALALALALALLALA I'm not listening" didn't you understand? FFS dude, if you're going to deploy the "I'm not arguing cos I know I'm right" argument, you need to have the courage to stand by your convictions and STFU. Otherwise you just look like a whiny little bitch with no actual argument. You'll notice I am not actually arguing your point, just ridiculing you. I already declared I'm right and frankly, childish name calling is a level of respect just above what your argument merits.

>> ^ChaosEngine:

>> ^joedirt:
why is dumb cunt missing from the tags?

because you're not in the video?


I like the cut of your jib, sir.

Her only argument was that parts of the Quran seem to incite and condone violence. It's pretty obvious to me that she proved her point.

so you guys are saying that people with religious beliefs may take scripture and conflate it to mean whatever they wish it to mean to rationalize their behavior?
and that they may attempt to conscript others to believe as they do?
using the very same scripture?
possibly taking scripture out of context to fascillitate their own agenda?
BLASPHEMERS!
i now go to beg forgiveness from my lord and savior gilgamesh and may he have mercy on your souls.

Is this Pat Condell's daughter?-s'rsly, the girl defends herself well- ?

Wait...Thought the issue at hand before the "bash joedirt" back and fourth and the other 2 obamamysamaya mama guys was the shitty title because of gwiz's, "pre-occupation with having some intercourse with a girl for the first time" was on the chopping block??.... Lost ya here, I'm ognna frkna frkna.....mmmmmpphrumph!

ok....y'all voted for all my rants...one for you, cool-as-fuck-accent-havin' chick onna mission -

Oh and dude..If you wanna impress a chick??...Do it without the references to their breasts...unless they like that-then, "DOOOOOO IT!"

Besides...She's gotta track-rack, perfectly suited for guys unlike you, efficient, good to go, and not something infant males that had no titty or too much or NONE while nursing, could attract or afford....just sayin'-

No one who's an atheist on this website knows what religion really is, or else they simply don't speak up enough for me to remember their handles.

@choggie: go play around on your own posts. I don't like trolls.

@ChaosEngine

You are my new Sift hero. I bow to thee.

I think it's hilarious that when demon_ix posted a video with this girl http://videosift.com/video/Hot-Romanian-Girl-Takes-Kirk-Cameron-s-Book-Video-Apart and called her "hot romanian girl" no one even raises an eyebrow, but when I take the piss out of it people call it "shameful", "juvenile" and "disrespectful". I guess it shows who has a sense of humor and who doesn't.

Here's to all you poor people who takes things so seriously



Also, for whatever it's worth, I agree with just about everything she says here.

>> ^gwiz665:
I would suck her atheist bewbs


INAPPROPRIATE DUDE!

@gwiz665

Just because there varying opinions about your questionable title doesn't mean people don't have a sense of humor. If anything, no one was really crazy about the other title either, but you managed to make it even worse. No one accused you of committing a crime, but if you really cannot acknowledge why your title is demeaning and rude in referring to the individual in the video - and to women in general - then you are in denial. * discuss

@Issykitty of course it's demeaning, that was the point of it! That doesn't mean, I mean it. If I had named it "Second round with islam" it would have rotted in my PQ with 8 votes, so I went with a joke. 50+ votes and people see it.

I'm glad to see you edited your comment, the level of douche in the original I got in the mail was pretty high. People who are so stuck up that they can't see the humor in the title, can suck an egg for all I care. I had thought to rename the video to something even worse, just to piss off the people with rods up their butt, but I think this show has gone on long enough, and I don't need the grief.

Here, I'll change it a little bit to appease the nazis, maybe you people can go out and hold a Code Pink rally or something now.

>> ^choggie:
No one who's an atheist on this website knows what religion really is, or else they simply don't speak up enough for me to remember their handles.


I'm a confirmed Lutheran turned atheist. I used to believe whole-heartedly until I was around 10.

>> ^gwiz665:

@<a rel="nofollow" href="http://issykitty.videosift.com" title="member since August 29th, 2007" class="profilelink"><strong style="color: rgb(153, 102, 255);">Issykitty of course it's demeaning, that was the point of it! That doesn't mean, I mean it. If I had named it "Second round with islam" it would have rotted in my PQ with 8 votes, so I went with a joke. 50+ votes and people see it.
I'm glad to see you edited your comment, the level of douche in the original I got in the mail was pretty high. People who are so stuck up that they can't see the humor in the title, can suck an egg for all I care. I had thought to rename the video to something even worse, just to piss off the people with rods up their butt, but I think this show has gone on long enough, and I don't need the grief.


If the douche fits... lol

For someone who thinks everyone is being so oversensitive and fASCIST just for expressing distaste for your title, you're sounding whiny x 100 in comparison, dontcha think? If people were REALLY that hateful and humorless, would they have been able to vote for your vid (as I have), despite the sucky title you gave it? Instead, they kindly and honestly gave their opinion in a frank manner, and you went on to say F U, and had a pathetic hissy fit in response. Hey, I totally understand now that you explained that you were drawing attention w/ your title and that's fine, but why are you freaking out on people just for trying to engage you with their honest opinions?

Oh, and trying to uphold a reasonable level of respect for females makes them nazis? I did not know that! Heil Siftler!!!!!

@Issykitty "Kindly"? Are you kidding now again? "Disrespectful", "shameful", "juvenile", "sucky", "pathetic", and "denial". Those are not kind words. If you poor sensitive people had asked me nicely, I would have changed the title without throwing a hissy fit, but when people instead insinuate that I should be ashamed or attack my person, that just doesn't feel very kind at all (yes, I'm sensitive about my person, so I hit back). A PC thug by any other name is still a thug. Stop being a goddamn thug!

Honest opinion is one thing, being condescending, patronizing, and spiteful is another.

HEIL KITTLER!