Tesla driver loses control as car speeds down street

CCTV footage of deadly Tesla accident causing two deaths in China after speeding for 2.6 kilometers.

CCTV footage shows a Tesla Model-Y was parking and suddenly lost control and travelled at high speed for two kilometers, in Chaozhou, South China's Guangdong Province, on last Saturday Nov 5, 2022.

The car hit two motorcycles and two bicycles and resulting two deaths and three injuries, Chinese local news outlet Jimu News reported on Sunday Nov 13, 2022, adding that the driver's family is still awaiting identification results for the vehicle.

Tesla responded to a vehicle accident which led to two deaths and three injuries in Chaozhou, South China's Guangdong Province on Sunday, saying that the accident video matches the background data, and that local police are seeking to restore the accident through identification from a third-party agency.
BSRsays...

The teenage robots are rising to power!

If you listen very closely you can hear yourself saying HOLY SHIT!

cloudballoonsays...

Where's the outrage & conspiracy theories that say "ah Tesla, the machines that the US send to kill Chinese discreetly?" Just wait until the CCP find an excuse to kick (or crippling) Tesla out of the Chinese market.

newtboysays...

Yeah…Elon doesn’t have enough problems right now, time for him to merge his car and his rocket companies and get his cars to become unguided missiles. Next step is Twitter integration to target non verified pedestrians. That will make $8 for verification seem worth it!

Holy shit!
Sometimes unbelievable acceleration and AI driven steering isn’t such a good thing. Yikes!

newtboysays...

“Police ruled out that the driver was intoxicated.” Sorry.

At best it’s “Tesla is so powerful that it’s own brakes….they do nothing!”

bobknight33said:

Tesla has nothing to do with this.

Title should be Drunk driver loses control as car speeds down street

BSRsays...

If that makes you feel better I'm happy for you. Good luck with your fantasy life.

A drunk driver would have never made as far as this driver did.

bobknight33said:

Tesla has nothing to do with this.

Title should be Drunk driver loses control as car speeds down street

bcglorfsays...

Painful as it is to somewhat side with Bob, but...

this certainly has the look of someone mistakenly stomping on the accelerator instead of the brakes, and in a panic locking their foot to the floor trying to stop.

Not sure if Tesla's logs are as accessible to them in China, but unlike earlier "stuck accelerator" claims, Tesla may be able to clear point to log records showing if that was or wasn't the case here.

newtboysays...

It absolutely looked like auto pilot taking control to me, I’ve never heard of someone mistaking the gas pedal for the brakes for 1/10 that timeframe, it’s usually under 1 second before they crash.

Hate to tell you but Tesla has denied fault every time auto pilot has failed. For instance, last year autopilot was involved in 273 crashes but only 35 had been reported since 2016, so clearly Tesla under reports. NTSB found that Tesla automatically turned off auto pilot just before it was going to crash to hide auto pilot involvement. New rules force reporting if auto pilot was in use 30 seconds before any crash, and cases increased exponentially overnight.

70% of all driver assistance involved crashes were Tesla.
5/6 fatalities were in Teslas, and the vast majority of serious injuries. (Now 7/8)

There’s a reason Tesla is under congressional investigation for killing people.

China does not trust Tesla to read the data without erasing or manipulating it. Reports I read said they were using a third party to go over the data because they believe Tesla will cover it up….as they believe Tesla has done before.

If you want to believe Musk when he again says “not my fault”, that’s your prerogative, but it’s not your prerogative not to tell others that’s the truth. Autopilot malfunctions are a documented issue….but occur far less often than driver malfunctions, it’s true. This is not the first reported runaway Tesla, just the first caught entirely on external cameras.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/06/15/tesla-autopilot-crashes/

https://tickernews.co/tesla-crash-leaves-two-dead-in-china/

Wait for the third party report to be sure, but all indications are this was an auto pilot malfunction, and Tesla doesn’t know more than we do right now because China isn’t giving them the car back.

bcglorfsaid:

And, not sure of the reliability of the site, but at least at link below is being reported Tesla's China branch is reporting exactly that:

https://electrek.co/2022/11/13/tesla-china-responds-to-dramatic-crash-that-kills-two-video/

bcglorfsays...

Not that I want to be siding with the corporation, but I'm inclined to believe that at least the brake lights would've remained connected to pressing the brake pedal, no?

And... not seeing any brake lights in that video, it looks like driver error and then panic.

newtboysaid:

It absolutely looked like auto pilot taking control to me, I’ve never heard of someone mistaking the gas pedal for the brakes for 1/10 that timeframe, it’s usually under 1 second before they crash.

Hate to tell you but Tesla has denied fault every time auto pilot has failed. For instance, last year autopilot was involved in 273 crashes but only 35 had been reported since 2016, so clearly Tesla under reports. NTSB found that Tesla automatically turned off auto pilot just before it was going to crash to hide auto pilot involvement. New rules force reporting if auto pilot was in use 30 seconds before any crash, and cases increased exponentially overnight.

70% of all driver assistance involved crashes were Tesla.
5/6 fatalities were in Teslas, and the vast majority of serious injuries. (Now 7/8)

There’s a reason Tesla is under congressional investigation for killing people.

China does not trust Tesla to read the data without erasing or manipulating it. Reports I read said they were using a third party to go over the data because they believe Tesla will cover it up….as they believe Tesla has done before.

If you want to believe Musk when he again says “not my fault”, that’s your prerogative, but it’s not your prerogative not to tell others that’s the truth. Autopilot malfunctions are a documented issue….but occur far less often than driver malfunctions, it’s true. This is not the first reported runaway Tesla, just the first caught entirely on external cameras.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/06/15/tesla-autopilot-crashes/

Wait for the third party report to be sure, but all indications are this was an auto pilot malfunction, and Tesla doesn’t know more than we do right now because China isn’t giving them the car back.

newtboysays...

That’s Tesla’s position…but no.

The man had been complaining about the brakes not working properly for months according to his family (yet kept driving, making him culpable imo).

It’s easily possible his brake sensor failed on the pedal, then there would be no light. Since I assume, to be capable of autopilot, Tesla brakes are by wire/electrical, not hydraulic, a simple sensor failure means no brakes at all and no brake lights. (And no record that he hit the brakes)

Again, never once heard of a panic pedal misidentification lasting 1/2 that long. Possible, but unlikely. 99/100 of pedal misidentification are well under 1 second mistakes during parking. There have been many reports of throttle sticking/ accelerating without throttle input in teslas.

Since Tesla denies fault EVERY TIME NO MATTER WHAT, and hides the vast majority of driver assisted crashes, I’ll wait for the third party investigation, but on the surface, to me, it looks like a software (or hardware) failure….and that’s what the driver says too.

bcglorfsaid:

Not that I want to be siding with the corporation, but I'm inclined to believe that at least the brake lights would've remained connected to pressing the brake pedal, no?

And... not seeing any brake lights in that video, it looks like driver error and then panic.

siftbotsays...

Moving this video to BSR's personal queue. It failed to receive enough votes to get sifted up to the front page within 2 days.

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