Zero Punctuation: Star Wars: The Old Republic

Shepppardsays...

Tons wrong with the review this week.

I've played a Sith marauder to 50, and can honestly say most of what he's bitching about is either not true, or non-existent.

The multi-group chat options in instances (or quests, for that matter) start off by giving everyone a random roll, and the highest roll wins and gets to speak. However, everyone else in that roll now has a +(x) bonus to their next roll, so it's not always one person dominating the conversation.

The same roll system applies to the light/dark options, but if you choose the good option, and someone chooses the bad option, and they win, the quest storyline DOES go down the "Dark" side, but you don't get dark points. Quite contrary, actually, because since you chose the light side option, you still get light side points.

Every class has party members, up to 6. Corso Riggs (The guy with the harpoon) is the first one you get, and can be replaced by level 20 max. (haven't fully done the storyline on smugglar yet) But you also always have at least two romantic options later down the road, too.

PvP is also actually pretty balanced, not once have I really said "Wow, that class is overpowered." The only reason PvP was "Unbalanced" was because the system they had in place was a "bolster" system, so level 10's and level 50's could be in the same pvp match, and the level 10 would be bumped up to level 50 base stats. The problem though was that the gear level 50's had was rediculously good by comparison giving them an unfair advantage.. Which is why three patches ago they made level 50's get their own battleground, and it's now just 10-49.

And.. for the record.. your morale alignment really doesn't mean shit all. You unlock very few things by being either full light or full dark, and they have equivilent items to them that don't require you be either.

Basically, if you're going to spend a week gathering information on an MMo, then don't even freaking bother reviewing it.

/rant

spoco2says...

Again with someone getting shitty at Yahtzee for 'reviewing' a game unfavourably that they enjoy.

He doesn't really do REVIEWS, he's doing critiques, and ones for laffs, not for actual, deep searching into the soul of a game and recommending whether you play it or not.

Shepppardsays...

>> ^spoco2:

Again with someone getting shitty at Yahtzee for 'reviewing' a game unfavourably that they enjoy.
He doesn't really do REVIEWS, he's doing critiques, and ones for laffs, not for actual, deep searching into the soul of a game and recommending whether you play it or not.


You can't critique something you've played literally less than 10% of.

Seriously, I'm not generally one of the people who get pissed off at his reviews. However, when 90% of what he's saying is very obviously wrong, I have a problem with that. People take his "Critiques" seriously, and if he doesn't like it, people don't play it. So when he makes an unfavourable "critique" about something based on non-existent things, yeah, I get a tad upset.

braindonutsays...

Yahtzee doesn't do reviews or critiques. He does comedy. I've stopped looking at it as anything more than that.>> ^spoco2:

Again with someone getting shitty at Yahtzee for 'reviewing' a game unfavourably that they enjoy.
He doesn't really do REVIEWS, he's doing critiques, and ones for laffs, not for actual, deep searching into the soul of a game and recommending whether you play it or not.

braindonutsays...

I haven't done the smuggler story at all, but as a Sith Warrior, I can say the story was VERY engaging all the way up to level 40 something. They did a great job of continually ratcheting up the drama. If it weren't for the fact that I'm stupid busy dealing with moving into my new house and work, I'd be playing it right now.

CrushBugsays...

I love both the game and his review.

I share his hate for Corso Riggs harpooning people up close when I am a ranged class, but thankfully the last patch has Corso remembering that I turned off his Harpoon ability and he has never used it since. Whew.

Not to spam it up, too much, but Penny Arcade nailed a one of the moments:

http://penny-arcade.com/comic/2011/12/30

00Scud00says...

I've learned it's usually pointless to get too worked up about reviews that I don't agree with completely, whether it's from Yahtzee or anyone else, I enjoy what I play and don't give a toss what anyone else thinks. As for the arbitrary decision of who gets to make moral choices for the entire group, I have to wonder if I'm an evil Sith bastard, what am I doing adventuring with a goody-two-shoes lightsider in the first place?

VoodooVsays...

did anyone else get the feeling he was ranting against MMORPGs in general more than he was ranting about SWTOR?

But yeah, I'll admit my bias as I am playing the game and liking it. I totally agree that all the standard MMO complaints about quests and enemies all standing in random spots confined to a small area are ridiculous. MMOs need to undergo a major evolution, IMO for them to be truly fun but for now I totally accept that I have to live through the shitty parts of MMOs to experience the fun stuff.

rottenseedsays...

Yes I can, watch: Star Wars Old Republic sucks



(I've played exactly 0% of this game)>> ^Shepppard:

>> ^spoco2:
Again with someone getting shitty at Yahtzee for 'reviewing' a game unfavourably that they enjoy.
He doesn't really do REVIEWS, he's doing critiques, and ones for laffs, not for actual, deep searching into the soul of a game and recommending whether you play it or not.

You can't critique something you've played literally less than 10% of.
Seriously, I'm not generally one of the people who get pissed off at his reviews. However, when 90% of what he's saying is very obviously wrong, I have a problem with that. People take his "Critiques" seriously, and if he doesn't like it, people don't play it. So when he makes an unfavourable "critique" about something based on non-existent things, yeah, I get a tad upset.

Unsung_Herosays...

>> ^Drax:

>> ^Unsung_Hero:
I only buy games Yahtzee recommends.
...I own 2 games <img class="smiley" src="http://videosift.com/cdm/emoticon/frown.gif">

You gotta admit, Silent Hill 2 IS pretty good though...


Dually noted.

Going back and playing that game seems more terrifying than what I remember... It might have something to do with the graphics and the inability to see the creatures stalking me.

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