This week, Zero Punctuation reviews Halo Wars and Unskippable guest reviews X-Blades. (From The Escapist)
RadHazGsays...

thoroughly enjoyable, I was actually accepting of the initial "stand in" but I loved the way Yahtzee came back. Also, fairly accurate on both counts as well.

Deanosays...

I genuinely don't get the RTS genre. They seem so dreary and tedious. And the point and click nature of the affair is worsened on consoles.
That said I do like turn-based strategy where you have time to consider your moves and the revelation of the AI's moves provoke intense analysis and deliberation.

Games like Halo Wars seem to straddle between being strategy and action-orientated and that doesn't work for me.

rgroom1says...

rts games are great, but only on computers
when i game it's almost exclusively console, but i will surrender the rts to the desktop for the same reasons that he did. No hotkeys, no grouping.

Xaxsays...

Loved the rant near the end about the arbitrary time limit, because he was bang-on, and it's an excellent demonstration of horrible, inexcusable game design that should result in the complete and total failure of whatever company designed the game.

bluecliffsays...

>> ^Deano:
I genuinely don't get the RTS genre. They seem so dreary and tedious. And the point and click nature of the affair is worsened on consoles.
That said I do like turn-based strategy where you have time to consider your moves and the revelation of the AI's moves provoke intense analysis and deliberation.
Games like Halo Wars seem to straddle between being strategy and action-orientated and that doesn't work for me.



yeah,
I was thinking - the internet itself is somewhat turn based, if you think about it.

I have my philosophy of RTS games. It's for people who can't shut their reason off, and constantly move mental pieces about. The rts game encloses this part of the mind into a tight stretch of runway, and lets it do its thing, exhausting it. So it's actually quite relaxing, if the game is well made.

EDDsays...

I enjoyed the Xblades review more than Yahtzee's, if only because the game is a complete, utter, ultimate pos, as opposed to Halo Wars, which might be just mediocre RTS. And didn't the Unskipabble guy actually say "out the cunting window" at one point?

Aemaethsays...

I don't know what it more tragic: that Yahtzee has a general disdain for RTS because he tried HALO WARS or that he thinks Stormrise can fix that....

PS: Stormrise is one of the worst games I've played in years. After 5 minutes of that game, you'll quit and go back to X-Blades.

kageninsays...

I never really enjoyed WarCraft or StarCraft. I never really enjoyed RTS until I played Homeworld, one of the first really great true 3D RTSs. Fricking phenominal game, btw. After that, I could tolerate some of the better 2D RTS a little easier.

Gamepads are TERRIBLE controllers for RTS games. Most console ports of PC RTS tend to suck. The controls invariably suck. I have yet to see one successful console RTS.

That said, I'd love for someone to prove me wrong on by making a really great Wii RTS. I got your click'n'drag RIGHT HERE. 2 years later, and no one is attempting what could be one of the best fits for an all-but-non-existent genre.

Kruposays...

I declare *Asian on this vid, you know why Zifnab, the clincher. YES.

Summed up my feelings about all those RTS missions with ridiculous timers. Heck, even when there *IS* a good reason to rush here or there I'm annoyed by it. I'm here to have some fun, not beat a stupid clock. I would play a racing game if I want that.

Which is why I turn off timed battles when I play single player Total War games for that matter too.

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