Wait, was there a fucking horse?

>> ^Lawdeedaw:

Wait, was there a fucking horse?

>> ^hpqp:

Video

Mohamed riding his female headed horse... is that code? (I'm going to die for that one)

Sorry, hpqp, I meant to put sarcasm comment at the end of my comment because I could easily guess that there was a horse.

Don't make me smite you hpqp with my smiting stick!

hpqp... take that audio and put it to Nyan Cat... LOL

That, and the death threats.

You're missing an 'i' in his last name.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dara_%C3%93_Briain

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The reason he doesn't tell Muslim jokes is because there aren't any? Can't be a very smart comedian.

... might need to watch it again...
>> ^chilaxe:

The reason he doesn't tell Muslim jokes is because there aren't any? Can't be a very smart comedian.

were you and i not watching the same video? >> ^chilaxe:

The reason he doesn't tell Muslim jokes is because there aren't any? Can't be a very smart comedian.

@bamdrew @peggedbea

"Did you hear about the pretty Muslim woman who came out of a party and was stoned? She didn't survive."

Comedians can think of jokes about anything that has presence in the culture, even quantum physics, so even if you only want friendly jokes, comedians can provide that if they want to. He doesn't want to or he's not smart enough to, so he said something that isn't true.

well... agree to disagree @chilaxe...
I thought he went in a funny and unexpected direction, instead of poking fun at backwards fundamentalism.

>> ^chilaxe:

@bamdrew @peggedbea
"Did you hear about the pretty Muslim woman who came out of a party and was stoned? She didn't survive."
Comedians can think of jokes about anything that has presence in the culture, even quantum physics, so even if you only want friendly jokes, comedians can provide that if they want to. He doesn't want to or he's not smart enough to, so he said something that isn't true.


If that's what passes for Muslim humour, I can see why he doesn't do it.

@Payback

Since the following videos are in the top sifts at the same time as this video, it's curious to see which un-self-reflective people will fall for the idea that professional comedians are literally incapable of thinking of anything funny to say about a huge part of global news and culture. Under normal circumstances, nobody would agree with that idea.

http://videosift.com/video/Pakistani-comedienne-in-Oslo-takes-on-Islam
http://videosift.com/video/The-Good-Muslim-Wife-Joke

Since the following videos are in the top sifts at the same time as this video, it's curious to see which un-self-reflective people will fall for the idea that professional comedians are literally incapable of thinking of anything funny to say about a huge part of global news and culture


He doesn't say he literally couldn't. He is just giving a reason why he doesn't. Imagine he had instead said "Why don't I do jokes about electricians? Because I don't know anything about being an electrician, and neither do you".

Nobody would be saying: "well, you could make lightbulb jokes" or "you know electricians work with electricity - can't you joke about that?". Barring the political charge, I think we'd all understand what he means - it's easier to make jokes about things he and the audience are both familiar with.

That doesn't mean he couldn't make jokes about Muslims or electricians, but unfamiliarity would make his life harder. It seems like a reasonable goal for him to do the funniest stuff he can think of, and it's easier to think about things you know well. Clearly the other part is true as well - people can respond better to jokes if they know the subject: I'm sure there's many electrician or Muslim or programmer jokes that just aren't going to work for a varied British audience (but that might go down great at an electrician conference, on TV in Turkey, or on TopCoder).

>> ^chilaxe:

at Payback
Since the following videos are in the top sifts at the same time as this video, it's curious to see which un-self-reflective people will fall for the idea that professional comedians are literally incapable of thinking of anything funny to say about a huge part of global news and culture. Under normal circumstances, nobody would agree with that idea.


Yea, as my joke was only slightly funnier than yours, I can see why you totally missed the point...

...that and the fact that if Dara used that joke you link, he'd probably be labeled racist or at least a misogynist. Case in point, 90% of Chris Rock's material is over-the-top in-your-face hilarious, but a white man would be run through on a pike if he said the same thing.

Why would you spend the time to learn about something, only to have to explain the joke to your audience?

The female muslim making the joke....hers isn't about the Muslim religion specifically. It's about marrying a 9 year old, non-Muslims can get the point of it. If she would have said 16 year old, a number of people wouldn't have thought much of anything about that.

Why doesn't Jesus eat M&Ms?

Because they keep falling through the holes in his hands!

@Payback

If the argument is that comedians can't tell Muslism jokes the way they tell Christian or Jewish jokes because liberals are too sensitive about Islam, then that is an argument against Dara Brian's thesis, not for it.

Brian's thesis is that he doesn't tell jokes about Islam not because it gets special treatment (we're too sensitive) but because that would require the audience understands Islam at something like an introductory academic level. That's a claim that shouldn't be accepted at face value.

It's like arguing non-Jews can't tell jokes about Jews because 'We don't even know what halakhot and Birkat Ha-Mizvot are!' However, Jews are commonly featured in jokes, because most jokes don't actually require an academic understanding of the subject.


@Porksandwich, a joke about Mohammad marrying a 9 year old is a joke related to Islam, but perhaps it can't normally be told because we give Islam special treatment (which is an argument against Brian's thesis).

Brian's joke is just a joke, not an argument to be defended.

@chilaxe

Jews are featured in jokes because there's a tremendous amount of Jewish people associated with comedy and Hollywood. They use what they know and people get exposed to it via television shows etc. They play on the stereotypes that many Jews themselves agree with, which means both Jews and non-Jews can laugh at it.

She actually said she wouldn't make a good Muslim wife because it has been a long time since she was 9 years old. I have never heard the Mohammad joke you mention.

It's called playing to your audience, if you know most of your audience knows jack shit about subjects......you don't want them sitting there wondering what the hell you meant while a few people chuckle off to the side. Looks like your audience is laughing at how bad you're doing at that point. Also if you know almost nothing about your subject you come off looking like an asshole when you screw it up, so......play to your strengths.

@Porksandwich

1a. Jokes about Asians are possible, even though Asians aren't as associated with Hollywood as Jews, because Asians are part of society. The idea that jokes about Muslims are impossible even though they're part of society is amazing.

1b. The suggestion that Muslim jokes aren't possible because Muslims don't agree with them is arguing against Brian's thesis.


2. Joking about not being a good Muslim wife is a joke related to Muslims.

3. Muslims are part of society, but you're arguing that unlike Asians or any other group, they're the only part of society that can't be subject to jokes.

This sounds like you're arguing against Brian, not for him.

Also, how much do we have to know about the subtleties of Asian cultures in order to joke that Asian-Americans have ninja skills, or that they're bad drivers, or other jokes that they don't agree with?

This is solely about giving Muslims special treatment while denying we're giving them special treatment.

@chilaxe

His argument was that christians used to complain that he never made fun of muslim religion, and he stopped doing religious jokes ( I have no idea if this is true, just based on what he said).

He basically said he knows very little about muslim religion and that the audience he plays to doesn't either. He specifically says:

A) I don't know a fucking thing about muslims and
B) Neither do you.

1a) Which is the asian religion again?
1b) His thesis was, he doesnt know a fucking thing about muslims. Can you prove this wrong?

2) Joking about marrying a 9 year old, could have turned it into a joke against southern rednecks: You'd never make a good southern wife! I'd never make a good southern wife, because Im not 9 or your sister. I'd never heard about muslims or Mohammad marrying a 9 year old, but it's funny because it's just twisted not because it's something I know muslims do. Perhaps you know something I do not, but it wouldn't have had the same bite if she said "because Im not 16 anymore"...well she obviously isn't 16 but it's not nearly as twisted. It's odd for the US at least, but I recognize that 16 may be old enough to marry without parental permission somewhere.

3) I don't know shit about muslim religion, the comedian says he doesn't know a fucking thing.

It sounds like you heard what you wanted to hear instead of what the comedian said. Perhaps if he had said "Native Americans" instead of "Muslims". They too are part of society, and I don't know shit about Native American religion to laugh and actually know what the guy was joking about meant something. Now if he said something about casinos and Native Americans....or tomahawks or teepees, shit like that. But do they have something to do with their religion? Fuck if I know.

OMG stop over-analyzing! Part of the reason why it's funny is because we know it's not entirely true! Muslim extremism is at an all time high, and it is totally understandable if somebody doesn't want to provoke them. But this guy comes up with a different and legitimate reason why he doesn't. Yes, he could make jokes about stereotypes, but that's kinda shallow and maybe that's not his thing, or maybe he thinks it's not worth the risk.

And somehow you manage to blame the liberals. Holy shit, what's wrong with you? No liberal has ever stopped a comedian from telling a joke he wanted to tell.

@MaxWilder

Yeah, but aren't liberals arguing Muslims should get special treatment, and then denying that's what they're arguing?

"Maybe he thinks it's not worth the risk." You're arguing against Brian's point, same as everybody else in this thread. Fair enough, I guess.

>> ^chilaxe:

Yeah, but aren't liberals arguing Muslims should get special treatment, and then denying that's what they're arguing?


The only people I know who want to give Muslims special treatment are the conservatives who want to bomb them and steal their oil.

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