Fausto is a jackass and it's good that he lost his job.

Where I work, if you access driver's license information for anything other than law enforcement reasons, you either 1. lose your terminal, or 2. lose your job.

Also, Cenk, if that really is your name, there is no rule that says that cops can break any law and get away with it.

Then why do cops get off scot-free whenever they murder and unarmed innocent person?


You know full well cops, lawyers and Judge work closely together, are sometimes friends, and will lie, misremember, or "not recall" shit to cover one another.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/police-rarely-criminally-charged-for-on-duty-shootings-1416874955

" New research by a Bowling Green State University criminologist shows that 41 officers in the U.S. were charged with either murder or manslaughter in connection with on-duty shootings over a seven-year period ending in 2011. Over that same period, the Federal Bureau of Investigation reported 2,718 justified homicides by law enforcement, an incomplete count, according to experts. "

"The think tank’s researchers tracked allegations of misconduct involving nearly 11,000 police officers in the U.S. from April 2009 through December 2010. They found that 3,238 of those cases resulted in criminal charges, and 1,063—or 33% of those charged criminally—resulted in convictions. In felony cases against the general public in 2009 in the country’s 75 largest counties, 66% were convicted, according to the Justice Department’s research arm, the Bureau of Justice Statistics. "

So as a cop, you're unlikely to get charges brought against you.

If you do, you're only half as likely to get convicted.

Cops are scumbags.
They might not start they way, but they definitely all become that way.

And if you don't get corrupted; the rest'll harass you, stick you with filing paperwork, take your cruiser.

You're like a child Lantern.
You're naive as Hank Hill, I tell yuh h'what.

Like you can't understand that Power Corrupts. Cops have Power.
Therefore many cops become corrupted.

"What are you talking about Genji, no one would just go on the internet.. and LIE like that."

"What do you MEAN there's no toothfairy Genji?! Where did all my children baby teeth go then?!"

I think I'm making some headway here since you admitted that only SOME cops get corrupted.

lol

please talk with newtboy, perhaps your move to the right can do some good

If only that $500000 would come directly from the pockets of the 88 bad cops and not tax payers. It's disgusting that they commit crimes against citizens, then citizens pay for those crimes for them, and often they get nothing more than a paid vacation.

Wow, a progressive who's open-minded? That's crazy talk.

Seriously, just because you're ostensibly close-minded doesn't mean everyone else is.

Now maybe You can admit that you're SOMEwhat racist.

I would respect you as person a whole bunch more.

[pst. this implies i already have a basic respect for you as a human.
..even if you happen to be the dumb, racist kind]

Um...they can be sued individually in civil court...but it is more molla to sue an agency so most people go the greed-for-need approach. I am not taking sides here newtboy, just pointing out that it is possible as long as the right focus is applied.

I'm talking about the $2500 per inappropriate accessing of her information (which they did over 200 times). Since it's against department rules/policy, they should make the officer that does the action pay the fine personally instead of the way it's set up where the department pays for the officer's crime(s).
It seems like she's somehow not allowed to sue the department or officers for harassment or the others crimes, at least she's not doing that. (often, both the department and officer are legally shielded from responsibility for illegal actions) As I understood, the entire $500000 is ONLY about the accessing her license, and nothing is being done about the officers harassing, stalking, prank calling, threatening, intimidating, or otherwise behaving badly...nothing at all was mentioned in the article about ANY other charges...or really any charges at all for the intimidation. The only repercussion was TO HER, being forcibly moved and taken off street duty (demoted?). WTF?!?
If I ran the department, all 88 of those cops would be fired AND personally sued. It's terribly disappointing that they all seem to get off scott free, and she's still in reasonable fear for her life from the thugs in blue. If that's how they treat their own, how do these officers treat the public, certainly worse.

Genji, that must be indian lingo for He Who Never Passes Up An Opportunity to Call Someone a Racist

Then your problem is police recruitment.. pay cops $200k a year and you'll have an army of Jedi Knights. But we don't..

Oh the irony of this statement...

Yes, that's one of my problems with police, lax recruitment. They should do a better job screening applicants, far too many bullies make it through the process. The image they present only attracts the wrong kind of people, and even screens out better applicants (allegedly for anyone over 110 IQ for instance). The right kind of person wouldn't be accepted in the current cop culture (as this story illustrates clearly), and the right kind of people also wouldn't want to associate with them.

I think some officers do make that much on salary, but quite true it's not many. When you count the benefits they get though, they are not under paid in most cases. Most get free medical, life insurance, retirement, many other 'freebies', and incredible overtime, so looking at only base salary is not an honest assessment.
Where I live, $200000 is probably more than 5 times the average pay rate...in some areas it may be the average pay rate. In high cost of living areas, I agree, it would be right to pay them better, (but conversely, that means those in Detroit should be paid less for a more dangerous job...how to reconcile that?) but we should DEMAND better performance everywhere, with zero tolerance for abuse.

EDIT: It seems we could retrain ex-military for the job. They've proven they are willing to take MORE dangerous jobs for far less money ($20-30K last I heard). That's a possible win win, vets get a good job program, we get an improving police force...as long as the retraining and testing is thorough.

So why didn't any of these 88 see repercussions until so much later? Were they that stupid to think they'd get away with it?

Repercussions?!? You mean a written reprimand?!? That's all that was reported any of them 'saw', so in my eyes they did get away with it, some of them with no repercussion at all, some with a 'bad boy' followed with a tummy rub.

Probably belong to a big union. Democrats won't fight unions. Where I work, your ass would be grass.

also, newtboy still doesn't get it , re: his comment on police recruiting...cities don't hire bullies, it's the job that can turn you into a burned out wreck.

So if it's good cop on bad cop, it's okay, but bad cop on innocent civilian, that's okay as well..?

And yeah, Cenk is his name and he's had it for as long as TYT's shows have been up on sift (which you've obviously missed) and probably since birth. Mebbe you want him to produce his birth certificate?

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See, Lantern. This is a sober comment from a reasonable perspective.

It's okay, buddy. We all worry about losing our job sometimes.

It's an interesting insight into your fears & frustrations, I guess..

Do you feel burned out, Lantern?
Do you feel like your mind, body ..spirit.. have been wrecked?

Do you LOVE being a Law Enforcement Officer.. but also you feel very.. resentful or disgruntled or bitter.. about?

Are you upset about..?

- How you're mistrusted/hated as a Police Officer by a seemingly huge group of people in this country?

- How you're portrayed to be "Bullies, Bad guys" or "Thugs" in the news media?

- How ignorant some.. most.. people are about how rough it is being a cop?

Does all that stuff make you want to yell & scream sometimes?





Because that's precisely what's it's like for ALL minorities:
Women, LBGTQQ, Indigenous Peoples, People of Color

Why is that lantern? I wonder why that is? Do you know?

You "get that", right?

Are we on the same page here? Because..

I expect it has more to do with being regularly placed in dangerous and stressful situations, for which it the only viable long-term solution is the preemptive application of force. That brutalizes people, as in renders them brutal. How could it do anything else? It seems like everything else would follow from that, which in turn seems to follow from horrible policy decisions from there on up.

So is it a department rule? I know someone who had access to those or maybe similar records and looked up someone even though she knew she could get in trouble. I kind of doubt the anti union argument. I'd guess that the potential fines would be enough to put a regulation in place.

I think I see your problem here...you consider the preemptive application of force to -be- a viable long-term solution to something. Preemptive violence is not a viable solution, much less one viable for the long-term, and most especially not for those who are sworn to "protect and serve".

Violence begets violence in the long run, and the folks who have official sanction to use violence -must- be held to a higher standard than that to which we would hold criminals.