The other side of the London "riots"

The community gets together to clean up after the thieving hooligans, cheers the local law enforcement.

This is the kind of thing you don't see on the news, but should. Why give all the airtime to a bunch of lawless brats?

edit: more cleanup footage with commentary from participants here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/video/2011/aug/09/clapham-junction-cleanup-video
Yogisays...

This is a great thing and I support cleaning up your city absolutely. I disagree with simply "Lawless Brats" though. There's more to this story that as you mention, isn't being reported by the news.

Yogisays...

>> ^hpqp:

@Yogi: see the video below, it's the same street the night before. The people who wrecked this street were simply profiting from the situation to steal stuff, nothing more.
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There were people who profited during the Rodney King Riots...doesn't mean there wasn't a deeper story there. Even a deeper story than minorities vs the police. Why is that so hard for everyone to understand? Images can sometimes make things clearer and sometimes distort complex events by giving only a few angles.

I like how you add "nothing more" as if arguing what you state as utter fact is pointless. Sorry I'm coming into this with an open mind, not just going "No! Nothing will compromised my prejudices!"

hpqpsays...

@Yogi

At no point did I state that there is not some reason (not "excuse", as you validly point out in a comment on the subject) for the people in Tottenham to riot. This junction, however, was not the scene of rioting, only of looting, because no police were around (Google it: there are plenty of videos). So when I say they were doing "nothing more" than thieving, that is all I mean (and grammatically, that is all there is to infer from that expression in this sentence).

Yogisays...

>> ^hpqp:

@Yogi
At no point did I state that there is not some reason (not "excuse", as you validly point out in a comment on the subject) for the people in Tottenham to riot. This junction, however, was not the scene of rioting, only of looting, because no police were around (Google it: there are plenty of videos). So when I say they were doing "nothing more" than thieving, that is all I mean (and grammatically, that is all there is to infer from that expression in this sentence).


And I'm saying, you can't tell that from the videos...you have your opinion I have my much better one. I'm sorry there isn't room for you up here on my better opinion but you'll probably like it better in hell anyways...SATAN!!!

spoco2says...

Yeah, I'm afraid that no matter how 'just' the grievances are behind the 'cause' of the riots, it does in no way justify the pathetic, selfish, destructive behavior of those involved. It just doesn't.

Scenes like this do warm the heart though.

peggedbeasays...

there's even something deeper to the looting. like how all the worlds politicians and public official have been looting the public coffers and living off of bribes from corporations while gutting entitlements and vital social services. i don't doubt the looters are probably douchebags, but you can reap what you sew, governments.

>> ^hpqp:

@Yogi: see the video below, it's the same street the night before. The people who wrecked this street were simply profiting from the situation to steal stuff, nothing more.
edit: embed fail: http://videosift.com/video/News-Reporter-Confronts-London-Looters

Pprtsays...

I can't remember the last time I saw images from London without Hijabs and blacks. London is at least 30% nonwhite, but you wouldn't know it from this clip or from pictures of the cleanup.
>> ^peggedbea:

>> ^Pprt:
It's so... white. Are we sure this is London?

also, who in the FUCK upvoted this comment?!?!?! jesus christ.

hpqpsays...

I would be with you 100% if it was the governments/big corporations/banks who were reaping what they sow. But it's not. It's the locals who are losing their businesses, cars, homes... even lives. That's why I have nothing but despise for these thugs. The protest about Duggan's death was a peaceful march, but when night came the dregs of society (and not only poor society I might add) came out of the woodworks and took over, and it has been nothing but pathetic criminal opportunism since.

http://videosift.com/video/London-looters-don-t-give-a-f-ck-about-people-s-homes-burnin

>> ^peggedbea:

there's even something deeper to the looting. like how all the worlds politicians and public official have been looting the public coffers and living off of bribes from corporations while gutting entitlements and vital social services. i don't doubt the looters are probably douchebags, but you can reap what you sew, governments.
>> ^hpqp:
@Yogi: see the video below, it's the same street the night before. The people who wrecked this street were simply profiting from the situation to steal stuff, nothing more.
edit: embed fail: http://videosift.com/video/News-Reporter-Confronts-London-Looters


bcglorfsays...

I just want to second everything hpqp has been saying.

The rioters and looters are nothing better than opportunistic brats, and at worst, thugs and criminals.

There are plentiful reasons to be upset and angry with the government, establishment and big business. That does NOT make rioting and looting a justified response. Look to the Arab uprisings, where they are facing down a lot more than high taxes and corporate greed. They stared down dictators that routinely executed or disappeared everyone that dared confront them, and they did it through peaceful protest for as long as that was possible. You didn't see widespread rioting and looting, you saw peaceful protests up until the point the dictator started killing enough of them they had to fight or flee. How many of London's rioters and looters have died for the cause before resorting to violence and theft?

The rioters and looters are crying about their first world problems. Comparing that to peaceful protests against brutal dictatorship is demeaning to those struggling for REAL freedoms at a bitter price.

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