The Daily Show - Fired From Your Job For Gun Ownership?

Aasif Mandvi talks to Missouri state representative Wanda Brown about her crusade to protect Second Amendment rights and release gun owners from the shackles of persecution.

The dumb is strong with this one.
Porksandwichsays...

What's bad is a lot of the pro-gun people are whack-a-dos like her. That's what makes people anti-gun, you see a nutter on TV like her saying this stuff and you think......Do I really want her and her ilk being armed?

EMPIREsays...

>> ^Porksandwich:

Do I really want her and her ilk being armed?


well, in a way you do, since most victims of gunshots are killed with their own guns, so maybe this is actually evolution throwing us a curveball sayin': "you didn't think I could use firearms did you? "


SDGundamXsays...

>> ^Selektaa:

Lies.
http://gunsafe.org/position%20statements/Guns%20and%20crime.htm
>> ^EMPIRE:
>> ^Porksandwich:
Do I really want her and her ilk being armed?

well, in a way you do, since most victims of gunshots are killed with their own guns, so maybe this is actually evolution throwing us a curveball sayin': "you didn't think I could use firearms did you? "




As Mark Twain famously remarked, there are three types of lies: "lies, damned lies, and statistics." So I'll see your lies and I'll raise you some statistics.

During 2006--2007, firearm suicide and firearm homicide were the fourth and fifth leading causes of injury death in the United States, respectively. For youths aged 10--19 years, firearm homicide was the second leading cause and firearm suicide was the fifth leading cause of injury death nationally.

Read the rest for yourself here: http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6018a1.htm

I'd rather get my information fresh from the source (i.e. the CDC, which is where the above comes from) rather than a pro-gun ownership web site that's cherry-picking which facts about guns to report.

Selektaasays...

Fair enough. I typically don't count suicides in firearms deaths, and it's not just for "cherry picking" purposes. I believe that while some of those 34,000 people (honestly thats a surprising number) would be alive today if they didn't have access to a gun, the majority probably wouldn't.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate

Despite some of the loosest gun controls in the world, the US comes in decidedly mid-pack in worldwide suicide rates. While not having access to their first choice may dissuade some people, many will seek alternate methods.

http://www.who.int/bulletin/volumes/86/9/07-043489/en/index.html

While suicide by firearm is popular in the US, especially among males, other countries with much higher suicide rates gravitate toward other methods. Hanging, falls, poisoning, cutting, and something called "charcoal burning suicide." People are resourceful, no matter what is done to prevent it.

My "Lies" comment was made in reference to EMPIRE's comment that most gunshot deaths are from an owner's own guns, and if you remove suicides from the death counts, that is still patently false. Counting suicides, though, he is technically correct, so I apologize.

>> ^SDGundamX:

>> ^Selektaa:
Lies.
http://gunsafe.org/position%20statements/Guns%20and%20crime.htm
>> ^EMPIRE:
>> ^Porksandwich:
Do I really want her and her ilk being armed?

well, in a way you do, since most victims of gunshots are killed with their own guns, so maybe this is actually evolution throwing us a curveball sayin': "you didn't think I could use firearms did you? "



As Mark Twain famously remarked, there are three types of lies: "lies, damned lies, and statistics." So I'll see your lies and I'll raise you some statistics.
During 2006--2007, firearm suicide and firearm homicide were the fourth and fifth leading causes of injury death in the United States, respectively. For youths aged 10--19 years, firearm homicide was the second leading cause and firearm suicide was the fifth leading cause of injury death nationally.
Read the rest for yourself here: http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6018a1.htm
I'd rather get my information fresh from the source (i.e. the CDC, which is where the above comes from) rather than a pro-gun ownership web site that's cherry-picking which facts about guns to report.

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