Abstinence-only programs work great, because the states that use that method have abortion rates that are higher than the national average, thus giving teens a valuable lesson learned from the school of hard knocks. Compassionate conservatism at its finest.

waiting till 18... that's a tough one me thinks. because they tend to avoid having relationships until they're past 18, and now they're out of the game.

I used to think (abstinence = no dating) from the way my parents taught me.

Made things a lot difficult later on in college

I never saw the original PSA, was it really bad?

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Cleveland Steamer

(I didn't know)

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HAHAHAHA!!!!! "Don't be such a pussy." I FUCKING LOVE IT.

OMFG. I can't BELIEVE the ad that this spoofs! .... what the F*CK!?

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Dirty Sanchez

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Heh, I've already got one like that. It's green with brown letters, a picture of a boat, and it says, "Make way for the Cleveland Steamer." I love wearing it to school - I feel like I've gotten away with something. So far absolutely no one has known what it means.

There was another one at that store - Red with white letters, a picture of a donkey and a glass of punch, and it said, "Donkey punch - Goes down smooth!"

Fellas, fellas. The Cleveland Steamer went out of style back in '02, this video is proof that it's been relegated to the realm of awkward, elbow-y teenage experimentation and possibly overworked Japanese husbands' stress relief. The new scene is all up in this Angry Pirate business, ferreal.

the angry pirate and the dirty sanchez are just made up by 5th graders and have probably never been performed in real life, except in the porn industry.

> the dirty sanchez are just made up by 5th graders

omg they are all the rave here in Alaska, those are french fries with cheese on them, right? no? they are something else?

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pootine?

the angry pirate and the dirty sanchez are just made up by 5th graders and have probably never been performed in real life.

I'm pretty sure I have video evidence somewhere on my computer that says you're wrong. In a somewhat related note, I've stopped downloading random videos off IRC forever.

Usual disclaimers apply, I don't expect anyone's views to be changed by my comments, just expressing my opinion (whistling as I slip into my fire hazard suit)...

Sex is the most intimate moment that two people can share. It is so emotionally involved that the two people will always have a connection. break that connection by breaking up, and bad things can happen.

Why would you want to share such a special moment with anyone other than the person you're going to spend the rest of your life with? Why would you want to "sample" other people before you get married? You will always be comparing your life partner to those other experiences.

The abstinence message worked for me, and I couldn't be happier (one wife, one partner). I have friends that the message didn't work so well for, and they wish they could take it all back (bad breakups, single parents). Who needs the heartache? Who needs the comparison?

If the abstinence message has such a high failure rate, I have officially lost faith in mankind.

Ronin, distress caused by polygamy is a culture-bound phenomenon. It's neither innate nor inevitable. If two girls want to double up on one guy and all three consent, there's no reason to suppose that's immoral.

I didn't say it will happen, I said it can happen ("...bad things can happen."). Why risk it?

I can't imagine I'm in a minority of people that would be stuck wondering "am I as good as her previous partners?" Sure, thoughts of inferiority can be overcome, but it would be damn hard to shake the thought of "some other guy has seen and experienced my wife's holiest of holes."

Not if in your culture "holiest of holies" aren't holy.

@ronin165:
"Sex is the most intimate moment that two people can share. It is so emotionally involved that the two people will always have a connection."

What about prostitution? What about people who have sex just to have sex? Sex doesn't always involve some deep emotional bond.

"Why would you want to share such a special moment with anyone other than the person you're going to spend the rest of your life with? Why would you want to "sample" other people before you get married? You will always be comparing your life partner to those other experiences."

a) sex is not necessarily a special moment to everybody.
b) not everyone believes in marriage.
c) not everyone wants a life partner.
d) what's wrong with 'sampling'? variety is a wonder.

To each his/her own. I don't expect to change any opinions, but maybe for those few people with a conscience left...those who feel empty after giving their gift away in the heat of the moment...maybe they can see that there is another way, and can start fresh.

The pornification of our society makes me want to be a Hobbit.

Whatever...I'm done.

Ronin - you started with "to each his/her own..." and in the very next sentence you hope that people who have different views than you can find another way, and "start fresh." That's not the true spirit of "to each his own".

You know what makes me want to be a Hobbit? When someone declares "whatever" in the middle of what could potentially be an enlightening discussion.

@ronin165: "for those few people with a conscience left..."

are you implying that people who have any kind of sexual encounter that doesn't fit within your narrow moral idealism lack conscience? to put it mildly, that's just a smidge condescending.

you know what makes me want to be a hobbit? the possibility of getting in on some of that homoeroticism with sam and frodo! wooo!

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