Shoplifting Running Rampant

Casual shoplifting in California is forcing businesses to close after laws made it a misdemeanor to steal anything up to $950.
Mordhaussays...

https://abc7.com/shoplifting-video-san-francisco-walgreens-theft/10791421/

https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/16/us/san-francisco-shoplifting-walgreens/index.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/21/us/san-francisco-shoplifting-epidemic.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_California_Proposition_47

Since the passage, retail stores have reported a spike of 50 percent in shoplifting. In many cities, like San Francisco, it is almost ignored by the police because it is a waste of time to try to catch the suspect.

Walgreens and CVS have closed multiple locations in California cities because of the losses.

As much as @bobknight33 spams far right stuff, it is understandable to consider this suspect. But in this case, it is actually a major epidemic.

eric3579said:

Not buying into the description. I'd love to see some actual solid proof of what the description insinuates.

siftbotsays...

Promoting this video and sending it back into the queue for one more try; last queued Thursday, June 17th, 2021 5:20pm PDT - promote requested by Mordhaus.

BSRsays...

I kinda picture the thieves as big business and I picture closing down stores as people losing their homes which is also a major epidemic.

Mordhaussaid:

As much as @bobknight33 spams far right stuff, it is understandable to consider this suspect. But in this case, it is actually a major epidemic.

eric3579says...

Ugh, i just deleted 30 minutes of blah blah blah i had typed out. I just can't afford to get into. Having these back and forth type discussions just ramp up my anxiety I knew it was a bad idea to leave a comment. My bad. (and this is why i can't have nice things)

Still don't think the description holds water regarding that prop 47 is the implied cause for the situation.

Mordhaussaid:

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Mordhaussays...

Totally understand.

eric3579said:

Ugh, i just deleted 30 minutes of blah blah blah i had typed out. I just can't afford to get into. Having these back and forth type discussions just ramp up my anxiety I knew it was a bad idea to leave a comment. My bad. (and this is why i can't have nice things)

Still don't think the description holds water regarding that prop 47 is the implied cause for the situation.

newtboysays...

Nonsense. Utter nonsense.
"Steal whatever you want and it's no longer a crime." "Stealing is now allowed." Utter bullshit. Stealing a steak is no longer a felony, it's still a crime. Repeat offenders can be charged with felonies for petty theft. Groups can be individually charged with the entire amount the group steals. Going back repeatedly to steal more doesn't reset the amount stolen. Just so much hyper exaggeration and outright *lies in this anti-California hit piece. What this stopped was 17 year olds being charged with felonies and as adults for stealing one $1 taco, like my friend was in the 80's.

Hilarious they denounce this as causing "violence in America" when the reason it passed was non violent petty criminals were filling the prisons, causing violent criminals to get reduced or no sentences. It was passed to combat violence in America. It does not effect the penalty for any crime involving violence, and frees up space to incarcerate violent criminals.

They lied so many times in this video, in so many ways. Is there a problem, yes. Is prop 47 the main cause? Absolutely not. Is theft not a crime in California?
No, it's absolutely a crime still today.

Poverty in high cost of living areas are the main cause. Lax policing, only wanting to go after felonies because it helps their careers is another. Prison overcrowding is another. Little security in stores with expensive easily resellable small items in bad/impoverished neighborhoods is another. This is not just a California or Bay Area issue, these group store invasions have been a regular occurrence nation wide for years if not decades.

Odd how these people love to bemoan all the anti business laws in California, but don't want to recognize that California is the biggest, most robust economy in America, the fifth largest in the world if it were a country, with the second largest growth in the world if it were a country, only beaten by China in growth. Also hilarious that, when compared with TOTAL taxation, average residents of Texas ($60-$80k per year) pay MORE in taxes than the same earning level in California.
Also hilarious that, while many if not most states are sliding deeper in debt, California has a $70-$80BILLION dollar surplus. ...but by all means, right wingers, move out, it's a failed state. 🤦‍♂️

siftbotsays...

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