Shocking.

scary.

murrica

The news story says the kid (caucasian) went into the room with a shotgun with one round---intending to kill himself in front of the classroom---and the coach disarmed him---and then---quite compassionately---held and sat with the kid for the next 6 minutes until the police arrived.

The kid got a 36 month sentence of probation---he clearly needed help--I hope he gets it.

The Coach's interview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7uP8SjZJu8

Last week, a local high school's students tackled a fellow student who had a handgun in class. Crazy.

Yeah, maybe I'm lacking compassion, but fuck compassion. You bring a gun to a classroom, your freedom is forfeit. Give him all the care you want to, apart from society. It's stupid to risk countless lives and loves of people who aren't deranged to coddle the feelings of one who is.
He'll be back.

I agree. His plan was to traumatize the entire class with his in your face suicide....assuming they have the story correct.
Pretending he was only going to harm himself, so deserves compassion, is not being honest or rational, imo.
I'm glad no one was hurt, but he definitely intended to severely hurt everyone in that classroom emotionally. I would hazard a guess that he expected some of them to be traumatized enough to follow his example. In school suicides often lead to more suicides.

Good thing he was stopped in time. Maybe saving one life will lead to saving many.

Funny thing about compassion. What you think is meant for others is REALLY meant for you.

Without hostility, I gotta be honest here: I don't really know what you're trying to say. My best guess is, "Treating him with compassion is good for [me]." In this case, at least, I disagree. If I were immortal and/or striving for sainthood, perhaps. But I have one life with limited time, as do those I love and seek to protect. Those who are in search of said sainthood may care for this person all they wish; and may they do it away from society and the rest of us who choose life.

It is foolish to issue probation to someone who brought a loaded gun to class. They've already demonstrated intent to harm and thus should have the option/means to do so again removed.

I'm all for the compassion shown by the teacher, but I'm with you about the sentence. I think it's not compassionate to let him off with just probation, neither for him nor his classmates. It's imperative that kids learn actions have consequences, serious actions have serious consequences, and imo probation hardly seems like any consequence at all unless there's also lots of community service AND mandated counseling. Even with both it seems minimal considering what he attempted. I would have included at least a few weekends in jail were I his judge.

What if that kid was one of the people you love and seek to protect?

Re-read what you said and keep this question in mind.