To imply that not having a ID to vote racist is BS.

Everyone of age has an ID.


You need an ID for nearly anything important.
Buying
Smokes,
Liquor,
Airplane tickets

Getting a job
Getting a Gun
To drive
To get a passport
Buying groceries and paying with a check.
Buying some forms of medicine

Opening a bank account
Apply for food stamps
Apply for welfare
Apply for Medicaid/Social Security
Apply for unemployment
Rent/buy a house
Drive/buy/rent a car
Get married


This false argument is brought up by Democrats every election.

This comment is by far, your best composition yet, Bob. Looks great. Nice and neat.

As far as content and facts are concerned, newtboy will grade you on that.

EDIT:

It made me laugh that you listed, "Buying Smokes and Liquor" first under the heading "You need an ID for nearly anything important."

Good one! LOL!

Just as incorrect as always, at least you're consistent.

1) All those things aren't rights, voting is. To remove a constitutional right should take more that a racist whim or the lack of a document. That should end your argument right there, but rationality and understanding my country's constitution isn't your strong suit.

2) buying smokes or liquor....not if you're over 25 or know a place.

3) getting a job....nope, only to get non cash job or benefits

4) getting a gun....not if it's a private sale

5)renting a house....nope, not true at all

6)getting married....not common law or religious marriage

7) I doubt you have an honest clue what's required to receive public assistance, but it's not a driver's license

Poor people don't do much of the rest of what you mention, they use cash, don't own a car, and don't travel.

These false excuses for violating the constitution and placing targeted obstacles in the path of mostly minorities to keep them from voting are brought to you by the anti voting rights party, Republicans, every election since voter protection was lifted and they could legally go after minorities voting rights again.
Odd, they weren't an issue before the court removed the coverage formula, making it nigh impossible to enforce voting rights.....
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_Rights_Act_of_1965

...the reason being, had the right implied this was their plan, or even a concern of theirs, the supreme court would have ruled that the protections are still needed and not removed said "coverage formula", which would bar most states from enacting any voting requirements, as they had historically proven and been ruled to be blatantly racially motivated.

Since that decision, republican led legislatures have tried everything but reinstating literacy tests to disenfranchise minorities. Voter id laws and voter purges based on minor clerical errors (errors made by the same people who then decide the error makes the registration invalid, errors that happen 3/4 of the time to minorities in areas with less than 30% minority populations, while whites in the same areas are 1/4 the errors caught, but almost 3/4 the population) these purely Republican sponsored laws are blatantly targeting minorities because Republicans don't represent minorities so don't expect their votes.

*discard

Very nice newtboy. Your restraint is admirable.

No harsh personal insults or name calling. Just facts.

There is iron in your words of truth.

Rights?

You need a license to Drive and it is a "right" Well the right to travel.

You need a license to drive because it's a privilege . You have the right to travel.

Gotta love him for that. He's the guy you'd want to copy test answers from in school if you didn't pay attention in class or didn't do your homework.

You know, because you were busy doing "important" things like smoking cigarettes and drinking liquor.

Bwaahahaha. I'm the resident troll, says the person who spouts insane right wing propaganda and insults on what they call a liberal site, and is almost always wrong on the facts.
I would hope to appear as a troll to such a person.
I found a lot wrong with your post....so did you looking at your response.
Btw, you can travel just fine without an id or license, driving is not a right.
I'm a resident "right wing fact" checker....one of many. Hilarious you think fact checkers are trolls....that says far more about you than it does about me.

Edit: Oh yeah, I get it now, fact checkers are trolls to right wingers, because facts are for liberals.

Lol.
I never did homework or paid attention in class either.
My teachers insisted I only did well on tests because I cheated, so they separated me from the class for a test....the class average went down a full grade, not me. After that I never had to turn in homework.
On my binder I wrote clearly "I learn by osmosis" to warn my teachers....it actually seemed true.

Go travel to work and get pulled over with out an ID and see what happens. Claim you Constitutional rights then call me and I'll post your bail

You can not ideally travel in USA with out an ID.
Walk to work
to the store
walk with your date to the movies

On paper the right to travel is good in reality you can not move about without a vehicle and hence you need a ID


Unless you vehicle is a horse

Or a bus, train(subway) ,uber, bike, ride share or other form of private/public transport which a significant amount of people use exclusively.

Facepalm
Bob, you implied, then actually said driving a car is a guaranteed right like voting, now you want to pivot away from that stupidity and hope you won't get called out on the bait and switch of your failed argument.
Just admit you were wrong. Stop the mental gymnastics trying to twist your way out of your ridiculous factually deficient argument....you aren't good at them.

This latest ridiculousness has already been utterly decimated above, it was a really poorly thought out ploy you tried. So sad.

Are you really so deluded that you believe every adult in my country has a car and license to operate it? It's certainly not the case in your country.

I removed double spaces between some words and a total of 4 needless spaces at the beginning of sentences 2, 3, and 5 making them flush left.

Combined lines 2 and 3 into one line and replaced "to" with "or" and added periods since you started out that way.

Made the last sentence into 2.

I feel like I just gave you a haircut.


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You cannot ideally travel in USA without an ID.

Walk to work or the store.

Walk with your date to the movies.

On paper the right to travel is good. In reality you cannot move about without a vehicle and hence you need an ID.


Unless you vehicle is a horse.

I did for years....I rode my bike 35 miles a day between home, school, and work. I got pulled over without ID, then went on my way without issue.

"Travel" is a different word from "drive"....that's why they are spelled and pronounced differently. You're sounding like one of those idiotic "Freemen" who think they can declare personal sovereignty....they always claim a right to travel without ID means any type of traveling including driving and flying on airplanes, it doesn't.

So this boils down to a discrimination of minorities.

So glad of you to be their champion. That you need to look down and these class of citizen that you must intervene.

I think higher of minorities. They are my equal. I don't look down in pity as you do. I believe minorities can find a way to obtain an ID. Its not that hard or expensive.

I'll ignore your un-intentional racism and chalk it up to you being miss informed by main stream media. No hard feelings, newt. Your are not alone.

Republicans want ID laws so only AMERICANS vote. Democrats do not want ID laws. Hence to allow ILLEGALS to vote. Democrats don't care about minorities, just votes.

I don't travel TO work. I'm AT work 24 hrs. a day, 6 days week. I'm getting paid right now to reply to you. Someone would literally have to die to pull me away from replying to you right now. (not a compliment, just fact)

Then I will travel to the scene, pick up the deceased and take it just shy of its "final destination."

If I should happen to get pulled over for going 10 mph over the speed limit, the officer would gladly let me go or give me a police escort depending on the situation.

It is my job and a privilege to do my job which includes driving. As I stated earlier, it is also my right to travel as a licensed driver.

I also have verifiable proof of my pristine driving record.

Post my bail. I'm not falling that old trick again.

You replied to yourself here....likely because this wasn't meant for me, as your terrible English, impossibly bad for an American, would tip us off that you're not an American and are nothing but another Russian troll stumping for Trump, willing to spout any nonsense no matter how it contradicts reality. Really, Bobski, if you want to be taken seriously, you need to learn English better than the Nigerian princes who need your help with international banking.
*facepalm

You must be completely insane if you think protecting a targeted group of American citizens from clear attacks against their constitutional rights is the racist move, but trying to remove their constitutional rights, that's not.

You are apparently willfully ignorant, so you have zero idea what poor people, who are mostly minorities, face. I have been one, living in East Palo Alto in the late 80's. When you work 16 hour days +3 hours on the bus getting there just to scrape by with zero savings, asking them to spend a full day at the dmv and a voting tax of $50+ (the cost of a license), you make the right to vote conditional on having a day off, the required documentation for a license/ID, and $50 to spare. Make getting a license/ID free and under 5 min online, you might have a point. As it stands, you're just being intentionally dense and trying to hide from the obvious, clear, unambiguous racist nature of ALL voter tests. There's a reason the states implementing these laws were precluded from making voter laws before 2011.....they had been found to be unconstitutionally and blatantly racist by the supreme court.

Republicans want id laws to disenfranchise minorities because they don't represent minorities and don't expect their votes, they're clear and open about it behind closed doors, have been since the Southern Strategy, and it's 100% obvious when you look at their implementation, they ALL effect minorities at a rate 4+ times over whites in areas where whites are 3/4 the population....that's by design, they have been repeatedly caught testing to ensure those results when crafting the laws.

Illegals don't vote, that's nonsense you got from the liar in Chief with not a shred of evidence that a single one successfully voted after his 2 year red herring investigation that wasted (tens of?) millions of dollars over something he made up to excuse his losing the election by 3000000+- votes. It's pure bullshit, you and we know it, that's why you never heard the results of his investigation.

Today, Trump declared publicly he's a proud nationalist.....another word for neo Nazi. There goes Republican's humanity.
He's also added more to the deficit than anyone ever, during a period of growth! Obama did better, consistently reducing the deficit, during a recession! So much for fiscal responsibility.
Now Republicans have organized and paid central Americans to march towards America to rile up their base and blame democrats without evidence, knowing under 100 will even be allowed to apply for asylum and none allowed entry. Any semblance of honesty gone, fear and hatred of anyone "different", that's all the right has left.
I'm guessing you're still on board, because nothing but tribe matters to you, not truth, not rationality, not even supporting a proud Nazi.

Trump Stumper. LOL!

Quick! Get the rights!