This is a subconscious reveal, not a simple flub. The republicans don't plan to put Romney in the white house. They know they're going to lose the election. But Paul will become known and be their candidate for 2016, when they'll make a serious bid to win.

haha! I have to admit. I didn't catch the flub in the title. I thought it was simply a sift talking about the VP pick. Then I hear Romney introduce him as the president and I go wtf?

and now @budzos's post makes a lot more sense

I dunno though, I think everyone thought Palin was going to be the next candidate. I sure as hell didn't think Romney would come back for more.

But to think Paul is a serious VP or a serious candidate for POTUS in 2016 is a stretch. At best, he's Sarah Palin lite. He may not be the super-gaffe machine that Palin was, but his Ayn Rand worship is just as outdated and outlandish.

When Republicans lose in November, they're going to have to have some serious soul searching. Doubling down on Obama-hate got them nowhere...and it's going to cost them the election just like in 2008. When even McCain had to say enough was enough and defend Obama against the extremist nutbags, that tells you how far gone the right is. I think it's very interesting that we haven't heard a peep out of McCain this cycle. the vitriol is even worse than it was in 2008 and if he had to say enough back then, I can only imagine what he thinks of it now. I'd love to hear his opinion on the birthers.

And in all seriousness, I hope Obama takes good care of his secret service people, it wouldn't shock me in the least if there was an assassination attempt in his second term.

Doesn't seem like a "Saran Palin lite" could dismantle Obamacare and give Obama a thorough drubbing at his own health care summit:



Paul Ryan is a serious contender for VP who can more than hold his own, and picking him is very saavy as it will redirect the national conversation back to the economy and Obamas failed policies. I also feel sorry for Joe Biden when he has to meet him in debate this fall.



>> ^VoodooV:

haha! I have to admit. I didn't catch the flub in the title. I thought it was simply a sift talking about the VP pick. Then I hear Romney introduce him as the president and I go wtf?
and now @budzos's post makes a lot more sense
I dunno though, I think everyone thought Palin was going to be the next candidate. I sure as hell didn't think Romney would come back for more.
But to think Paul is a serious VP or a serious candidate for POTUS in 2016 is a stretch. At best, he's Sarah Palin lite. He may not be the super-gaffe machine that Palin was, but his Ayn Rand worship is just as outdated and outlandish.
When Republicans lose in November, they're going to have to have some serious soul searching. Doubling down on Obama-hate got them nowhere...and it's going to cost them the election just like in 2008. When even McCain had to say enough was enough and defend Obama against the extremist nutbags, that tells you how far gone the right is. I think it's very interesting that we haven't heard a peep out of McCain this cycle. the vitriol is even worse than it was in 2008 and if he had to say enough back then, I can only imagine what he thinks of it now. I'd love to hear his opinion on the birthers.
And in all seriousness, I hope Obama takes good care of his secret service people, it wouldn't shock me in the least if there was an assassination attempt in his second term.

If you watched or listened to the whole thing, he makes a joke about the mistake just as Ryan is about to start his comments.

Eh, it's an easy mistake to make. Romney has probably heard that introduction 1000 times by now. Because apparently that kind of swaggering confidence is required of all political candidates here.

I'm just curious why Ryan didn't run for president if he's interested in VP. Surely most republicans would prefer a flipped ticket. Maybe the party leaders learned from the previous administration that it's easier to have a sort of puppet master VP who is the brains behind the operations, but can delegate the PR chores to the president.

Do you ever listen to yourself? Do you think Jesus would condemn healthcare? Oh, right. If you believe in Christ all will be fine and dandy. I bet you believe Jesus was white because you saw a stained glass window that proved it. Buzz off with your ignorance.

Do you know anything about the world that is not regurgitated bullshit from the most corrupt media in the world? I doubt it. Go play outside.

>> ^shinyblurry:

Doesn't seem like a "Saran Palin lite" could dismantle Obamacare and give Obama a thorough drubbing at his own health care summit:

Paul Ryan is a serious contender for VP who can more than hold his own, and picking him is very saavy as it will redirect the national conversation back to the economy and Obamas failed policies. I also feel sorry for Joe Biden when he has to meet him in debate this fall.

>>

So in other words, strawman arguments and ad hominem attacks are your idea of an intelligent conversation. Bravo.

>> ^shagen454:

Do you ever listen to yourself? Do you think Jesus would condemn healthcare? Oh, right. If you believe in Christ all will be fine and dandy. Buzz off with your ignorance.
Do you know anything about the world that is not regurgitated bullshit from the most corrupt media in the world? I doubt. Go play outside.

I don't know why you posted that video @shinyblurry as the video contradicts your point. There is no dismantling of the AHA (grow up and call it by it's proper name you fucking child) Ryan agreed there needs to be reform and he appears to have put forth some legitimate concerns. But there is no dismantling, If he wants to fix parts of AHA, then more power to him.

Healthcare should not be a for-profit system. Gov't has a vested interest in keeping its citizens healthy and happy. It's one thing to take care of our doctors and reward them for their service and knowledge. It's another to make them and the insurance companies obscenely wealthy at the cost of our well-being.

Funny how your video conveniently cuts off Obama's response. Too afraid of the opposition I see.

Dismantling AHA is going backwards. AHA is here. Deal with it, you and your Insurance lobbyist pals lost. You have some legitimate concerns? Great..awesome. I know some Republicans who have actual rational concerns and they ought to be addressed so you don't even have united support against the AHA even in your own ranks. Republicans don't fall in line with your warped ideology anymore. And when Romney loses in November I hope the adults of your party take it back from the mental midgets who refuse to have an adult conversation and bet against this nation.

Ryan wants to gut medicare. Thanks for gift-wrapping Florida for Obama.

If Jesus ever came back from the dead he would not be happy. At the top of his list would be conservative fundamentalists who try to inspire ignorance, hatred and intolerance. They teach obedience to greedy corrupt religious icons and politicians that worship the dollar bill. And people like bobknight, QM and SB vote their own people into a path of hate and submission. Good luck fighting the good fight.... PFFFFFFFFF. Think for your fucking selves for once.

So tell me then SB, what is wrong with healthcare? Lets begin our conversation.

>> ^shinyblurry:

So in other words, strawman arguments and ad hominem attacks are your idea of an intelligent conversation. Bravo.
>> ^shagen454:
Do you ever listen to yourself? Do you think Jesus would condemn healthcare? Oh, right. If you believe in Christ all will be fine and dandy. Buzz off with your ignorance.
Do you know anything about the world that is not regurgitated bullshit from the most corrupt media in the world? I doubt. Go play outside.

The hypocrisy is strong with this one!

>> ^shinyblurry:
So in other words, strawman arguments and ad hominem attacks are your idea of an intelligent conversation. Bravo.

I don't know why you posted that video @shinyblurry as the video contradicts your point. There is no dismantling of the AHA (grow up and call it by it's proper name you fucking child) Ryan agreed there needs to be reform and he appears to have put forth some legitimate concerns. But there is no dismantling, If he wants to fix parts of AHA, then more power to him

My point was to contradict your claim that Paul Ryan is a "Sarah Palin lite". Yes, he did dismantle a primary rationale behind Obamacare which is that health care reform is budget reform. Ryan clearly demonstrated that it is exactly the opposite as Obamacare uses shady accounting practices and steals nearly a trillion dollars from Medicare to fund itself. It is a disaster for our budget, creating another gigantic government entitlement when we can't afford the ones we have.

Healthcare should not be a for-profit system. Gov't has a vested interest in keeping its citizens healthy and happy. It's one thing to take care of our doctors and reward them for their service and knowledge. It's another to make them and the insurance companies obscenely wealthy at the cost of our well-being.

We are both agreed that the system as it is is broken and needs reforming. We are disagreeing that bigger government is the answer.

Funny how your video conveniently cuts off Obama's response. Too afraid of the opposition I see.

The video had nothing to do with the argument, only to counter your point that Paul Ryan is some sort of intellectual light weight.

Dismantling AHA is going backwards. AHA is here. Deal with it, you and your Insurance lobbyist pals lost. You have some legitimate concerns? Great..awesome. I know some Republicans who have actual rational concerns and they ought to be addressed so you don't even have united support against the AHA even in your own ranks. Republicans don't fall in line with your warped ideology anymore. And when Romney loses in November I hope the adults of your party take it back from the mental midgets who refuse to have an adult conversation and bet against this nation.

I'm an independent and I don't endorse everything the republican party does. They agree more with my values since the far left took over the democratic party, but I have actually supported democrats, both locally and nationally, in the past.

If you think Obamas re-election is in the bag then you are in denial of reality. Obama is showing some very poor numbers in many polls, and if he does win, it will be by the skin of his teeth.

Ryan wants to gut medicare. Thanks for gift-wrapping Florida for Obama.

Romney has gone public with the fact that he isn't necessarily embracing all of the elements of the Ryan plan, but will introduce his own plan. That includes medicare:

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/08/internal-talking-points-romney-will-push-his-own-budget-proposalnot-paul-ryans-plan/




>> ^VoodooV

He rose from the dead 2000 years ago. When Jesus comes back to judge the world, everyone will have something to answer for. What matters is whether you have forgiveness of sins, and a personal relationship with Him.

>> ^shagen454:

If Jesus ever came back from the dead he would not be happy. At the top of his list would be conservative fundamentalists who try to inspire ignorance, hatred and intolerance. They teach obedience to greedy corrupt religious icons and politicians that worship the dollar bill. And people like bobknight, QM and SB vote their own people into a path of hate and submission. Good luck fighting the good fight.... PFFFFFFFFF. Think for your fucking selves for once.

I don't have anything against healthcare, and I am all for healthcare reform. I just happen to think Obamacare is a terrible bill which will have terrible repercussions on our economy, and ultimately on our health care system as a whole.

>> ^shagen454:

So tell me then SB, what is wrong with healthcare? Lets begin our conversation.

Comment hidden because you are ignoring dag.(show it anyway)

Didn't this exact same flub happen last election? I'm getting a déjà vu. I think it was Obama introducing Biden though.

OK SB. Why do you feel that way?


>> ^shinyblurry:

I don't have anything against healthcare, and I am all for healthcare reform. I just happen to think Obamacare is a terrible bill which will have terrible repercussions on our economy, and ultimately on our health care system as a whole.
>> ^shagen454:
So tell me then SB, what is wrong with healthcare? Lets begin our conversation.

@shinyblurry

I never said Ryan was an intellectual lightweight. Are you projecting your own fears again? Ryan is Palin lite in the sense that the Romney campaign knows it is losing so once again, they're making a risky gamble. Just like Palin was a gamble.

I also never said big gov't was the solution. Again, you seem to be projecting. Besides, it's funny how selective the right is about big gov't. they don't seem to mind a obscenely large military budget and they don't seem to mind gov't intruding on reproductive rights and issues of sexual orientation.

Gov't efficiency has nothing to do with size alone. big gov't can be inefficient and so can small. just because you cut the size of gov't doesn't magically make it efficient. on the other end of the spectrum, you've got a gov't that doesn't have the resources to do what they need to do..hence inefficiency and people get pissed when needed services are cut. Instead of this knee jerk, one-trick pony of small gov't. Efficient gov't actually has to do with compromise, and intelligence. Two things the right doesn't seem to be interested in.

your problems with big gov't has nothing to do with actual efficiency, it's about ideology.

That's the problem with Romney's campaign:

Romney: I'm running on my business experience, but we can't discuss my business experience. I'm also picking a VP that is notable only because of his budget...a budget I disagree with.

Ryan is a desparate attempt to rally the tea party. Problem is, the tea party isn't as big as they think they are. add to that Romney and his VP pick have this pesky effect of rallying the independents and women and moderates against them.

Doubling down and going further right isn't going to win the election. It didn't last time.

Righto!

>> ^dag:

Didn't this exact same flub happen last election? I'm getting a déjà vu. I think it was Obama introducing Biden though.

upvote for the tags

I don't see a *wtf

Unbelievable ... wait, no it isn't =oD

Adding video to channels (Wtf) - requested by PlayhousePals.

Bullshit.>> ^shinyblurry:

He rose from the dead 2000 years ago. When Jesus comes back to judge the world, everyone will have something to answer for. What matters is whether you have forgiveness of sins, and a personal relationship with Him.
>> ^shagen454:
If Jesus ever came back from the dead he would not be happy. At the top of his list would be conservative fundamentalists who try to inspire ignorance, hatred and intolerance. They teach obedience to greedy corrupt religious icons and politicians that worship the dollar bill. And people like bobknight, QM and SB vote their own people into a path of hate and submission. Good luck fighting the good fight.... PFFFFFFFFF. Think for your fucking selves for once.

I've been a little worried about how this election would go.

I'm not anymore.

Randroid Ryan isn't going to end up a laughingstock like Palin did -- he can actually speak English as if he actually graduated from high school!

But picking Ryan is going to make it impossible for Romney to pretend to be interested in anything but robbing from the poor, disabled, and the elderly so that he can give truckloads of money to the extremely wealthy (like himself).

Krugman pretty much called this one right from the start: this is the Galt/Gekko ticket now.

SB still has not responded with why he thinks our healthcare reform is bad for the economy. I do not see how this can be true... Obamas healthcare reform is a crap start but at least its a beginning. A beginning to get back into the top twenty charts for healthcare. You think this is a great nation SB? Look where our leading innovation has gotten compared to European countries. Jesus would protect the people. Right wing nutters are all about brutality.