Rick Santorum Suspends His Campaign

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Day In 100 Seconds for April 10, 2012
ponceleonsays...

>> ^EvilDeathBee:

That's a pity. People might actually VOTE for Romney! With Santorum, we had nothing to worry about


I think this kind of thinking was actually quite dangerous. There are a LOT of people who are going to vote republican just because they want to vote against Obama. To assume that they wouldn't have voted in a crazy like Santorum is just as naive as when people thought that Bush Jr. couldn't win.

Winstonfield_Pennypackersays...

I think this kind of thinking was actually quite dangerous. There are a LOT of people who are going to vote republican just because they want to vote against Obama.

The logic being that people will take an unknown crazy person over a KNOWN crazy person like Obama. Everyone knows who Obama really is now, as opposed to 2008 when they did no fact checking and just imagined up whatever they wanted and filled the empty husk that is Obama's soul with whatever BS they dreamed he would be. But after 3+ years of his "policies", everyone knows just who this crazed leftist mouth-breather is today - so they'll vote for Santorum or even Ron Paul over the waste of skin we've currently got. Hey - they're 3 years late to the Fact Party, but the GOP will take 'em.

Independants like me who knew thier head from a hole in the ground didn't vote for Obama last time around. This time around Obama is in massive trouble with Independants and Moderates and he becomes more and more shrill every passing day.

EvilDeathBeesays...

>> ^ponceleon:

>> ^EvilDeathBee:
That's a pity. People might actually VOTE for Romney! With Santorum, we had nothing to worry about

I think this kind of thinking was actually quite dangerous. There are a LOT of people who are going to vote republican just because they want to vote against Obama. To assume that they wouldn't have voted in a crazy like Santorum is just as naive as when people thought that Bush Jr. couldn't win.


Firstly, ever heard of Swing voters? You know, people who aren't aligned with either Republican or Democrat and may vote based on candidate.
Secondly, "dangerous"? What like looking into the mirror and saying "Bloody Mary" three times... or worse, "Biggie Smalls"? But I do forget voting isn't mandatory in your crazy country
Third and most importantly, it was a joke

Quboidsays...

Serious question - do Americans respond well to things like that flag in the background?

If David Cameron came out and spoke in front of a massive Union Jack, I and many others would think it looks embarrassing, like he's trying too hard. The flags at the side would be fine; personally I could live without them but that's within the realms of each to their own.

Crosswordssays...

>> ^Quboid:

Serious question - do Americans respond well to things like that flag in the background?
If David Cameron came out and spoke in front of a massive Union Jack, I and many others would think it looks embarrassing, like he's trying too hard. The flags at the side would be fine; personally I could live without them but that's within the realms of each to their own.


More like they respond poorly to its absence. Back in the '08 election Obama said he wouldn't wear a flag pin on his lapel because words and actions should speak louder than hollow symbols. It didn't take him long to start wearing it again, and as far as I know he still does.

xxovercastxxsays...

>> ^Quboid:

Serious question - do Americans respond well to things like that flag in the background?


Speaking only for myself, I find it rather tacky. We have the flag attached to so many selfish purposes on a daily basis that it took until my mid-twenties for me to realize that it's a symbol that should give me a sense of pride or value.

I do suppose it's fitting for a presidential race, but I'd rather something more subdued -- the traditional label pin is fine. Plastering every news room, pro athlete, domestic beer, Ford/Chevy truck, rock band, country singer and golden age comic hero with stars and stripes has left me with a serious case of patriotism fatigue.

Quboidsays...

Thanks @xxovercastxx and @Crosswords.

I've heard it said that Americans treat their flag like we (British) treat our monarchy, in that they're both the symbol of our nations. However, I don't know of anyone who particularly cares about our monarchy; I know there are people love them and a few hate them but most just shrug our shoulders and get on with real life. It seems that the American flag isn't treated with this apathy, but perhaps I only hear about nut-bugs (to varying degrees) because the 99% of normal Americans aren't newsworthy.

Obama's flag-pin is case in point: I heard about that, probably here on the Sift, and it seemed like half of America was up in arms at this "disrespectful" gesture, as if it mattered a damn. I realised that this was probably a small handful of far-right morons who generate a disproportionate amount of noise (e.g. Fox News). I've no idea actually how large a portion of the American public cared about his lapel.

Not that Britain doesn't have our own seemingly pointless moral/patriotic mobs, for example, the arbitrary whinge about not having war memorial symbols on England's football kit, which because a huge issue last November despite not having been an issue once before. It was a big deal in the shittier newspapers but if you'd polled the general population, I doubt many would have had a strong opinion.

FWIW, there's no actual patriotism in having a flag outside your house or in your press conference. Patriotism is personal sacrifice for national benefit, and flying a flag is neither. But this is a whole other kettle of plankton.

xxovercastxxsays...

>> ^Quboid:

I've no idea actually how large a portion of the American public cared about his lapel.


Nobody I personally know, including Republicans, gave a shit about the lapel pin. Even the biggest wingnuts I know were only concerned with his policies, even if they were totally misinformed about them.

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