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dannym3141says...

Either the biker wasn't looking or he thought of a way of teaching that moron a lesson by making him knock him off, cos his brakes are wired up. I don't know what roads look like in america, but is it possible to get on a bridge like that by accident? Or rather, how possible is it? On the youtubes it says that the police won't do anything!

newtboysays...

It did seem the bike had plenty of room to not be hit. Perhaps the biker saw an easily won lawsuit here and took advantage.
Most bridges here in America have barriers of one kind or another that would make this impossible, but maybe not all of them. I would guess the car at least jumped a curb to get there, and maybe removed a traffic barrier too. You would have to be completely clueless and mentally impared to do this by accident, IMO.
I can't fathom why the police wouldn't go after the driver. They were obviously and completely in the wrong, even if there was a legitimate reason for the car to be there (which is highly questionable) they were going way too fast for such a small enclosed pedestrian walkway.

dannym3141said:

Either the biker wasn't looking or he thought of a way of teaching that moron a lesson by making him knock him off, cos his brakes are wired up. I don't know what roads look like in america, but is it possible to get on a bridge like that by accident? Or rather, how possible is it? On the youtubes it says that the police won't do anything!

Paybacksays...

Some of those kind of areas merely have a pole sitting in a hole that maintenance crews can remove to gain access with their vehicles.

If that was removed and the driver was particularly stupid/ignorant/blind...

dannym3141says...

So either he's too stupid to be driving or he did it to beat traffic in which case he's too stupid to be driving.

Paybacksaid:

Some of those kind of areas merely have a pole sitting in a hole that maintenance crews can remove to gain access with their vehicles.

If that was removed and the driver was particularly stupid/ignorant/blind...

shatterdrosesays...

Surprised this wasn't already up here . . .

But anyway. To answer above questions:

Police are fighting jurisdiction. Because it's a car on a pedestrian bike way, there's lots of people involved. For instance, we have a road here in Orlando that's owned by the state (FDOT), the city and OUC, our power company. So if someone was to wreck and hit a power pole, all 3 would be involved. If a pedestrian was hit while on the sidewalk, FDOT or OPD would be called and if they wanted to bicker about it, they could endlessly. That's essentially what's happening here, because whomever takes responsibility can be sued.

As for why the biker didn't see the car: when we climb (not saying that was a hard climb, but I don't know her skill level) we tend to not look too far ahead of us. In a case like this, it's almost perfect for us to glance, see no walkers, and then mash the pedals up the hill. Head down, aero and aggressive, gives us the most efficient power usage.

The car, well, I can't attest to how much of a dumbass you must be to not realize you are no longer on the road.

ChaosEnginesays...

Ok, the car driver is an asshole. Let's just take that as a given.

But FFS, how is the guy making the video still alive? We first see the car at ~0:18, he doesn't even seem to react until nearly 3 seconds later. Average human reaction time is about 1/4 second so he is TWELVE times slower. In fact, it almost looks like he pulls away from the barrier.

articiansays...

This is what I was wondering as well. He takes way too long to do anything, it was almost like he was looking away, or at a cellphone, or something like that. Only at the last second does he yell out. Very odd.

ChaosEnginesaid:

Ok, the car driver is an asshole. Let's just take that as a given.

But FFS, how is the guy making the video still alive? We first see the car at ~0:18, he doesn't even seem to react until nearly 3 seconds later. Average human reaction time is about 1/4 second so he is TWELVE times slower. In fact, it almost looks like he pulls away from the barrier.

Januarisays...

Well the camera isn't attached to his head so it's entirely possible he was looking at something else, that also might explain his startled reaction.

In his defense i'm sure he wasn't expecting an SUV to be moving so quickly along that path.

sepatownsays...

I'm guessing she didn't see it until quite late and then got what a lot of motorcyclists get before they crash and that is 'target fixation'. she sees something out of the ordinary, works out it poses danger and then can't look away from it which exacerbates the problem because she starts heading to where she's looking.

Ickstersays...

I love that the first two comments are blaming the biker for not getting out of the way of the car quickly enough. What is this, YouTube?

ChaosEnginesays...

So basically the guy in the truck was some kind of maintenance worker and had a right to be there?

In that case, I'd say the blame is fully on the cyclist. The driver wasn't going that fast and even pulled over to his right. Meanwhile, the cyclist couldn't even navigate the more than adequate gap.

Shepppardsays...

According to the link he "was going way too fast"... maybe, I won't say a word one way or the other based upon speed. He could have been going a bit too fast, who knows?

My guess is that the biker was looking either at traffic, or off the side and not paying attention to what was infront of her. The driver should have stopped, that much is apparent.

However, her entire post is preachy, and somewhat self-defeating. In one paragraph she talks about how basically her explination was that she was distracted because she figured she was safe (entire paragraph that speaks about looking at the water, sipping from a bottle, looking at a dashboard, etc.)

and then goes on to say that she knew that there were cars that travelled the path..somehow not taking the logical leap, then, that perhaps that's one of the stretches that should be payed attention to.

I'm not saying the driver is blameless, far from it. He definitely should have stopped when he saw a biker or pedestrian coming up. But if she knew for a fact that this was an area that sometimes had motor vehicles on it, she maybe should have slowed down herself, or payed more attention.

ChaosEnginesaid:

So basically the guy in the truck was some kind of maintenance worker and had a right to be there?

In that case, I'd say the blame is fully on the cyclist. The driver wasn't going that fast and even pulled over to his right. Meanwhile, the cyclist couldn't even navigate the more than adequate gap.

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