*long but strong, not wrong, smoke a bong, bang a gong.

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Love how people call him arrogant simply because he is brutally logical...

I agree with ponceleon. He's just honest and logical. That's seems to upset a lot of people.

We need more Charlie Rose videos.

Whoa whoa whoa, can Bill Orly really add things to channels? Satire is one thing, adding something to the lies channel is going too far. Or is religion the lie?

I just assumed religion was the lie. Isn't that obvious?

^ Thanks for pointing that out. Even if 'Religion was the lie' this is still an improper manner to use the lies label. You don't see every religion video here in the lies channel.

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Wonderful stuff, he's very eloquent, very learned, knows and understands all sides of the arguments, and that's what makes him fascinating to listen to. He's not of the sort who keeps having to go 'Well, I don't know much about X view' or the like, because he has looked into them all and can understand where they're coming from. It's just that they're wrong and are damaging the quality and depth of life for the rest of us.

i think that is the first bill oreilly comment that has made me laugh and not just roll my eyes. woo hoo comment up vote from me, bill. not that i think what dawkins is saying is a lie, but thats fucking hilarious.

ancestor's tale is an awesome book, by the way.

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oy crap... I must have had a very outdated page loaded up. mauz already took care of what I was attempting to fix.

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At exactly 10:00, it's not technically long.

The FAQ on the Long rule needs to be re-written because it sort of contradicts itself. Here 'tis:

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Given that BillO downvoted it, I don't think he's being sarcastic.

Charlie Rose really is a poor interviewer. Too many interruptions lead to many unresolved talking points.

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>> ^imstellar28:
ancestor's tale is an awesome book, by the way.


It is, infact, Dawkins' best. And thats a strong field. It is probably one of the most fascinating books I have read and is ever going to read. To say that it is a must-read is an understatement. For those who do not enjoy the act of reading itself, there is an excellent Audiobook read by Richard and his wife, Lalla Ward

When I saw this title, I though "what an ingenious way to sneak in a rick roll".

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We need Oxford C-3PO to tell us politics and religion influence American science?

You could say the same thing about the government-paid shills who claim secondhand smoke is "deadly" and greenvangelicals who think water vapor in the atmosphere is heating up Mother Earth at unnatural alarming rates.

Religion will still be with us hundreds of years after Dawkins is dust. And the nations with the most numbers of faithful will in turn be the strongest and therefore evolutionary winners.

>> ^quantumushroom:
Religion will still be with us hundreds of years after Dawkins is dust. And the nations with the most numbers of faithful will in turn be the strongest and therefore evolutionary winners.


Natural selection cares only about reproduction. Therefore, religion will win because they have idiots who breed a lot. But they will offset this evolutionary victory by blowing each other up. So in the end, nobody wins.

The point is that religion in the states is mostly politics. When someone like John McCain says "I believe in evolution.. but I also see the hand of god in the natures around us" it's all because he doesn't want to lose votes / hurt feelings.

It just shows how unstable religion can be that such a large percentage of the earth's population can be threatened by this one man speaking his mind.

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>> ^thinker247:
>> ^quantumushroom:
Religion will still be with us hundreds of years after Dawkins is dust. And the nations with the most numbers of faithful will in turn be the strongest and therefore evolutionary winners.

Natural selection cares only about reproduction. Therefore, religion will win because they have idiots who breed a lot. But they will offset this evolutionary victory by blowing each other up. So in the end, nobody wins.


In a couple decades, it's unavoidable that the modern trend in gene frequency toward the religious and uneducated will be changed by reprogenetics.

My prediction is that mainstream parents will see a large increase in the happiness and abilities of their children, but many Creationists either will use it to increase religious traits (e.g. decrease tendency to question) or will mimic the Amish and shun advances in technology that challenge their ideology.

This is nothing special for a Richard Dawkins vid. Certainly not "must see" material. That interviewer was awful: "Uhm, what's going on........ in evolutionary..... study?" "Christianity, and ................ Islam (that's a religion, right?)"

I'm trying to figure out your troll angle here.

Does a troll-angle have three sides? My right to comment is as valid as yours.

Are you saying that having faith in general is sacrosanct? I always took you for a conservative Christian, not a panentheist.

I am not a Christian; I believe Christianity is a legitimate pathway to God-Consciousness, as are many others.

I find it hypocritical to accuse only religion of influencing science while ignoring the politics that gave us junk science resulting in imaginary polar bear genocide, man-made global warming, and tobacco smoke that would have already killed most of the human race by now were it as lethal as claimed. What fueled the ban of DDT? Politically motivated junk science. Well, that self-righteous attitude and Rachel Carson's lies are now responsible for needless deaths in the millions from the resurgence of malaria. How often blind faith and modern junk science share the same toothbrush.

Atheism will never catch fire because humans are not logical, or robots.
Humans are creatures of imagination and emotion, and listening to Dawkins talk about DNA, while interesting, will never replace religious storytelling. I understand the beef with fundamentalists, but they are small in number in most religions.

Fraudbama is a perfect example of how the power of myth trumps logic. He's gotten this far appealing only to imagination (a bright future) and emotion (hope) with only vague hints and promises of what he'll do.

As a former atheist, I'm not asking anyone to convert. I'm (occasionally) requesting atheists to consider the utilitarian usefulness of faith, and lose the bigotry long enough to grudgingly admit religion's done more good than harm.

>> ^quantumushroom:
Humans are creatures of imagination and emotion, and listening to Dawkins talk about DNA, while interesting, will never replace religious storytelling.

Maybe not Dawkins / DNA specifically, but I find science far more interesting than any religious story. I've always been awestruck when considering the scale and complexity of the universe, the unimaginably slow movements of galaxies colliding, the strangeness of things close to absolute zero, etc etc etc. Religion is either largely or entirely composed of made up stories about people doing stuff.
"Hey, so god was going to flood the planet to kill everyone (because he loves us), but he didn't want all the animals to die so he had some guy build a giant boat to temporarily store 2 of each of them."
vs
The Hubble deep field.

No contest.

On the other hand, if there is a creator who will someday judge us and eternally reward or punish us, may it have mercy on my foolish blasphemous self. Also, some irrefutable evidence for your existence would be nice pleasedon'tsmiteme.

Haha, good to know opinions are "truth" here on Atheisift, and that anal-retentiveness is thriving.

As a former atheist, I'm not asking anyone to convert. I'm (occasionally) requesting atheists to consider the utilitarian usefulness of faith, and lose the bigotry long enough to grudgingly admit religion's done more good than harm.

1.Name me a good thing done, or a moral statement made, in the name of religion, that could ONLY be done, justified and argued for, using religion.

2.Name me a wicked thing done, or wicked statement made, in the name of religion, that could ONLY be done, justified and argued for, using religion.

>> ^quantumushroom:


It's so strange that you're arguing for the "usefulness" of religion. And you say Christianity is one of many paths to god. You're not arguing at all about the truthfulness of it at all.

Christianity is either true, or false, right? I mean, either god and angels are fighting satan and demons over your soul, or they aren't. Either Jesus was the son of god, or he wasn't. If another religion contradicts that, then one of them is WRONG. Right?

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