from The Stranger blog:
A Christian pastor in North Carolina preached a sermon last week in which he urged parents to beat their gay and/or gender-nonconforming children. Good As You broke the story and has the transcript [see below].
Editorial last line of the blog entry:
Hostile parents double a gay kid's already quadrupled risk of suicide. Jesus would be proud.
The transcript:
"So your little son starts to act a little girlish when he is four years old and instead of squashing that like a cockroach and saying, 'Man up, son, get that dress off you and get outside and dig a ditch, because that is what boys do,' you get out the camera and you start taking pictures of Johnny acting like a female and then you upload it to YouTube and everybody laughs about it and the next thing you know, this dude, this kid is acting out childhood fantasies that should have been squashed.
Can I make it any clearer? Dads, the second you see your son dropping the limp wrist, you walk over there and crack that wrist. Man up. Give him a good punch. Ok? You are not going to act like that. You were made by God to be a male and you are going to be a male. And when your daughter starts acting too butch, you reign her in. And you say, 'Oh, no, sweetheart. You can play sports. Play them to the glory of God. But sometimes you are going to act like a girl and walk like a girl and talk like a girl and smell like a girl and that means you are going to be beautiful. You are going to be attractive. You are going to dress yourself up.'
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bareboards2*at least he didn't say bullshit
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transportersays...rebuttal:
http://www.wetpaint.com/modern-family/video/modern-family-clip-haley-and-alex-dress-up-luke-in-drag-video
bareboards2There actually is a nugget of truth in his "sermon."
"You were made by God to be _______." That part of the sentence? If you are Christian/theist, that is a true statement.
The fallacy is that a MAN finishes the sentence. A MAN deigns to dictate to God what God has made.
You were made by God to be homosexual. That is the way to complete that sentence.
The hubris of these puny scared men have in dictating to God what God meant. If anyone is burning, I'm betting on them.
probieWhat about little kids who believe in imaginary friends? Do you beat them too?
Better yet, what about the adults who believe in imaginary friends?
SagemindWhat the hell...
Hive13$1000 says that Mr. preacher man is a closest homosexual.
bareboards2Freudian misspelling.
He is closest to a homosexual, it is likely!
>> ^Hive13:
$1000 says that Mr. preacher man is a closest homosexual.
YogiJesus Christ
...can't support this.
gwiz665I find the hypocrisy of Christians acting non-christian hilarious. Atheists on average are just nicer people.
EvilDeathBeeFuck this guy. This simple minded cunt and the cunt-drones mindlessly going "amen", have no clue as to the damage they do, nor would they give a shit.
It'll take a few generations, but this sort of indoctrination will die away as their offspring eventually start to think for themselves. In the meantime, however, how many kids will get beaten and how many will commit suicide cause wank stains like this.
Jinxsays...>> ^gwiz665:
I find the hypocrisy of Christians acting non-christian hilarious. Atheists on average are just nicer people.
Idk about that. What bothers me is that he can make this little hate speech to an army of drones, all of them with the sincere belief that when they abuse and torment their children for the way they are because some divine being told them to. Poor Isaac.
Its like the scandal within the Catholic church. Clearly paedophiles exist outside of religion or this specific faith, what is particularly frightening is the degree to which the organisation covered it up and protected their own. Perhaps you could argue the priests were insane, sexually repressed, in need of help, but the organisation that protects them with no thought given to the victims? Thats the evil.
Edgeman2112I live in NC. This is some backwoods stuff for sure. Most people here are rational and not the stereotypical southern derp derp type.
Yogi>> ^Edgeman2112:
I live in NC. This is some backwoods stuff for sure. Most people here are rational and not the stereotypical southern derp derp type.
My parents lived there...some very very nice people.
hpqpI am an extremely non-violent person... and yet I want to break this person's face. FSM forgive me, for I am merely human.
sepatownhis retraction:
http://www.ketv.com/news/national/N-C-pastor-retracts-sermon-remarks-about-punching-gay-kids/-/9674576/12529326/-/bs2q95/-/index.html
"I did not say anything to intentionally offend anyone in the LGBT community."
messengerThe most hopeful thing from that reporting of his retraction comes at the end:
Harris told the Observer that from within his church, "the response was, 'Pastor, we know you didn't mean that.'"
If taken at face value, it means his own parishioners called bullshit on him.>> ^sepatown:
his retraction:
http://www.ketv.com/news/national/N-C-pastor-retracts-sermon-remarks-about-punching-gay-kids/-/9674576/12529326/-/bs2q95/-/index.html
"I did not say anything to intentionally offend anyone in the LGBT community."
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SagemindSuch a non-retraction. Again, only sorry for the wording not the sentiment and then, only because he got called out:
"I apologize to anyone I have unintentionally offended," Sean Harris, pastor of Berean Baptist Church wrote in a statement on his church's website. "I did not say anything to intentionally offend anyone in the LGBT community.
"My intent was to communicate the truth of the Word of God concerning marriage," the statement continued. "My words were not scripted. It is unfortunate I was not more careful and deliberate."
"Berean Baptist explains its stance on discipline of children on its website:
"Remembering the love and forgiveness that God has shown them, parents in turn should train their children with the purpose of reflecting the Heavenly Father to their children. Parents should consider their responsibility to be the instrument of discipline in their child's life (Prov. 19:18). At times this may include appropriate and reasonable physical means (Prov. 10:13) employed upon the fleshy portion of the child's buttocks (Prov. 22:15; 23:13); that this method is to be viewed as correction rather than punishment (Prov. 23:13); and that this correction will result in the child's physical and spiritual betterment.""
>> ^sepatown:
his retraction:
http://ww
w.ketv.com/news/national/N-C-pastor-retracts-sermon-remarks-about-punching-gay-kids/-/9674576/12529326/-/bs2q95/-/index.html
"I did not say anything to intentionally offend anyone in the LGBT community."
Opus_Moderandisays...He sounds like Martin Sheen...
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