Again totally wrong commentary from a liberal or worst a Liberal Redneck .

Donald Trump isn’t ripping up a treaty; he’s walking away from Barack Obama’s personal pledge. President Obama made a deal with Iran without support from Congress. Trump is pulling out of President Obama’s personal commitment, and he doesn’t need Congress’s support to do” it because Congress had nothing to do with authorizing this.

You do realise JCPOA was a joint deal right? It wasn't Obama's decision. It was a joint effort by P5+1. It certainly wasn't Obama's personal commitment. Lol.

So Donald Trump DOESN'T speak for America?

So it IS just the Donald making a mess of things (again) for a personal peeve, I was not sure, thanks for confirming.

What next, mass imports of east european women? All US embassies converted to Trump Towers? Do we get a wall (or a war?) somewhere in Europe next? Follow the tweets!

Maybe not, maybe its all just some oil price hike scheme.

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Obama made this mess, not our government, not Trump.

Donald Trump isn’t ripping up a treaty, he’s walking away from Barack Obama’s personal pledge. President Obama made a deal with Iran without support from Congress. Trump is pulling out of President Obama’s personal commitment, and he doesn’t need Congress’s support to do” it because Congress had nothing to do with authorizing this.

Iran can’t violate because they never signed it! Therefore, technically they’re incapable of violating. This is just a set of political documents put forth by Obama, never ratified by the Senate, not signed by the Iranians.


Iranian President Hassan Rowhani opposes a parliamentary vote on the nuclear deal reached because terms of the agreement would turn into legal obligations if passed by lawmakers. “If the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action is sent to (and passed by) parliament, it will create an obligation for the government. it will mean the president, who has not signed it so far, will have to sign it,” Rowhani said. “Why should we place an unnecessary legal restriction on the Iranian people?”



2015 — in the Obama State Department, “The Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA),” said that the Iran deal, “is not a treaty or an executive agreement, and is not a signed document…” It was the final document.




State Department: Iran Deal Is Not ‘Legally Binding’ and Iran Didn’t Sign It
https://nypost.com/2016/05/05/playing-the-press-and-the-public-for-chumps-to-sell-the-iran-deal/


White House admits it played us for fools to sell Iran deal
https://nypost.com/2016/05/05/playing-the-press-and-the-public-for-chumps-to-sell-the-iran-deal/

Rowhani: no need for parliament vote on nuke deal
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2015/08/29/Rowhani-Iran-nuke-deal-doesn-t-need-parliament-approval.html

I understand that you (Bob) and Donald agree that what Obama did was wrong. And so it was doubly wrong of "Liberals" to have supported him so blindly. That is a legitimate though biased point of view which I would be foolish to argue against for it is your belief.

In that case please enligten us about what are you two aiming to achieve by throwing excrement in the general direction of a fan?

What is the plan? What can the US propose that Iran IS going to ratify? Will Iran (and North Korea and China and, come to think of it, any country) have any interest to make a new deal with the USofA, if they either brag and throw insults or sulk and walk away?

Complying (for the most part) voluntarily was a resonable step in the right direction for both Iran and the US, how does trashing this agreement help? I mean how does it help anyone except Donald in the short term by pleasing fanboys?

Donald usually avoids stating aims (or makes multiple confusing proclamations) and then claims any outcome as a victory. What is a victory in your scenario - regime overthrow? change of Iranian public attitudes towards "America"? a more friendly "supreme leader"? a different ruling moslem faction? or maybe fluctuating oil prices? restructuring of oil field ownership?

Obama limited this to nuclear weapons, seems like a good idea in retrospect, frankly.

Bob, you really need to learn that right wing media lies to you.

You mean a "personal deal" just like the one Trump's working towards in Korea? (until this renigging on a nuclear deal that is, those negotiations just got more difficult by far)

No, I suppose not, because Trump isn't working with the authority of the UN or any other countries, or congress, he's doing it on his own.

What do you mean...because....The Iran Nuclear Agreement Review Act of 2015 (H.R. 1191, Pub.L 114–17 is a bill that was passed by the US Congress in May 2015, giving Congress the right to review any agreement reached in the P5+1 talks with Iran aiming to prevent Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons.

Some light reading for you....
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/oct/19/nikki-haley/haley-wrongly-says-congress-had-no-input-iran-nucl/

http://iranprimer.usip.org/blog/2015/sep/11/congress-votes-deal

Please look into your baseless claims before repeating them, your reputation needs a boost.

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Pulling an article from a left leaning rag to your support.

They did not sign anything into law. other than a review act which ok Obama continuation with the IRAN deal and to review act imposed a requirement that the president re certify the deal every 90 days.

Trump de-certified it by backing out.
Again Trump did the right thing.

You blew it when you stood me up on our date, don't come beg/crying back now...no love for you.

I began with the congressional bill you claimed didn't exist by stating...
"Congress had nothing to do with authorizing this."
...and followed with multiple articles that delineated exactly what the republican led congress did.

Can you dispute a single fact presented, or do you simply dismiss the fact checking entirely because it's not from a source politically right of faux news?
Left "leaning" compared to your normal hyper right opinion articles is hardly disqualifying without contradiction, and I don't accept the label anyway. Calling out Republicans for lying 3-1 over Democrats is actually right leaning when you consider they lie >5-1. (For example: Tax breaks don't benefit the rich, I didn't pay off my mistresses and those payoffs I made 2 weeks before the election to hide years old events had nothing to do with the election, my campaign had no contact with Russia, a republican pedophile is better than an upstanding Democrat, homosexuality is an abomination unless we get caught at the gloryhole, .....I could go on forever VS 'I didn't see an issue using a personal server for government emails', and "I did not have sexual relations with that woman".)

Right thing for who? Not for regional stability.

@bobknight33

Sorry but you're clearly delusional to think it was Obama's actions alone or even his idea. Obama didn't make this "mess", he didn't even sign it .

No he did not.

This is really circular if all the definition of "right" you have is that Donald did it and all the definition of "wrong" is that Obama did.

What is the positive outcome we should be looking forward to?

The agreement was legally worthless.
If it was then Trump would not have been to back away from it.

It was nothing more than Obama's political pledge.

I think the real real deal was this adventure was a cash cow for those involved.

The Iran deal was a joke, a personal pledge from Obama and his circle of cohorts to make a political pledge ti Iran. This agreement has no legal standing, otherwise Trump could not have been able to walk away from it so easily.

It was nothing more than Obama's political pledge.

I think the real real deal was this adventure was a cash cow for those involved.

It was nothing more than Obama's political pledge. with no legal standing and Trump back ed out of it.

Hahahah, no. The UNSC resolution made it binding and the US congress didn't object to it within the 60 day timeframe layed out in the JCPOA deal. Educate yourself.

You are delusional and poorly informed, and can't keep your argument from contradicting itself.
He backed away because Obama was involved, he was able to because congress (who you said had no input) required presidential recertification every 90 days, not because there was no legality, not because it wasn't binding, not even because it wasn't working.

Obama spoke for the P5!? He was even more of a leader than anyone knew, directly leading Europe single handedly! Jesus fuck Bob, you just don't think your nonsense through and often make Obama out to be far greater than he was in your misguided efforts to demean him.

Who do you think made money? Obama?
I won't be surprised if you respond by talking about the $1 billion we released, likely completely unaware we were breaking international and American law by keeping it, and that it was from illegally seized Iranian assets, not American tax payer money...Trump certainly seems unaware of those facts.