The video is circumstantial.

I know that I can't tell who is at fault for what just by seeing that video alone.

I can guess as to what the cops are thinking, "Not this bullshit again."

Out of context. Is there any other footage of what lead up to this?

Nothing circumstantial at all about it...the video clearly shows an assault.

Unless she was waving a weapon around, I find it damned hard to imagine what context would make stomping on her head an acceptable response.

And if she -was- waving a weapon around, or something equally provocative, why is nobody mentioning this little fact?

don't see how you could argue that it was "heat of the moment" or self defense at all. It appears to be clearly pre-meditated. He puts his foot on her shoulder, pauses for a second, and pushes down hard with a clear intent to harm while she's laying there and not struggling.

Excellent point.

Willfully omitted from this video is the part where this woman assaulted the two men twice her size, simultaneously holding down both, then giving them concussions. Those very concussions are to be blamed for the lack of judgement shown.>> ^bobknight33:

Out of context. Is there any other footage of what lead up to this?

You guys can debate the video that's fine but would you agree that he did something to her...physically restrained her at least? And now...he's asking for an apology...really? Really!?!

Fuck Him.

Everybody deserves to be head stomped every now and again. Maybe she didn't deserve it here. But I'm sure she was due.

Honestly, there is no context here.
I don't know what led up to this.
I don't know what she did to gain their attention.
I don't know how she ended up on the ground.
I don't know what her motives were.

The push with his foot looked like the same push any one gives as a message to stay down, you've lost, stay down, stop fighting. I think to judge anything by this short clip is wrong (inconclusive). It looks to me his foot was on her shoulder and it slipped a bit - he wasn't aiming for her head.

To get a better motive of her agenda there, I checked out the moveon.org website. I couldn't find the document on how to attract media attention - it may have been pulled due to this attention.

What I did find was video from a different point of view.

Apparently, Lauren was on the side of the road with a crowd watching Rand Paul drive slowly by. In a disguise, with a blond wig on, she rushed the vehicle and tried to shove something inside the vehicle. Supporters and security pulled her back from the vehicle and to the ground. where they told her to stay down.

Read this article to see what really happened: http://www.redstate.com/rs_insider/2010/10/27/exclusive-video-lauren-valle-before-the-head-stomp-vid/

"This video was sent to RedState by an anonymous witness at the event. It shows what Valle was doing when the Paul supporters grabbed her. No one chased her around the car. She was never in front of the car. As you can see in the video, Valle reached in the candidate’s window with her “RepubliCorp” sign and shoved it in his face. Several supporters in Paul shirts have her surrounded at that point, and a man in a suit is the first person to actually intervene physically. It’s hard to tell from the video, but it could be that the man in the suit was with Paul’s security staff.

Toward the end of the video, you see several Paul supporters asking a police officer to come intervene. It was Paul supporters who told Profitt to back off. It was Paul supporters who brought the police. Contrary to the growing narrative on the left, this video clearly shows that Valle was not the victim of a conspiracy to “take her out.” "

Lulz. Hope he gets in front of a judge with a young daughter.

@Sagemind rather than trusting RedState's interpretation of the video, what do you see happen there?

I see Lauren Valle try to stuff a sign into the window of Rand's car. I then see the guy in a gray suit (who probably is the actual security) physically grab her and move her away from the car, and then let her go.

Had it ended there, I say no harm no foul.

But after he lets her go, we have the events from the other video, where two supporters tackle her to the ground, and hold her head on the curb. They have her completely restrained, when Tim Profitt decides to give her head a stomp foot blessing.

Reverse this for a moment, if it'd been Jack Conway, and some teabaggette had stuffed a sign into his window, and after security moved her away from the truck, two Obama supporters tackled her, held her on the ground, and I came along and give her head a calming foot massage (with full concussion), would you be defending me?

Would you be claiming that there is a valid context in which I could utter the phrase "She should apologize to me, if I'm honest", and still be an upright and decent human being?

1. See female liberal protester
2. Grab sideboob
3. ?????
4. PROFIT!!!

Interview with Tim Proffitt at 1:16

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ykIiWyuf-A

He talks about using his foot because he has issues with his back.

Really? The guy holding her down wasn't already giving her that message? Really?

Also, don't hedge "slipped" with "a bit". It "slipped" "enough to give her a concussion".

I'm not condemning the actions of the crowd. I'm not even necessarily condemning the actions of the man who held her down. If he was honestly concerned for the welfare of Paul, who's to say his actions aren't defensible?

But kicking a woman's head into concrete while another man holds her down? You're defending that? What kind of fucked up society is this where that kind of action is defended along party lines?>> ^Sagemind:

The push with his foot looked like the same push any one gives as a message to stay down, you've lost, stay down, stop fighting. I think to judge anything by this short clip is wrong (inconclusive). It looks to me his foot was on her shoulder and it slipped a bit - he wasn't aiming for her head.

Well, lets see...

I don't know who any of these people are. I don't know where they live or what they do. As anyone could, I could research it, but my point is, I have no vested interest over one side or the other.

To my brain:
I see someone approaching the vehicle, when they shouldn't be and stuffing a sign into a window in an offensive manner.
Then I see, what could be security pulling her back, and several other people joining in.
Then we loose sight of what's going on.
SWITCH to the other video.
I see a disguise being removed and a woman being pushed to the ground.
Then as that guy is pushed off her by another woman, the "Second' man gives her an extra push with his foot (as if to say, "You've failed, stay down.")

So in the end, what I make of this is: Someone went where they knew they wouldn't be welcomed, tried to stir a bee hive, succeeded, got stung and then, cried foul.

- Was she in the wrong? Yes.
- Was there a lot of energy in the air? Yes.
- Should they have hurt her? No.
- Did she need to be pushed to the ground? Don't know - she was resisting being detained - I can't tell.
- Did he recognize her, and out of spite, put his foot into her. Possibly, yes.
- Should they have detained her and called the police? Yes, and they did.

What I do see clearly is that politics and it's supporters all act like children in the playground with no adults around to supervise them. I personally find all the "Hoopla" of chanting, cheering, partying and rallying quite childish and sophomoric. I'm not surprised whey their festivities go awry.

It makes me think of William Golding's, "Lord of the flies."

You know who Tim Profitt is. If you don't, you didn't watch this video.>> ^Sagemind:

Well, lets see...
I don't know who any of these people are. I don't know where they live or what they do. As anyone could, I could research it, but my point is, I have no vested interest over one side or the other.

I roughly know who he is from this and maybe one other video, but beyond that, no. I'm from Canada, he doesn't make our news... (at least not any news that I've seen.)

And yes, perhaps if I knew more about his character, I'd have a more informed opinion.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Tim+Profitt

I'm not defending him for his actions, I just don't see all things as Black and white. I see many shades of gray with ribbons of colour.

... And no, I don't defend the actions of either of them.
I do however criticize the "their" actions to cry foul when ever things don't go their way.