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...and then he went and fucked some models to kill the pain.

So how shallow and insensitive do you have to be to simply ignore a whole segment of the female population based solely on their appearance?

This video is getting so much play among so-called "conscious" women about how "not enough men" are as "sensitive and empathic" as Dustin Hoffman is in this video, but all I can see is how much of a dick he was, and is only getting emotional here because he realizes his own insensitivity and how unlikely he is to change his ways...

And besides, most of the "societally attractive" women that I've met are frequently far less interesting to talk to than the "normal-looking" woman (or more uniquely beautiful ones), since the "societally beautiful" women have very little need to develop a real personality, since so much is given to them, on the basis of their looks alone..

What a shame.

And again I see my assumption that women are the better humans proven right. They're just more likely to date an ungly dude if said dude is interesting. Rarely works the other around.

"What a shame," you say? What a shame, indeed, that you make assumptions. How do you know that Hoffman was; "unlikely to change his ways?" Do you know him personally?
Aren't you as guilty as he is when you come to the conclusion - based on your experiences of woman - that; "most of the "socially attractive" women that I've met are frequently far less interesting to talk to than the "normal-looking" woman (or more uniquely beautiful ones)?" You are doing a disservice to the attractive woman who are also intelligent, and being insulting when you say beautiful woman have no need to "develop a real
Personality." What nonsense.
I make NO assumptions. I speak as I find. And, what I find is that there are myriad personalities, wrapped up in myriad physical envelopes. Yes "what a shame" that people, like you, generalize and make trite assumptions.

I don't think women are better -- we are just different. If millions of years of evolution selected for men being stimulated visually (proven repeatedly through experiments), seems highly unfair to call them "lesser" for that.

There are so many things to say now -- about modern society, break down of tribal units, increased mobility through the world, women's menstrual cycles and their effect on their brains, biology not being destiny -- but I'll just leave it at --- women aren't better, just different.

Yeah, it's a hell of a lot better to judge a man by the size of his paycheque...

Women are not more likely to date an 'ugly but interesting' person. Some women are open minded about meeting new people just like some men are. Some take one look at you and then contemptuously dismiss you.

Look at his reaction. He wouldn't have gotten so emotional if he felt free to change.

And, no, I'm not "guilty" by making a generalization, which is not the same as an assumption. I didn't say "all socially attractive" women. I said, "frequently, most" of them, who are (by virtue of being defined as such) are given things in the absence of earning or deserving such things. It is a disservice to them, but it's not one I've contributed to, personally, as I prefer to spend time with individuals with character, and not the superficial types who make judgments on the basis of appearances, or who misinterpret on the basis of one's own prejudices, not unlike you have done here... Yes, a shame, indeed.

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Don't get it twisted, he's crying because he was one ugly ass woman.

There you go again; "Look at his reaction. He wouldn't have gotten so emotional if he felt free to change." Another gross, stupid, assumption.

And I do know the difference between an Assumption - which you made about Hoffman - and a generalization - which you made about woman.
I made clear that i have no prejudices. You ignored what I said to try and justify your ill-informed statements. Listen my friend, typing words with the help of spell check does not mean you have a valid opinion. Quit whilst you are behind, your silly comments are only digging yourself a deeper hole. I'm done.

I think the most important word in Hoffman's talk was the word "epiphany."

Often these moments are blazing and complex ideas, delivered as a whole in one moment. Not easily delivered to others in a couple of sentences in an interview.

If you haven't had the epiphany, haven't worked to understand the epiphany, or haven't already fully understood and lived the complex ideas so you understand what the epiphany is.... well, you might want to slow down the reaction comments and attempt to work at understanding what he understood in a flash, all those years ago.

In my opinion, of course. In my opinion.

I only unconsciously check out attractive women, but when I'm aware of my roaming eyes, I keep them off the lookers and glue em to the ones with character. This is an excellent way to get constantly laid, btw. Sorry, was that shallow? Aha!

Ladies and gentlemen, we just found the greatest psychologist on Earth! Go back to your man-hating hole and get your cat adoption papers ready.

Sorry, even as an ugly woman, Dustin would have gotten plenty of action had he left the movie set and went in a bar in NYC. It seems his real epiphany should have been something about his lack of perspective as an ultra-rich hollywood actor, not as a man.

There you go makin' assumptions.

Clearly he is upset at the thought thatsome women haven't had the priveledge of sleeping with him. I know that I too wrestle with this very tragedy everyday.

I'd can't really believe any man (or woman) thinks that they are blind to appearence. Hey, maybe I am just especially shallow, but even knowing the existence of this bias I still think it impacts my decisions subconsciously. Ugg want mate. Can one change their nature? In the effort to balance your inherent bias are you not creating new ones? I am sad about the beautiful people I might have missed because my eyes won't see deeper...but is not the only person needing an apology myself? idk.

You know, this is an interesting question to ask of women -- how would you be different if you were born a man?

If you really let that sink in, in all its implications, a healthy shift of consciousness might ensue.

From a feminist friend of a friend:

“This is nice and it’s cool for a straight guy to talk about having a new perspective on the male gaze, good for him. but the fact that it’s gone so viral is a little upsetting to me. do we really expect so little of men that Dustin Hoffman recognizing that, you know, beauty doesn’t necessarily accompany substance (and vice versa) is inspirational?”

So, what's his big revelation here? That unattractive women are interesting, too? Really? Not impressed.

He admits to working his fame on attractive women and then felt guilty for it, and made Tootsie to make up for his guilt (and cashed in, in the process). I don't hold it against him for having a "come to Jesus" moment, by dressing up in drag. I don't even care that he got emotional when he shared it with the American Film Institute, as some sort of cultural revelation.

What bothers me is that we live in a culture that feeds off these momentary glimpses of heart, when we all know that there is really so much more. And that this admiration for such a minor insight really sets the standard far too low.

Let's not mistake a sincere moment with actual, you know, integrity.
Sure, it's a sweet video and a sweet message (maybe a bit saccharine for my tastes). And Tootsie is, for sure, a great flick! But, crying on camera is not the limit-case for what constitutes a touching and meaningful moment, particularly one like this, devoid of any real context and depth. It's emptiness masquerading as meaning.

Crocodile.