She'd have to care for it to hurt and it is pretty clear by now that she really doesn't care to help anyone who isn't as small minded as she is.

Sad to see that people are still repeating the book banning bit. I don't like the fact that she posed it as a hypothetical question, but she never actually asked anyone to ban any books, so that issue really needs to drop.

^ Yeah, it's sad to see a 3rd party Democratic ad telling a half-truth like that.

It's so unfair, after all we only have millions of dollars being spent by the McCain campaign and RNC directly stating that Obama wants to raise taxes on everyone over $42,000, and implying that Obama is a socialist for wanting to do a middle class tax cut.

But hey, since a 3rd party Dem group with scarce resources told a half lie, it's totally the same as McCain's ads that tell 4 lies at once blared 24/7 by the main campaign.

Whoa whoa, the book banning thing failed because responsible, intelligent people STOOD UP TO THAT NUTJOB. It most CERTAINLY doesn't need to drop.

Some facts about it:

1. She wanted to ban some stuff, so she asked the person in charge of the libraries what she thought and received the answer that books would not be banned as long as the librarian kept her position

2. She fired the librarian in an attempt to get by her.

3. The librarian was reinstated when people came to her aid.

4. Palin drops the attempt only after it appears she can't win.

Just because she was an INEFFECTIVE nutjob in that case doesn't mean that we shouldn't still know where shes coming from.

Now, all that said, I find it hilarious that the one thing you latch on to here is the book stuff and ignore all the stuff about woman's rights...

Oh, and as for the $42k tax thing... I love it. The reps have been just lying this last week to try to scare people. It went from $250k businesses, to $100k and now the poster above claiming it is for incomes above $42... yeah, keep lying guys... that's the way to better this country, lie a candidate into office.

"There's a special place in hell for women who don't support other women."

There's a special place in Idiotsville for women who support other women only because they are women.

Downvoted thain and upvoted ponceleon. Ponceleon is exactly right. She clearly tried to ban a book, and just because she failed after ruining someone's career doesn't exempt her stupidity.

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There's a special place in Idiotsville for women who support other women only because they are women.


Support doesn't mean blindly defend, it means support.

I hate it when they put very young kids in front of a camera for a political message. Otherwise, I would have upvoted it.

^same

The worst thing about all this is that picking Palin for VP candidate actually hurt the women's movements. Instead of an intelligent, capable, modern, qualified woman, they picked a dumbass valley-girl who happens to be from Alaska.

What message does this send to young women? Be pretty, wink alot, and wear expensive clothing, and you can do ANYTHING!

ANY other running mate would have been a better choice for McCain. Olympia Snow or Kaye Bailey Hutchison both come to mind. Why o why o why he picked Palin among the list of qualified applicants we'll never know. Pressure from his own party? maybe
or
maybe he's just a crotchety old man without enough sense to pick a qualified candidate to run with

A message reflecting the childish liberal mentality delivered by children. How apt.

^ There is nothing childish or particularly liberal about supporting women's rights.

Unless of course you think it's liberal for women to have rights?

Is it liberal for women to be protected from rape? or is the conservative stance that they shouldn't vote at all?

I don't see how using children is inappropriate. Elections decide the future world children grow up in. It's relevant to the decision people with families are making.

It's not automatically liberal to criticize Palin. If anything Sarah Palin is so far right that criticism is in the centre and relevant to everyone.

wow. interesting stuff.

needed to be said.

I thought the use of the girls was apropriate. They were there to remind everyone that the choices we make today not only determine what we put ourselves through, they also determine the issues the younger generation will have to deal with in the not too distant future.

Things like VD, unplanned pregnancy, and rape don't wait around for everyone to turn 18 first. They have a right to ask us to look out for them when it comes to these things.

that was very powerful and effective.

LAW ABIDING citizens can have automatic weapons if they want to. where have I heard that?

Reentering this discussion too late to really matter, and I'm not even sure if the people who downvoted me for trying to be a voice of reason will see this, but if you read the reports at snopes (http://www.snopes.com/politics/palin/bannedbooks.asp) and factcheck (http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_palin.html), you'll see that the question of banning books WAS hypothetical, and that even the librarian in question says she was never actually asked to ban any books.

I latched on to the bit about book banning in this ad, because otherwise it is an EXCELLENT ad that hits all the high points. The point of my comment was to draw attention to the fact that accusing Palin of trying to ban books was an unnecessary lie in a very powerful ad, and that lie could have been enough to turn off a moderate who might otherwise have been swayed, because it injects that little hint of suspicion that there might be other lies in the ad.

The incredible number of negative, falsehood filled advertisements are a big reason the Republicans lost the election, and I really think it's a shame that a small, independent Democrat group decided to throw in a completely debunked claim when they had such an otherwise factual and POWERFUL advertisement.

When the truth is so effective, why throw in even a half-truth?

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