Can This Change Everything for DJs

DJ Jazzy Jeff visits Phase to see what the future holds for DJs who still use the old turntable style. Note the slick move around 2:07
ChaosEnginesays...

I have questions.

Maybe I missed it, but I feel like they didn’t really explain what it is or how it works.

I guess it’s some kind of replacement for a record needle, that uses an accelerometer(?) or something, but I’d really like more details.

Also (and I know nothing about DJing, so tell me if I’m being an idiot), surely using this kind of digital wireless thing (again not sure how it works) would defeat the purpose of using analog vinyl in the first place?

eric3579says...

First off they use DVS technology which has been around and has nothing to do with what Phase is. I had no idea this was even a thing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinyl_emulation_software

https://www.digitaldjtips.com/2017/06/a-beginners-guide-to-digital-vinyl-systems/

With Phase you don't need the special time coded vinyl record or needles.
https://youtu.be/keNa-i8toTU

There may be a better explanation somewhere but that's what i got in 15 min using google.

ChaosEnginesaid:

I have questions.

Maybe I missed it, but I feel like they didn’t really explain what it is or how it works.

I guess it’s some kind of replacement for a record needle, that uses an accelerometer(?) or something, but I’d really like more details.

Also (and I know nothing about DJing, so tell me if I’m being an idiot), surely using this kind of digital wireless thing (again not sure how it works) would defeat the purpose of using analog vinyl in the first place?

AeroMechanicalsays...

I'm pretty sure the vinyl itself has nothing on it. It's all digitized and stored in a module. The "Phase" device is just a very accurate, low-latency angular-position transducer for controlling the module.

So... why not just read the position directly from a special turntable (like the other digital sets they sell)? I dunno, I guess these let you use your favorite Technics turntables from 1989 that have just the right feel or whatever.

I don't know this, I'm just basing it on the evidence that there is clearly no stylus dragging across the record, so the sound can't be coming from there.

Ed: Oh, and I guess it's wireless. Maybe that's a big deal.

CrushBugsaid:

BUT HOW DOES IT WORK!?!?

kir_mokumsays...

it offers nothing new to a DJ's workflow while replacing one failure point with 2 new ones (battery and proprietary RF) and adds another stupid little box that's definitely going to cause problems during setup. DVSs are already a pain in the ass, have compromised sound quality, have latency issues, fail all the time (both user error and software/hardware errors) which is one of the many reasons why almost no touring DJs outside the turntablism/party rock world use them anymore. 99.9% of headliners and locals are USB/SD card and CDJ2000s.

the rane 12 is a much more robust and professional product that fills the same gap as this toy. also, i swear i saw this getting hyped around 5 years ago.

ForgedRealitysaid:

Oh shit! We shoulda consulted the expert. Damn that sucks. Oh well, nothing to see here, boys. Move along.

kir_mokumsays...

this is pretty much bang on. there are several versions of a "special turntable" which are just controllers. you can use all in one controller set ups, CDJs/XDJs in HID mode, or rane's 12 turntable, which is just a stand alone controller for DVS. all in one controllers are geared more toward bedroom and wedding DJs, the rane 12 is pretty boutique and for turntablist/party rock DJs, and CDJs/XDJs are what everyone else uses and are industry standard and in every club/rave/festival/tech rider. there is also a growing move back to vinyl in certain scenes, especially techno and jungle/choppage/breakbeat hardcore scenes.

AeroMechanicalsaid:

I'm pretty sure the vinyl itself has nothing on it. It's all digitized and stored in a module. The "Phase" device is just a very accurate, low-latency angular-position transducer for controlling the module.

So... why not just read the position directly from a special turntable (like the other digital sets they sell)? I dunno, I guess these let you use your favorite Technics turntables from 1989 that have just the right feel or whatever.

I don't know this, I'm just basing it on the evidence that there is clearly no stylus dragging across the record, so the sound can't be coming from there.

Ed: Oh, and I guess it's wireless. Maybe that's a big deal.

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