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One of the largest groups that discriminate against African Americans...African Americans... I would not even call America a country of discrimination--I would call it madness.

And these subtitles are killing me... I would hate to be deaf because you can't understand these things.

Agreed, everything would be much better if we were all white or pretended to be white. Except MJ he was better black.

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Not surprising. Anyone who thinks that discrimination is not still an issue, or that things like affirmative action aren't still needed - is fooling themselves.

Completely meaningless piece of anecdotal nothing nothing nothing.

Affirmative action is discrimination. It is necessary, of course, to give an even playing field, but it's an evil in response to an evil. I am sad that we fail in this endeavor as a society--racial discrimination.

Not completely meaningless, but not very meaningful either.

My first thought was that newly-created accounts probably get more hits by design so new users are immediately met with success at monster.com. If she'd changed her own profile to "white" with the same results that would mean more. Even better would be creating TWO new identical profiles, one white and the other black. It would still be anecdotal, but it would be a true comparison of equal things.

The same band-aid on a sucking chest-wound as the current fist-fuck over firearms in the United States-Something is broken, let's make it worse.

There will come a day when we will need to take away affirmative action. But that day is obviously not today as this video completely demonstrates.

I agree with you, but what's the alternative? If we didn't do affirmative action, there wouldn't nearly as many minorities in higher positions as there is now. While we still have racial problems, they would be set back at least 20-30 years if we didn't give them a boost, artificial or not. There would always be exceptions of course, but minorities would still be in mostly service positions today. The idea of a minority being a CEO or getting elected into public office would still be an alien concept.

The sooner we treat them as equals, the sooner we level the playing field, the sooner Affirmative Action goes away, so quit bitching about first world problems and lets move forward so that Aff. Action IS unnecessary.

I'm sorry this is true. I do have some technical questions about this as it relates to Monster. What is this 'diversity questionnaire' on Monster? How did they initially identify her race-by the questionnaire? Very interesting but I'm more interested in Monster and how it works in this way.

Indeed, a key question is whether potential employers can even see the results of this diversity questionnaire. I'm guessing that they can not.

That means that the discrimination was on the basis of name. One name is linked to lower socioeconomic status than the other name.

There have been scientific studies showing that name alone will affect the number of callbacks for interviews:
http://www.wtop.com/884/2745730/Whats-in-a-name-Perhaps-a-promotion-Or-discrimination

I'm calling shenanigans. I'm fairly sure browsing employers cannot see the race at all, so that eliminates that as a possibility. I know from experience whenever I've scrapped an old job search profile and created a new one...I got hits, when I hadn't heard from anyone for months. They may have something interesting going on with the name...I'm not sure. In my personal opinion I think it's far more likely the creation of an entirely new profile is explanation enough to account for the increase in attention. Racism and discrimination is still an issue in this country, but I don;t think this is a very good demonstration of the problem

The question is why is there still discrimination?

What is it that keeps "white" folks from giving "black" people a fair chance?

uhm, because it's survival instinct to fear and hate "the other" It's not exactly rocket science.

but instincts don't go away overnight or because of a magic law.

I know you well enough though bob to know how you would answer that question though and that you're not saying it because you know you'd be run out of here.

It demonstrates perfectly why racism still exists. Sorry, but civil rights for minorities is still relatively new. We still have too many people alive that can remember when a black man couldn't drink from the same fountain as a white

If you were raised on that idea being normal, sorry, it just doesn't go away for many people. And guess what, those people teach their kids the same discrimination. They don't understand why they're supposed to hate them, but that's how they were taught even though they might even know any black people. Eventually they might meet a black and they have to make a choice as to believe what they were taught or to reject it.

Its going to take a few generations. We're not probably going to live a completely integrated society.

Gotta also remember it wasn't that long ago whites discriminated among themselves based on ethnicity. Whether or not you had a job depended on if you were Irish or Italian, etc. And they made all the same bullshit arguments against the other ethnicities that whites say about blacks and other minorities now. It was bullshit then and it's bullshit now. It's not much of an issue now because there are only a handful of people still alive to even remember when that was an issue.

This reminds me of a conversation I had with a Chinese girl who was choosing her "English" name:
me: How about Yvonne?
her: it sounds ghetto
me: no, it sounds French.
her: same thing

You don't know me you only have your diluted biased mind to guide you. I bet you think that I would never hire a black person? You are wrong. Once in my life I had the opportunity to hire. Skills, not color are more important.

Civil rights have been around for 50 years as you said" and It's not much of an issue now because there are only a handful of people still alive to even remember when that was an issue."


I moved to the south 12 years ago and live in a town where there was the whites only and the black drinking foundation. One case in my town went world wide..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kissing_Case.


Those days are long gone and only those of 50+ remember those times. You are right, they were brought up that that was normal. But for the last 30 years that thinking have been long gone. .And those ideas are are history.

. Also, most people doing the hiring today are under 50 and have had the sensitivity training. So what gives?

The girl in the video was seemingly solely discriminated based on her name. That's very sad. Her qualifications were top notch. To be discriminated on name alone is telling. Do blacks have a part in improving their image as a whole in society or do we need more sensitivity training?

You asked a question bob, and you didn't answer it. I did. In addition, I asserted that I have a good idea how you would answer that question based on your history here. You have made your feelings about blacks and other minorities quite clear in the past and it would be hard to divorce yourself from that previous stance unless you're going to admit you're wrong.

You are also quite wrong. Racism against other white ethnicities is all but gone because the generation who engaged in that discrimination is all but dead. It still exists however. I can guarantee you there are people in the world that still hold derogatory views on their fellow whites based on nothing but ethnicity. slurs against the jewish culture for example are still very much alive. But it's just not much of a political issue as there are just not enough people who unite behind that argument.

Racism based on the color of your skin is still alive and kicking however. Your assertion is that it's gone just gives me more evidence that my assertion of how you answer your original question (which you still have not given us YOUR answer btw) is probably correct. Not only is racism against blacks still exist. There are still plenty of people in positions of authority/power that grew up in those days and think it's normal. So big difference there between that and white ethnic racism

Do you honestly think going to some sensitivity training somehow magically erases racism? Sorry, racism is a bit more ingrained and a class isn't going to magically cure some of being a racist.

So again bob, I feel I need to hold your feet to the fire since you threw a question out there and thus far haven't given your answer. It seems to me that you think the onus is somehow on the black people. and that white are in the clear (apparently because they've attended a magic class that cures people of racism). Would that be accurate?

The question was for you.

Do you feel that today racism towards blacks is from Americas long history of unfair treatment of blacks? I feel that for the most part that is a thing of the past. I agree with you that there are some old folk that were born and raised with hate and will someday soon die of old age

If that is mostly true then what keeps today racism alive? Whose fault is it, whites, blacks or both?

Yes, sensitivity training of hiring professionals should be enough. They are professionals and are to see past race. You imply that even proper professionalism of HR they still discriminate.