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Adding video to channels (Wings) - requested by kulpims.

>> ^kulpims:

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Yep, Thanks.

Ria Novosti had an article about it the other day. Didn't expect the US press to pick up up so soon, to be honest.

Keep us up to date if anyone hears what happens as a result of this unauthorized interview.

>> ^radx:

Ria Novosti had an article about it the other day. Didn't expect the US press to pick up up so soon, to be honest.


Well who makes the F-22 Raptor? It's Lockheed Martin right? Built in conjunction with Boeing too huh...hmmm I wonder if the two largest receivers of government military contracts will get a pass in the media.

That is until the horde because too loud to ignore.

We'll be thankful we have these when the aliens invade. Or China.

If my employer told me I had to work with a plastic bag on my head, I'd tell them to fuck off. Apparently if the US military wants you to pointlessly kill yourself, you're not allowed to say no.

Why did the pilots go to Kinzinger specifically? I assume it's because he is also a pilot and know what these guys are faced with.

Suffocatingly-nest.

Personally I'd suspect the hell out of that air filtration system....that it's picking up something at the higher altitudes that it's not able to deal with and creates the wrong mixture and pumps it to the pilots or flat out doesn't filter for whatever it's picking up.

If you've ever driven a vehicle with a leaky exhaust, you'll notice you feel fine for a long time and then suddenly you just kind of wake up and go...something is wrong. Roll down the window and feel almost instantly better and more clear headed even when it's crazy hot or cold out because the air is not contaminated.

Once we crash one in China, Pakistan, Iran, or Afghanistan, I'm sure they'll help work out the bugs.

sucking down them chemtrails can kill ya

The very first minute of this report says these planes have never been used in combat.

Why we are risking the lives of these pilots for a training plane? It is seriously nuts.

I think of it as penis waggling. Boys and their toys. Even the pilots said they were happy to fly again at first.

Who in the Pentagon is so invested in keeping these in the air and why? It isn't rational.

Very interesting, and a very gray-area issue!

All kinds of jobs have guaranteed significant risks associated with them -- mining, oil rigs, Alaskan crab fisherman, etc. If there is some feasible and yes, cost efficient way to reduce those risks then it is pretty rational to expect or hope that it will be implemented. But, sometimes you really do need more data to figure out what if anything can be done to mitigate the risks. And sadly, that might require some level of exposing people to some problem that you know exists, but don't know what to do about yet.

If a coal miner suddenly decides that the risk of black-lung is too much for them to continue, I don't think we should expect the mining company to keep them on the payroll even if they refuse to go into the mine. I hope that these guys get the top brass to think long and hard about whether or not it is necessary to ground all the F-22s again, but I think they need to be ready to accept the very real possibility that the Air Force will tell them "don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out".

The way I understand it and I havent watched the video yet, is that the F-22 is still experimental it's not finished, it's not a training plane it's just still incomplete. They've been working on this plane for years.

>> ^bareboards2:

The very first minute of this report says these planes have never been used in combat.
Why we are risking the lives of these pilots for a training plane? It is seriously nuts.
I think of it as penis waggling. Boys and their toys. Even the pilots said they were happy to fly again at first.
Who in the Pentagon is so invested in keeping these in the air and why? It isn't rational.

>> ^bareboards2:

The very first minute of this report says these planes have never been used in combat.
Why we are risking the lives of these pilots for a training plane? It is seriously nuts.
I think of it as penis waggling. Boys and their toys. Even the pilots said they were happy to fly again at first.
Who in the Pentagon is so invested in keeping these in the air and why? It isn't rational.


Strongly disagree. If we didn't train pilots for this vehicle and suddenly we had a serious need for the it, the voice of dissent would be, "Why didn't we train pilots for a jet that could save our asses in a pinch and that we invested billions of dollars into?"

It's like in Ong-Bak when he's trained in martial arts and then told not to use martial arts. The violence of it is evil, but the threat within and without to forces that would otherwise seek to conquer, are deterred by their presence. If we had a peaceful society where we didn't need to constantly attack the shit out of each other, do we stop training pilots and soldiers? Hell no is the answer. That's the best way to get fucked over by the next big threat.

I also don't believe that we don't use the F-22. Lies within lies. They have an agenda and they don't need to whistle blow on everything surrounding it.

>> ^bareboards2:

The very first minute of this report says these planes have never been used in combat.
Why we are risking the lives of these pilots for a training plane? It is seriously nuts.
I think of it as penis waggling. Boys and their toys. Even the pilots said they were happy to fly again at first.
Who in the Pentagon is so invested in keeping these in the air and why? It isn't rational.


Dunno about penis waggling, politicians of all genders are generally of the mindset if we paid for something we should use it no matter how wasteful/dangerous/stupid it is.

That's why so many projects end up going over budgets and never working, because they are too "invested" either corruptly or politically to say enough is enough.

They need a bunch of kids getting cancer or born with birth defects (BP oil spill and all those non-harmful chemicals they dumped in the water *wink wink nudge nudge*), or a school being demolished by a plane falling out of the sky to give them the proof they need to not look like they screwed up in the first place and instead look like they gave it a chance but obviously the people advising them are fools...never the politician or people in charge.....never.

We're talking about the same people who generally promote family values and hetero relationships while they are heading to the restroom for a little rough and tumble with a random dude they just met or whatever other devious example you want to use. Bunch of corrupt mfers basically, who give no shits about you until it makes them look bad when they don't.

the f-22 exists because military contractors subcontract to just about every congressional district in the country, thus military projects do not get cancelled.

While a potent fighter, it's utility is eclipsed by combat drones. It's basically already a technological relic.

ahaha, all very serious about a serious issue, then at the very end "sponsored by viagra".

Good clip.

*Former pilots.

"...36 out of 200 pilots, or 18%..."

*facepalm*

Lockheed is the main contractor. They sub out some of the wings and tail section to Boeing. Pratt & Whitney make the engines. While the original order for the planes was over 200, I believe that has been cut in half (or more) since that. They usually have 3 engines per plane to make it easier to keep the plane going if an engine needs repair (there's 2 engines in the F/A 22, ones similar to the 1 engine in the Joint Strike Fighter). The F/A 22 project was the project before the Joint Strike Fighter, so a lot of the technology was shared between the projects.
>> ^Yogi:

>> ^radx:
Ria Novosti had an article about it the other day. Didn't expect the US press to pick up up so soon, to be honest.

Well who makes the F-22 Raptor? It's Lockheed Martin right? Built in conjunction with Boeing too huh...hmmm I wonder if the two largest receivers of government military contracts will get a pass in the media.
That is until the horde because too loud to ignore.