Why has it taken 10 god damn years for this to come out?

bottom line of the info below the vid?
definitely converup involved... whether its false flag, greed, or covering up lack of competancy... its not on the up and up

Secondary explosions != coverup. Stop jumping to conclusions.

You Americans are silly.

10 years on and still so many unanswered questions. I believe, whatever the truth is, we can handle it. Until a clear, concise, explanation is given to us, the trust in our leaders - which we so want to regain- will be absent. Maybe that's too much to hope for.

I am sure there are many medias we have not seen and heard. It's almost ten years!

Pfft we all know from the many times it's happened before that a 110 storey skyscraper will be silent - in particular, free of any booming type noise - until it falls collapses. After all the times I saw this happen before and after, they expect me to believe the WTC is some kinda special case where a 110 storey building with raging fires in multiple locations actually makes loud noises?

I think you forgot your sarcasm checkbox.>> ^budzos:

Pfft we all know from the many times it's happened before that a 110 storey skyscraper will be silent - in particular, free of any booming type noise - until it falls collapses. After all the times I saw this happen before and after, they expect me to believe the WTC is some kinda special case where a 110 storey building with raging fires in multiple locations actually makes loud noises?

[redacted... why am I participating in this discussion?]

This proves a conspiracy and coverup? You people are idiots. And obviously bored.

>> ^PoweredBySoy:

This proves a conspiracy and coverup? You people are idiots. And obviously bored.


Love how all the sock puppet probies come out of the woodwork to nay-say whenever a 9/11 video appears on the sift.

Can't wait for the plethora of structural engineers that are members here to follow...

>> ^Trancecoach:

Yeah, you're right.. These guys are clearly lying. In fact, they're not even fire fighters! They're actors working on scale.. (how else would they know what it's like to be on a movie set?)
>> ^EvilDeathBee:
I dunno about you guys, but i'm convinced. This is such a conspiracy, there is no other explanation at all.



Is it possible that they're mistaken? In a building that was hit by a plane...fires and such, I would expect some very loud bangs.

I suppose it's fitting that this is the first video I watched after a Hitchens video bashing people for wrapping anecdotes around a preconceived conclusion.

I wonder what it's supposed to sound like from the inside of a collapsing tower filled with hundreds of sealed rooms.

a friend of mine in the psyc department here is doing a phd on conspiracy theories

i should really let her know to come get some data from sifters... yeesh.

>> ^Trancecoach:

Yeah, you're right.. These guys are clearly lying. In fact, they're not even fire fighters! They're actors working on scale.. (how else would they know what it's like to be on a movie set?)
>> ^EvilDeathBee:
I dunno about you guys, but i'm convinced. This is such a conspiracy, there is no other explanation at all.

Everybody knows that an approaching tornado sounds like an oncoming locomotive. And a path of destruction it leaves behind also looks like a train plowed through. Shouldn't there also be a claim that it's a conspiracy and they are hiding all the rogue trains while blaming tornadoes?

These firefighters might not be lying or actors, but I would not necessary take their post-traumatic descriptions of the event as facts. They just lived through perhaps their most extreme experience of their lives with 2 giant buildings collapsing around them. While they might be trained and have experience with fires, nobody there had any training or preparation or prior experience on how an 110 story building hit by a plane would collapse and what it would sound and feel like.

When the south tower started collapsing i was standing at exactly 40.705426,-74.004928 that was literally in front of the an entrance to our office building(it was demolished since). When it started collapsing from my vantage point it looked like the top simply toppled over. That was my experience of the event. Was it accurate? No. But everybody on the street at that time saw it that way.

As I've said before...

>> ^xxovercastxx:

If the government wanted to destroy WTC and blame it on Muslims, why not just blatantly use explosives? It's not like the place hasn't been bombed before. Why bother with the hijacked planes and all the other shit? Blow the lower floors out and let the thing come crashing down. Dozens of terrorist orgs would have been thrilled to take credit for it.

>> ^Thallium:

Secondary explosions != coverup. Stop jumping to conclusions.


I'm sorry, did the 9/11 commission admit there were secondary explosions? Stop ignoring the obvious.

>> ^EvilDeathBee:

I dunno about you guys, but i'm convinced. This is such a conspiracy, there is no other explanation at all.


Such a conspiracy? Is there levels of extremity to the word "conspiracy" now? I understand how the word's meaning has been unjustly maligned by ignorant tools to where you're not even conscious to what you're saying, but this all out confirms it.

>> ^ant:

I am sure there are many medias we have not seen and heard. It's almost ten years!


No doubt. There is medias we will never hear or see. Even with the few NIST has been forced to recently release, some have been obviously edited and redacted.

There's probably hundreds of videos of the Pentagon attack that will never see the light of day. They were quickly rounded up "for public safety". They later released one video with 6 frames of the plane hitting.

>> ^Yogi:

>> ^Trancecoach:
Yeah, you're right.. These guys are clearly lying. In fact, they're not even fire fighters! They're actors working on scale.. (how else would they know what it's like to be on a movie set?)
>> ^EvilDeathBee:
I dunno about you guys, but i'm convinced. This is such a conspiracy, there is no other explanation at all.


Is it possible that they're mistaken? In a building that was hit by a plane...fires and such, I would expect some very loud bangs.


...and ground level explosions 80+ floors below.

>> ^Psychologic:

I suppose it's fitting that this is the first video I watched after a Hitchens video bashing people for wrapping anecdotes around a preconceived conclusion.
I wonder what it's supposed to sound like from the inside of a collapsing tower filled with hundreds of sealed rooms.


They didn't say they heard explosions while the tower collapsed. The lobby was blown out before the towers collapsed. If they were inside when the tower collapsed they wouldn't be on camera talking about it, they would be dead.
Even the third guy says the first explosion happen around the same time WTC2 was hit by the second jet. And towards the end of the clip, the second guy says "You people don't understand...there may be more, any one of these fucking buildings could blow up. This ain't done yet." And he was right: WTC7.

>> ^marbles:

>> ^EvilDeathBee:
I dunno about you guys, but i'm convinced. This is such a conspiracy, there is no other explanation at all.

Such a conspiracy? Is there levels of extremity to the word "conspiracy" now? I understand how the word has been unjustly maligned by ignorant tools where you're not even conscious to what you're saying, but this all out confirms it.


*rolleyes* You don't believe there are levels of severity to conspiracies? Basically you're saying that your paranoid, delusional nonsense idea that the US government planned 9/11 causing one of the worst disasters in American history, if that were an actual conspiracy you would equate it's severity to some police officer falsely arresting someone and planting evidence up them, and having the station cover it up? Are you retarded? Oh right, you believe in all this 9/11 cover up horse shit. I suppose the US faked the moon landing too. Don't forget your tin foil hat.

>> ^EvilDeathBee:

rolleyes You don't believe there are levels of severity to conspiracies? Basically you're saying that your paranoid, delusional nonsense idea that the US government planned 9/11 causing one of the worst disasters in American history, if that were an actual conspiracy you would equate it's severity to some police officer falsely arresting someone and planting evidence up them, and having the station cover it up? Are you retarded? Oh right, you believe in all this 9/11 cover up horse shit. I suppose the US faked the moon landing too. Don't forget your tin foil hat.Brilliant reply. So what are the levels of severity to conspiracies? I need to know this because I'm retarded/believe in 9/11 cover up horse shit. Or better yet, just define conspiracy for me.

>> ^marbles:

>> ^EvilDeathBee:
rolleyes You don't believe there are levels of severity to conspiracies? Basically you're saying that your paranoid, delusional nonsense idea that the US government planned 9/11 causing one of the worst disasters in American history, if that were an actual conspiracy you would equate it's severity to some police officer falsely arresting someone and planting evidence up them, and having the station cover it up? Are you retarded? Oh right, you believe in all this 9/11 cover up horse shit. I suppose the US faked the moon landing too. Don't forget your tin foil hat.Brilliant reply. So what are the levels of severity to conspiracies? I need to know this because I'm retarded/believe in 9/11 cover up horse shit. Or better yet, just define conspiracy for me.


aaaand, ignore

>> ^mxxcon:

These firefighters might not be lying or actors

The might not be lying or actors? Yeah, maybe this is the real conspiracy. The 9.11 truthers have staged a fake video of firefighters claiming huge explosions blew out the lobby of WTC1.

>> ^xxovercastxx:

As I've said before...
>> ^xxovercastxx:
If the government wanted to destroy WTC and blame it on Muslims, why not just blatantly use explosives? It's not like the place hasn't been bombed before. Why bother with the hijacked planes and all the other shit? Blow the lower floors out and let the thing come crashing down. Dozens of terrorist orgs would have been thrilled to take credit for it.



You do realize it usually takes weeks of planning and setting up to rig a demolition, right? No way people are going to believe that foreign agents would be able to set up a demolition without being noticed. And using jihadi elements helps exploit the fear factor.
And, you're right, it has happened before. The FBI helped stage a bombing on the WTC in 1993 but it didn't terrorize the public enough for the power elite to implement everything they wanted to do. They needed a "new Pearl Harbor" to do that.

Here's a longer clip of the interview:

>> ^marbles:

>> ^mxxcon:
These firefighters might not be lying or actors
The might not be lying or actors? Yeah, maybe this is the real conspiracy. The 9.11 truthers have staged a fake video of firefighters claiming huge explosions blew out the lobby of WTC1.
why don't you stop shitpicking on words and read the whole thing to understand what I said.

>> ^EvilDeathBee:

>> ^marbles:
>> ^EvilDeathBee:
rolleyes You don't believe there are levels of severity to conspiracies? Basically you're saying that your paranoid, delusional nonsense idea that the US government planned 9/11 causing one of the worst disasters in American history, if that were an actual conspiracy you would equate it's severity to some police officer falsely arresting someone and planting evidence up them, and having the station cover it up? Are you retarded? Oh right, you believe in all this 9/11 cover up horse shit. I suppose the US faked the moon landing too. Don't forget your tin foil hat.Brilliant reply. So what are the levels of severity to conspiracies? I need to know this because I'm retarded/believe in 9/11 cover up horse shit. Or better yet, just define conspiracy for me.

aaaand, ignore
i'm this close || to doing the same w/ him

>> ^mxxcon:

>> ^marbles:
>> ^mxxcon:
These firefighters might not be lying or actors
The might not be lying or actors? Yeah, maybe this is the real conspiracy. The 9.11 truthers have staged a fake video of firefighters claiming huge explosions blew out the lobby of WTC1.
why don't you stop shitpicking on words and read the whole thing to understand what I said.


Oh, so it's my failure to understand the context of your statement? LOL

It's ok. Join your friend. The blue pill is great!

Anyone care to enlighten me as to why these supposed conspirators blew up the towers? I mean, it must have been a pretty extensive operation to plan, so I'm guessing they didn't just murder a few thousand of their own citizens for shits and giggles.

Hell, even maddox isn't retarded enough to actually believe this shit.

>> ^ChaosEngine:

Anyone care to enlighten me as to why these supposed conspirators blew up the towers? I mean, it must have been a pretty extensive operation to plan, so I'm guessing they didn't just murder a few thousand of their own citizens for shits and giggles.
Hell, even maddox isn't retarded enough to actually believe this shit.


In his book, The Grand Chessboard, Dr. Zbigniew Brzezinski (former national security advisor for President Carter, former director of the Council on Foreign Relations, and a member of the Trilateral Commission along with Bush Sr. and Dick Cheney) writes of an imperialistic endeavor of controlling the world's vast natural resources (oil, natural gas, minerals, gold, etc.) and also human labor in Eurasia (specifically central Asia/Uzbekistan) that the U.S. must undertake to maintain global domination despite the American public's indecisiveness towards the external projection of American power (in which he reminds the reader that the American public supported U.S.'s engagement in World War II largely because of the shock effect of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor) and cautions that it will become more difficult to establish consensus on foreign policy issues with an ever increasingly multi-cultural society in America unless the public widely perceives a massive direct external threat. (killtown.911review.org)