This has actually been discussed before. If somebody discards a video then anybody else can post it and it will not be considered a dupe of the discarded video even if the original submitter promotes it.

Discarded videos are fair game to sift. This is a sticky situation though. If someone sifts a vid that someone else discarded, then someone else promotes the discarded vid, then someone else comes along and sees the promoted vid and dupeof's the new one to the older promoted one not realizing the promoted one was discarded before the new one was posted .. errg. Anyway, what do you do with the promoted vid? You can't (and shouldn't) dupeof it to the new sift. Does it get discarded again? Just leave it there?

Wait a minute.

"4. That person then sees your great video in the Top 15 and them promotes their own discarded video back to life and gets somebody to call dupe on it."

Did that happen? Link?

Resurrecting a discarded video for the purpose of having an existing submission get *dupeof called on it is an abuse of power and not allowed. I don't know of this ever happening before, but if someone ever did that, they'd likely be banned and/or have their *dupeof privileges revoked.

This has happened before and it's a total dick move.

Once a video is discarded, we should just not be able to resurrect it. If you want it up again, repost a new version.

off topic but .. talk about dick moves, I watched someone the other day declare 2 videos *dead (one the original and the other a dupe) and then *beg his own dupe of the same video.

No, it didn't happen. It's just that I posted a video recently that did go Top 15, and in the comments of it, somebody said it had been posted before. And going through comment links I found the original. It was discarded, but it just got me thinking whether it could be duped despite being discarded. So I checked the FAQ regarding duped videos and saw they could be resurrected using a promote. Hence the question.

Anyway, what you guys have said is good. It would be an abuse of power.

However, if it's seen as an abuse of power. Why can discarded videos be promoted back to life? Is it because of the situations where somebody has a full queue, wants to submit something "better" so discards one, and then comes back later and revives the discarded one as they still want it submitted to the sift???
>> ^burdturgler:
Wait a minute.
"4. That person then sees your great video in the Top 15 and them promotes their own discarded video back to life and gets somebody to call dupe on it."
Did that happen? Link?

Exactly. I've run out of spots and discarded stuff meaning to resurrect later. I have also discarded sift talk posts but then someone was upset because they wanted to say something about it and promote let me get it back. Also, a lot of videos were discarded before there was a dead pool. Also also ( ), you have situations were someone discards a sift when they shouldn't have.

Do point that out, I want to mock and scorn.
>> ^burdturgler:
off topic but .. talk about dick moves, I watched someone the other day declare 2 videos dead (one the original and the other a dupe) and then beg his own dupe of the same video.


Hybrid, it's exactly that reason it's there for. I think it should be removed. People can just sift it again, if they want to in a "low" period.

If you remove the ability to promote a discarded post back than you may as well eliminate *discard altogether because it will be no different than *kill. In other words, there's a reason why discards can be promoted.

Indeed. Let's eliminate discard too.

>> ^lucky760:
Resurrecting a discarded video for the purpose of having an existing submission get dupeof called on it is an abuse of power and not allowed. I don't know of this ever happening before, but if someone ever did that, they'd likely be banned and/or have their dupeof privileges revoked.


djsunkid did it to my video:

http://www.videosift.com/video/Car-Commercials-are-Bullshit?noredirect

I guess he doesn't like screamers, but that's no excuse to spoil the fun for everyone else. No need to punish him, but I'd love to have my video back with the 20 plus votes it had before all the shennanigans.

A while back, when I was new, I posted a videothat was discarded by someone who erroneously declared it to be a dupe without even watching it. That same video has since been reposted and presently has 53 votes.

Now that I have privileges, do I promote my old vid to get the votes dupeof'd onto mine, or do I preserve the comments on the current vid that did not fall victim to mistaken discarding by leaving it alone?

[edited for grammar]

In related news, some bullshit is happening over there.

The laws of the land were different back then, but that was indeed a wrongful discard. You should have cried foul back then, I think it would be not-nice to resurrect it now to grab the votes. >> ^notarobot:
A while back, when I was new, I posted a videothat was discarded by someone who erroneously declared it to be a dupewithout even watching it. That same video has since been reposted and presently has 53 votes.
Now that I have privileges, do promote my old vid to get the votes dupeof'd onto mine, or do I preserve the comments on the current vid that did not fall victim to mistaken discarding by leaving it alone?

Back then I did not know how to cry foul. I wanted to see that video was on the sift, and now it is. I have since posted other videos related to the same subject matter.

I know better now, and have worked hard to be able to promote and *quality the videos and discussion I think are worth having. What keeps me around here is the comments videos inspire. I gain nothing by eliminating that. I have no intention of performing such a resurrection, or robbing @supersaiyan93 of votes. I just thought it was an example worth pointing out of misuses of power points. >> ^gwiz665:
The laws of the land were different back then, but that was indeed a wrongful discard. You should have cried foul back then, I think it would be not-nice to resurrect it now to grab the votes. >> ^notarobot:
A while back, when I was new, I posted a videothat was discarded by someone who erroneously declared it to be a dupe without even watching it. That same video has since been reposted and presently has 53 votes.
Now that I have privileges, do I promote my old vid to get the votes dupeof'd onto mine, or do I preserve the comments on the current vid that did not fall victim to mistaken discarding by leaving it alone?

Awarding Hybrid with one star point for this contribution to VideoSift - declared quality by notarobot.

@notarobot I did not intend to suggest that you would do it. Like you I was just pointing out that it would have been a misuse of powers.

I don't see the value anymore in being able to resurrect a video that has been discarded really. Why don't we just remove the ability and completely kill of discard for anything but spam? Talks could still be resurrected if one really wanted it, but videos would likely be better to just post again, in my opinion anyway.

I find this incredibly hysterical...