On the intstabanning of CelebrateApathy
So I just noticed that rottenseed has instabanned CelebrateApathy for this comment. Basically, for those too lazy to click, CelebrateApathy told GenjiKilpatrick to "shut the fuck up" and called him a "dumb ass" for always attacking people. Now, this probably crosses the line, but as far as personal attacks go it's fairly benign. CelebrateApathy certainly deserves a warning, but INSTABANNING? Ridiculously harsh. Especially since, looking through his comments, CelebrateApathy is clearly not a troll and has no history of personal attacks.
On a related note, why do we even have the power to instaban people?? It's a good idea in theory, I guess, to quickly get rid of spammers -- but in practice it's way too easy to abuse this feature, as we see here. If anything, maybe dag and/or lucky could assign this privilege to a few specially-chosen people, but I don't see any reason that everyone should have it.
On a related note, why do we even have the power to instaban people?? It's a good idea in theory, I guess, to quickly get rid of spammers -- but in practice it's way too easy to abuse this feature, as we see here. If anything, maybe dag and/or lucky could assign this privilege to a few specially-chosen people, but I don't see any reason that everyone should have it.
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lucky760See http://videosift.com/talk/Do-Not-Misuse-Your-Instaban-Privilege
blankfist@rottenseed:
dystopianfuturetoday@rottonseed - It seems to me you've said worse things than that. What gives? Not to mention that apathy made a great point.
dystopianfuturetodayI am an excellent spellor.
rottenseedShut the fuck up dumb ass
rottenseed>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:
@rottonseed - It seems to me you've said worse things than that. What gives? Not to mention that apathy made a great point.
I fail to recall me actually resorting to name calling toward a specific member when it was not in jest. I know it sounds insane, but I really do stay on the side of not personally attacking an individual. Please if you recall a certain time, or you can point me to a comment where I've done so, let me know.
I may, attack a "crowd" of members and you could argue that it could be looked at as a summation of personal attacks, but I think a group of members are going to be just fine against me.
blankfistcottonseed
bareboards2To be accurate.... apathy didn't call rottenseed a dumbass. He(?) said "I'm so tired of ... seeing comments from your dumb ass attacking another member of the sift."
His ass was dumb. He wasn't.
Just to get this technically correct.
gwiz665As second-class citizens P's enjoy less protections under the law and thus fewer of the privileges. Losing ones P, climbing the ranks etc. gives a citizen of siftopia the freedom of being more abusive with the language, not only because people will recognize jokes for jokes more easily, and also shows that the citizen is invested in the community. The concrete instaban was too harsh and quick, but it was done because the person banned evidently looked to be a non-contributing member of the community. On further inspection this was a rash decision by the accused. It shall be undone (has already been).
There are two lessons one must take from this.
1) if you have a P and/or you haven't been here, don't attack anyone personally in a direct and confrontational manner
2) instaban is only to be used if something is especially egregious, or if it's something that's not worth the administrators' time. Spammers in particular are the target of these.
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