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DL Hughley - Anyone Who's White & Broke in America...

The Check In: Betsy DeVos' Rollback of Civil Rights

bcglorf says...

@newtboy said;
"You wish to ignore all racial discrimination and racial obstacles except that single instance you can point to where it doesn't come out in your favor, then suddenly racism IS a problem that needs eradicating...."

No I don't. I never said that, you're the one that said anyone objecting to affirmative action is like that. At least I presume that's what you meant by: "short sighted, purely tribal reasoning"

I question the process for applications for jobs, grants, university/college or other places. If one has a color blind computational method of creating a qualification score for candidates, how do we most fairly use that score to choose candidates.

My view: Sort the candidates by qualification score and take the top ones.

Tell me if I understand your view right or not.
I understand your view as: Some times or to some extent, higher scoring candidates should be disregarded for other lower scoring candidates based upon race.

Please correct me if I misunderstand that.

Also, anywhere else that race is similarly systematically used to discriminate against people should of course be equally corrected. Again, I'm not American, are there other parallel examples of law and process that check for your race and replace you with lower scoring people because of it? You accused me of only looking at "the kind that harms white guys", but the reality is I only know of this example of law and regulation written specifically addressing race as something that must be used to raise/lower the scoring of candidates. Are there other direct examples?

The Check In: Betsy DeVos' Rollback of Civil Rights

newtboy says...

Try reading again. You have it totally backwards.

When was I insulting or dismissive? Because it was unforseen that educated people would elect a bombastic insulting sexist popularist con man who was obviously lying to them simply because he wore a red hat and tie? Those are facts, not opinion. Many of them are saying how much they regret it now.

I offered solutions you appeared to agree with, like funding lower education so everyone has a decent, if not equal, opportunity to get an education.
Using race as ONE criteria amongst many for admission is not ideal, as I said, but until a better system for identifying and addressing financial and societal issues that stymie opportunities for people often based on their pigmentation is created, it's the best we've got.

What we don't have is what you imply is the problem.....rich white men with 1570 SAT scores (old school SAT, I don't know how it's scored now) and 3.9 gpas are not being turned away from Yale to make room for indigent African American women with 990 SATs and 2.7 gpas...but the Latina woman with 1550 and 3.6 gpa earned while raising 2 siblings and holding a full time job, yeah, she gets the slot, and that's proper. One skewed test that benefits one privileged group is hardly a decent measure of their work ethic or intelligence....often it's only an indication they hired the right student to take the SAT for them. There were at least 3 hired test takers out of 30 students taking the PSAT when I took it, we talked afterwards.

It is the right (and people making the arguments you are) who are far more insulting and dismissive of non white people's frustrations at being racially discriminated against....to a level and consistency exponentially higher than the trifling discriminations whites suffer. That doesn't mean some whites don't suffer some deleterious effects, it means they come out way ahead in the discrimination game.

You wish to ignore all racial discrimination and racial obstacles except that single instance you can point to where it doesn't come out in your favor, then suddenly racism IS a problem that needs eradicating....but only the kind that harms white guys, forget the myriad of insurmountable racist mountains non whites climb daily, both institutional and societal, this speed bump for whites is unconscionable and must be removed immediately!

Come back and whine about institutional anti white bias when anti white racism permeates every facet of your life but not when your race doesn't give you a free leg up that one time. Maybe talk to your right wing friends about why funding education for others is good for you as step one towards eliminating programs like this that address inequities in opportunities, and giving the less fortunate extra opportunity to overcome their situation is good for all. After reasonable basic educational opportunities are available for all, schools will still take the student's home life, finances, and extra curricular activities into account....with luck that will be on an individual basis eventually, but that's not likely until education reforms occur that give everyone an opportunity to display their skills on a more level field..

bcglorf said:

Being insulting and dismissive of people's frustrations at being racially discriminated against as your post appears to do just makes for more division still.

Why is some racism still ok?

bcglorf jokingly says...

Uneducated ignorant white guys talking about racism.

As every well educated non-trump voting, woke human being knows, racism is only something that can be done from White people to non-white people. Italians and Irish are white cultures and thus you can't be racist against them, by definition.

Joyner Lucas - I'm Not Racist

Jinx says...

I see a white man miming the n-word. Does that count? Didn't Joyner write and rap the whole thing, and isn't Joyner black? If you wanna disagree with what he is saying, then sure, but like, it's literally a black guy putting words in a white guy's mouth so I think you're overplaying your hand a little there mate.

C-note said:

Bet a friend this would make it to the top 15 due to the fact that every video with a white man using the N-word is like offering breast milk to a baby. As usual it was a good investment.

Why these Alabama voters are sticking by Roy Moore (HBO)

moonsammy says...

It's frightening how severe of a disconnect from reality all of these people are exhibiting. Obama, the half-black / half-white guy is the cause of racism today? Hate-filled Roy Moore is the good Christian?

Fox News certainly has brainwashing down to a damn science, as proven by this lot.

John Oliver - Joe Arpaio

newtboy says...

Jesus Fucking Christ...he was convicted by judges of violating a legal judicial order and the constitution...not by Obama of being an old white guy. You drank more Trump coolaid, but this cup has made you thoroughly un-American.

Is that really what you call the best sheriff...someone who unapologetically violates the law and constitution at every turn, who abuses not only the convicted (still evil and illegal, btw) but also the merely accused in a jail he himself bragged was a concentration camp. That's how he treats American citizens who've not been convicted of a thing....and it's how he deserves to spend the remainder of his life.

If I held you (or your daughter) in a 145 deg tent, feeding you rotten balogne, offering no medical treatment while hoping you die of heat stroke, you would call me a terrorist, but because Joe violated mostly Hispanics (not even Mexicans, mostly legal Hispanic Americans) you call him the best sheriff...and you still tell yourself you aren't racist.

He cost his county well over $140 million in settlements for his victims, with hundreds of millions more in the courts still being litigated. The number of deaths in his jail are exponentially higher than the norm, with most going uninvestigated and fewer (none) being prosecuted (they just pay off the family a few million taxpayer dollars and move on to the next victim).

You really have to be shoving you head even farther up your own ass to even give Arpaio and Trump the benefit of a doubt at this point...he's gleefully admitted all his crimes as if they aren't illegal, and Trump made him right, violating the constitution and thumbing your nose at the court orders is perfectly fine in Trump's America, so long as you support him.

Jesus Fucknig Christ, bob. Next you'll be supporting Trump's pardon of Sheik Muhammad and other Daesh fighters...who were also the victims of an "Obama witch hunt".

You claimed to hate Obama because you've been convinced by drug addled blowhards (Limbaugh, Jones) that he subverted our rule of law to fit his agenda...yet here you are cheerleading Trump and Arpaio uncontrovertibly doing exactly that. Just because you agree with this particular agenda (subverting the constitution to forcefully eject illegal immigrants of one specific nationality) doesn't change the act you claim to hate, subversion of our constitution, laws, and government.

bobknight33 said:

Arpaio's mom told him hill never be a great singer So he became a Americas best sheriff.

Trump just reversing Obama's witch hunt of this man.

Sargon of Akkad - This Week in Stupid (13/08/2017)

Asmo says...

Well you missed out the following highlights:

Awful optics of white guys standing around with tiki torches.
Proper breakdown of attendee groups
Short bit on the tiny ideological difference between antifa (communists) and white nationalists (nazis).
Commentary on Trump
More discussion on the rise of white hate which is creating new racists.
Left grading people by their skin colour (including lighter skinned people of colour)
etc

The entire point of the Daryl Davis sift was to show the importance of listening and hearing, to get to know the opinions of others. If you can't even spend 30 minutes listening to alternate opinions (and Sargon isn't even right wing/a supporter of the alt right...) that don't explicitly conform to everything you expect to hear, how do you ever learn?

It's the same confirmation bias that keeps the kkk on life support long after it should have died out.

newtboy said:

Gave him 10 minutes...9 1/2 too long.

Bill, what the hell were you thinking?

dag says...

Comment hidden because you are ignoring dag. (show it anyway)

The Nats are the old conservative white guy party - he deserves the ridicule.

Protests Against Trump Are Protests Against God

collegehumor-kinda racist? try diet racism!

bcglorf says...

For reference, race relations in Canada between white and aboriginal populations is if anything more strained than black and white is in the US. As a white guy, the only context in which I can observe the incarceration rate is if I specifically blame the incarceration rate on the police and judicial system being at fault for disproportionately targeting aboriginals. To observe that aboriginals are in fact responsible for a disproportionate number of crimes will get me labelled a racist. No amount of explanation about systemic disadvantages stacking the deck against aboriginal youth will cover that mark up here. To be sure there are circles where you can have that discussion, but you have to really know each other before you aren't going to worry about being classed as a racist straight away before any discussion can occur.

eric3579 said:

Really, simply observing the statistic? There must be context why it was said in the first place. I've brought up statistics regarding incarceration of blacks in America and have NEVER had the reaction you have had. I can only assume it's in context of why it's been brought up.

...unless you know a bunch of nut cases. I guess there is that possibility.

Cop Engaged In Traffic Stop Leads To Life Sentence

bobknight33 says...

You see a white guy walking a black dog and you see racism.
Every thing you do and see is through a racist prism.
Narrow minded NEWT

Clear violation my but.

newtboy said:

Oh shit...another clear posting violation.
You want to be banned, don't you?

Cop Engaged In Traffic Stop Leads To Life Sentence

SeesThruYou says...

I should turn myself in for being a rapist. What I mean is, I saw a story the other day about a white guy being convicted of rape. I'm white and I'm a guy, so therefore, I must also be a rapist, right? That's the general message that these kinds of "look, a cop breaking the law!" videos are trying to send out. Fortunately, most are smart enough to see through the bullshit.

When will people stop labeling all cops as bad because of the infinitesimal number that make mistakes?

Introducing The Vigilante App

Drachen_Jager says...

I like how they show a bunch of black men helping a white woman being attacked, then when the police arrive they cut to black.

We all know what happens next. Suspect runs free, cops shoot all the black guys dead.

Good job Vigilante app! You just solved Trump's voter imbalance problem.

(you know the white guy's voting Trump, they have so much in common, white, criminal, tendency to grab women against their will)

Angela Davis On Violence

Payback says...

It's kinda sad that white people can't appropriate epic fros like we do with everything else. Any white guy who isn't as intrinsically cool as Bob Ross, looks just stupid.



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