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Pig vs Cookie

transmorpher says...

I can't agree with that. It might somewhat address the environmental factor but it doesn't satisfy the ethical reasons (or the health reasons if you care for yourself). There is also no reason why you can't do both. Being vegan and not having kids is not mutually exclusive, and it would address the immediate problem, until the long term (population) problem is resolved.

Meat is never healthy in any amount, just like cigarettes aren't, I came to that conclusion after reading the above mentioned books. Regular doctors get their nutritional advice from organisations formed by companies that sell meat and coincidentally the drugs that treat the chronic illnesses the meat causes. It's a great business model that's for sure. Make money from the cause, make money from the treatment.

Something that does not exist will never be aware of it's lack of existence. Therefore it cannot be sad that it is not existing, since you need to exist to experience the concept of loss.

Like I said. No GOOD reasons to eat animals
Hedonism doesn't usually count as a good reason.

I'll eat a bloody raw steak on youtube if you can think of a good reason

Bill Maher: Is Donald Trump a Con Man?

newtboy says...

Not exactly.
Yes, most other politicians are liars (although I have yet to see a single charge of lying stick to Bernie) but Trump is head and shoulders above others in this one respect.
Just look to his 'victory speech' where he brought out Trump water, wine, steak, magazine, etc., each and every one of which turned out to be a fraud. Why do that? It's INSANE, making up easily fact checked lies to show how successful you are? WTF?!?
Or just look at his book, where he clearly tells you that his 'success in business' comes from hyper exaggeration and outright lies to trick people into deals with him, reneging on deals once he gets what he wants out of them, and attacking anyone that brings up his past lies or promises with such vitriol and outrageous threats that they invariably just go away rather than have any further dealings with him. That's not success at business, that's success at douchebaggery.

So yes, most others also lie, but no where near at the level or consistency we see from Trump. If he tells you something about ANYTHING, it's at least an 80% chance that the opposite of what he told you is the actual truth. That is a large difference from 'any other politician who tries to get your vote'.

coolhund said:

Uh... yeah... well... just like any other politician who tries to get your vote.
This is really getting pathetic.

Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Donald Trump

newtboy says...

OMG!!!
I could not disagree more.
Trump wrote a book about how to lie your way to 'success', the truth simply is not within that man. 2 days ago he claimed to not know the KKK or David Duke, but 8-10 years ago he refused to join any organization that Duke supported...so what happened? It can't be true he doesn't remember, he said he has the best memory in the world, remember? So he's just lying again, right? It is how he said you get what you want, just lie until you get it, then forget all the lies you told and insult and attack anyone bringing them up.
He's also totally incompetent, failing over and over at businesses, including one business that's nearly impossible to lose at, casinos, he's had 3, and bankrupted all of them 4 times! Then there are Trump steaks, vodka, magazine, mortgage, the game, airlines, and even his terribly named web site...gotrump.com (supposed to be go-trump, not got-rump). He claims to be a successful builder, but he doesn't build things, he just stamps his name on things others build. I think the reason he won't release his taxes is they will show he's actually lost money, never made any, and is only rich today because he was once massively rich (thanks to a huge inheritance and before that, no interest, 'never pay it back' loans from daddy) and lost a ton of money, both his and investors, not because he ever made money or was particularly successful at anything...contrary to what he says.
So, the contention that he 'knows the best people and will put together a team of greatness' goes against his record of putting together teams that fail miserably at businesses that are idiot proof! The contention that his big mouth will let us in on what he's doing supposes that he'll tell the truth...something he never does.
Clinton may have no spine, be a liar, and may wave whatever way the wind blows (all 3 of which Trump trumps her on), but for 'more evil', Trump is definitely your man.

Sagemind said:

I would never vote for Trump, but I would choose him over Clinton, because he seems less evil to me.
Less competent, but Clinton seems like she would be using her power for evil and screwing the poeple at every turn for in favor of herself and her business pals.

Trump on the other hand, could never run the country but he would choose the people who could. He has such a big mouth that we'd know everything he was doing, or at least, he'd trip over his words and we'd get to see right through him.

If it comes to picking the less evil, Trump is your man.

Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Donald Trump

Mookal says...

Goooo Raiders!

Wait is this not the NFL? Where we choose a side to root for based on arbitrary allegiances vaguely formed by perception, statistics, personal vendettas and disagreements with opinions, views and a native alliance attributed by regional position and upbringing? Whoever wins the Super Bowl, in the end we're all losers and the cycle will continue in the coming years.

Then again, I'm not one for getting involved in modern media politics. Vote for the least terrible and get back to work!

/Rant

Side note: Where the heck do I get my Trump steaks with Sharper Image (online) no longer carrying them?

Is that blood coming from your cooked steak?

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The secret lives of cows

artician says...

I grew up on my family's non-industrial cattle ranch (we weren't a meat factory). Almost every night for dinner for my entire childhood: home-grown steak, burgers, and whatever else you could make out of cow-chunks.

I. Had. No. Clue. How good I had it then.

(edit: I have empathy for animals and hate the meat-industry, for what it's worth)

The secret lives of cows

Searing meat to hold in flavor is wrong? wtf

newtboy says...

The juiciest steak will result from slow, just warm, moist smoking. You will get a 'crust', but the interior will retain almost all the juices. I smoke brisket for >24 hours with a wet pan between the smoke and the meat. It falls apart at the end and is more than juicy.

Searing meat to hold in flavor is wrong? wtf

braindonut says...

I've done it both ways. Both are delicious. But if I have a particularly expensive steak cut, I almost always cook slow and consistent, then sear at the end. Searing with a broiler, with some butter on top of the steak, is also quite nice

KrazyKat42 said:

I call bullshit on the steaks. Fast-seared steaks may retain less water, whatever. They taste better, and all good cooks would agree.

Searing meat to hold in flavor is wrong? wtf

worthwords says...

I think everyone agrees that searing/browning creates more flavour - but it is incorrect to use to phrase 'sealing in the juices'.
I like my steak blue which means high heat on the outside for just a few seconds for a crust and then only just warm i the middle.
I've never head sous vide steak but i'd be interested to compare the flavour

KrazyKat42 said:

I call bullshit on the steaks. Fast-seared steaks may retain less water, whatever. They taste better, and all good cooks would agree.

Searing meat to hold in flavor is wrong? wtf

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