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Fireman Rescues Dog Trapped in Freezing Lake Water

makach says...

tbh, I think he has a point. Thing is, as far as I think, risk was very low in this incident. Firefighters are professionals, they work with risk. they made a decision and worked with that.

same thing probably applies to humans, if they consider it unsafe to save a life they will most likely not risk a life.

newtboy said:

Quit.
Humans ARE animals.....disgusting, self centered, egotistical, destructive animals.
Your statement just lowered my respect for firemen by >20%

BSR (Member Profile)

transmorpher says...

I heavily edited my comment because it came out much harsher in text.

Sounds like you've been thru a lot. I can only wish you well.

I used to suffer from nephrotic syndrome, I nearly died in my teens. I had ulcers opening up on my skin, my joints so swollen they would not bend. Daily blood tests etc. A plant based diet saved my life and as you can tell I can not stop telling people about it.

It seems to solve almost every western chronic disease. And even though the science backs it up clearly doctors and the public see it in the same category as homeopathy. I don't know what is keeping you so ill but I can tell with confidence that if you eat the ForksOverKnives.com way you will have more time at the very least. I can only encourage you to try it for a week or two and feel it for yourself.

BSR said:

I've been living on borrowed time for a long time. I'm reminded of it every day. I'm not afraid. I only have now to live. How about you?

Woman steps into the line of fire to save a homeless man

newtboy says...

"He's got a knife!" (Points to discarded knife 20 ft away and continues to point his gun at bystanders, not just his suspect)
You've got a gun, asshole, and you're endangering the public with it. Should someone shoot you....for safety?
Having had a knife in their possession doesn't make a person criminal, dangerous, or threatening. It's simply an excuse to treat them that way.

Yep, she saved his life. That cop was clearly itching to shoot him....or someone. Dude needs retraining or reassigning to parking enforcement.

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BSR says...

I sent this once but I checked PRIVATE and it seems I sent it to myself.
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Your timing is impeccable! I'm laying in a tub of warm water ready to slit my wrists and tip my laptop into the tub with me.

You... you saved my LIFE!

I can never repay you for this.

Actually, had you not mentioned it, I never would have noticed.

But thanks for being worried about it. It would take way more than one negative vote to reduce the respect you have earned from me.

*fist bump*

newtboy said:

WTF?!? I didn't mean to downvote your comment...I have no idea how that happened, but I see it did. Sorry, it wasn't intentional, I agree with you.

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Jogger tries to kill woman in London

1961 HORRIFIC DRIVER'S EDUCATION FILM

bobknight33 says...

I somewhat agree. I thought about posting this for about a week.
But is is important for all to take a look. Even as a reminder. It could save your life or someone you love.

This used to be used in the classrooms back in the day. Most of the accidents were from operator error.


Today we have a false sense of safety in our cars. We are safer but still many are killed.



The other day a girl live streamed while driving and was having fun, as teens do. She lost control and killed her sister who was sitting in the back seat,

If her class were showed a truthful representation of what can happen. I would like to think that the probability of her accident would have been less?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/true-crime/wp/2017/07/24/man-we-about-to-die-teen-driver-arrested-after-live-streaming-crash-that-killed-her-siste
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First: Do No Harm. Second: Do No Pussy Stuff. | Full Frontal

ChaosEngine says...

FFS, I'm not trying to make an argument. As for watching the video, that wasn't a waste of my time, it was entertaining and informative unlike the article which was desperately trying to excuse an awful situation.

But fine, you want an argument? Let's do this.

"If one doesn't want the very small set of restrictions that go with some (not all) religiously affiliated hospitals, don't go there. One does have a choice."

You have that backwards. If you don't provide all the services required of a hospital, you don't get to call yourself a fucking hospital.

How would you feel if there was a Jehovahs Witness hospital that didn't do blood transfusions? Or a Christian Science hospital that refused to do medical treatment?
Both of those are real world examples where people died.

There's a big bloody difference between "not equipped" and "unwilling". In a local area, there might be several smaller medical facilities, but finding two major care centres across the road from each other is pretty rare.

And it's a bit fucking rich to bring up false equivalencies when you just compared unavailability of potential life-saving medical treatment to someone whinging over not getting a big mac at kfc.

As for the article:

"First, Bee ignores the fact that Catholic teaching on human life and reproduction is a fundamental, longstanding tradition of the Church, passed down from one generation to the next for centuries. "

Irrelevant. Next...

"But Catholic priests, bishops, and cardinals don’t give “reproductive advice”; they articulate the truth about human life and reproductive ethics in accord with Catholic teaching."

Really? They "articulate the truth"... as I said before, this is self-evidently complete and utter fucking bullshit.

"the claim that women will be without care if they are refused service at a Catholic hospital."
Er, even the article acknowledges that Bee understands this point and makes the point that in an emergency situation, you go to the nearest available centre that can treat you.

"This is another straw man. In most cases, when women want a particular reproductive service, they have ample time to locate and attend a non-Catholic hospital. "

Yes, and in most cases, people do. BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE FUCKING TALKING ABOUT.

"Even in the few emergency situations — which Bee presents as if they are the vast majority of cases"

No, she really doesn't.

"Though it sometimes might be inconvenient for a woman to travel to a non-Catholic hospital, the inconvenience surely does not outweigh the importance of conscience rights, which demand that Catholic hospitals not be forced to provide procedures that Catholicism deems morally wrong."

Yes, "inconvenient" is exactly the right word for a woman who is probably in the middle of the worst day of her life.
I mean, she might end up "inconveniently" dead, but hey, we wouldn't want to stop catholics telling other people how to live, would we?

"In reality, a direct abortion (in which a doctor intentionally kills a child) is never medically necessary to save a mother’s life. If a woman is having a miscarriage, having her child killed in an abortion will do nothing to improve her health or save her life."

And here we come to strawman of all strawmen. The problem is NOT that a woman needs a "direct abortion", it's that she may a surgical procedure that kills the child inadvertently. And this isn't theoretical, women have died from this.

The fundamental point is that religion has no place in medicine. If a patient wishes to refuse certain treatments because of their beliefs, well, they're an idiot, but it's their choice to be an idiot.

But a hospital doesn't get to refuse treatment based on some bronze-age belief. If the treatment is legal in its jurisdiction and they have the capability to provide it, they must provide it. Businesses should not be allowed to refuse service on religious grounds ("I am religiously opposed to treating gay people or blacks!!")

As you said yourself "If you don't like it, go work somewhere else".

harlequinn said:

Once again, not an argument. At least you admit you don't have one to give.

I don't buy the "it's a waste of my time" bullshit. You "wasted" your time watching the video, reading the article, replying to the link, replying to my comment, etc. Suddenly when you're called out on your lack of argument you don't have the time. Bwahahahaaha.

Somehow I get the feeling you don't work in the field (medicine) like me, and if you are able to form a coherent argument about it, it will be from a layperson's perspective.

Creationism and homeopathy are false equivalences. Not even a good try.

Go read my reply to JustSaying above. This is how hospitals work.

A two-year-old resolves a moral dilemma

Babymech says...

I always thought this 'problem' was bullshit - not because I dreamed of being some special snowflake 'outside the box' little shit who just wants to bypass the difficulty in question, but because the answer is so obvious. If you have perfect certainty that you can either save 1 life or 5 lives, then that's the same as choosing to kill 1 person or 5 persons. Perfect certainty makes inaction as culpable as action. It's only in reality, where there's uncertainty, that you can balk at taking action.

In the same way I find the moral dilemma of killing Hitler as a baby to be ridiculous. If you, as a time traveler from 2016, balk at the idea of going back to 1889 to kill baby Hitler, but you're fine with going back to 1939 to kill adult Hitler and maybe prevent WW2, then you essentially want hundreds of thousands of people to die in concentration camps just to make you feel good about your murderous action. Ridiculous.

Smarter Every Day -- Why you put on your oxygen mask first

StukaFox says...

I hate it when people don't pay attention to the safety instructions on planes. You can stop looking at your laptop or cellphone for a minute to learn what will save you life - AND MINE - if something goes wrong.

They also ought to include "In the event of an emergency landing, LEAVE YOUR FUCKING CARRY-ON BEHIND AND GET OFF THE PLANE, ASSHOLE."

What's the Value of a Life?

noims says...

Slightly off-topic, but that's a pretty optimistic approach. Most of us wouldn't spend 10 euro to save the life of a faceless unknown person on another continent.

Some of us would do it, but only if we got personally thanked by that person.

It's not evil, it's just human nature that we care more about people to whom we have a closer connection.

Cop Light Bling

bareboards2 says...

That is some horrible dancing. Truly horrible. He can sing (maybe) and he has absolutely, painfully no rhythm.

And.

Save a life, drivers. Move the heck over.

Excavator operator saves young deer stuck in mud

transmorpher says...

Even if the lamb has the best treatment in the world, to eat it, it has to be killed as an infant, it's only months old.

I'm not blaming anyone, I was just as oblivious as anyone else to all of this for most of my life, and that's why I like to point it out these days, and perhaps help someone just like the younger me to identify the inconsistencies in the thought (or lack of thought) process. It takes a lot of cognitive dissonance to see the beauty of a young deer and feel obligated to save her life one minute, and next minute eat something just as young and precious without even a single neuron firing about what had to happen to the lamb in order for it to end up on a plate.

People will stop for ducks crossing a round, and then go through a fried chicken drive through. People will spend 1/2 their lunch break admiring pictures of kittens, but eat a lamb or veal (and when you compare a lamb to a kitten they look very similar and just as cute).

If that younger me was reading this, I know I'd be getting angry and frustrated at this comment, ready to throw a barrage of counter arguments such as "lions eat animals". But that is only a good thing, that frustration, anger and annoyance is the logical side your brain fighting tradition and habit side. It's a good thing if it's causing you frustration, because it means you do have a logical side at least and even perhaps on a subconscious level the brain is trying to work out the inconsistencies


And of course sheep are very much victims of factory farming these day : http://www.animalsaustralia.org/media/press_releases.php?release=150

Khufu said:

Actually Lamb would be a great choice because they aren't factory farmed so they most likely were treated well and were happy.

Doctors of the Isle of Man TT

eric3579 says...

Such a good talk. Guy has a great sense of humor. Him and his kind are real life superheroes. Call me impressed. Makes me wonder how it feels to save a life.

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