Seriously though, rust converter is a better idea. Scrape of most off the rust, then let the converter eat up what's left and poop out primer.

World's First Laser Rust Remover has been added as a related post - related requested by oritteropo on that post.

World's First Laser Rust Remover has been added as a related post - related requested by oritteropo on that post.

It is actually real, in fact there are multiple wattage models. This is the first one dedicated to rust removal, but I've heard all of them are crazy expensive.

World's First Laser Rust Remover has been added as a related post - related requested by eric3579 on that post.

World's First Laser Rust Remover has been added as a related post - related requested by eric3579 on that post.

HOLY CRAP!!!! That's AWESOME! WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT!!!!!
It does make me wonder what breathing vaporized rust does to a person's lungs, but face masks or fans can solve any issue there.
*quality tool for metal workers. WOW!

I stick to people who believe in America.

Voodoo the fetus that got away from the abortionist.


You can stand with Pedophile Bill and criminal Hillary or an a bum named Bernie who never had a real job till he was 40,


http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/bernie-sanders-the-bum-who-wants-your-money/


Bernie Sanders, The Bum Who Wants Your Money


2016: Democratic presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders said Monday his parents would never have thought their son would end up in the Senate and running for president. No kidding. He was a ne’er-do-well into his late 30s.

“It’s certainly something that I don’t think they ever believed would’ve happened,” the unabashed socialist remarked during CNN’s Democratic town hall forum, as polls show him taking the lead in Iowa and New Hampshire.


He explained his family couldn’t imagine his “success,” because “my brother and I and Mom and Dad grew up in a three-and-a-half-room rent-controlled apartment in Brooklyn, and we never had a whole lot of money.”

It wasn’t as bad as he says. His family managed to send him to the University of Chicago. Despite a prestigious degree, however, Sanders failed to earn a living, even as an adult. It took him 40 years to collect his first steady paycheck — and it was a government check.


“I never had any money my entire life,” Sanders told Vermont public TV in 1985, after settling into his first real job as mayor of Burlington.

Sanders spent most of his life as an angry radical and agitator who never accomplished much of anything. And yet now he thinks he deserves the power to run your life and your finances — “We will raise taxes;” he confirmed Monday, “yes, we will.”

One of his first jobs was registering people for food stamps, and it was all downhill from there.

Sanders took his first bride to live in a maple sugar shack with a dirt floor, and she soon left him. Penniless, he went on unemployment. Then he had a child out of wedlock. Desperate, he tried carpentry but could barely sink a nail. “He was a shi**y carpenter,” a friend told Politico Magazine. “His carpentry was not going to support him, and didn’t.”

Then he tried his hand freelancing for leftist rags, writing about “masturbation and rape” and other crudities for $50 a story. He drove around in a rusted-out, Bondo-covered VW bug with no working windshield wipers. Friends said he was “always poor” and his “electricity was turned off a lot.” They described him as a slob who kept a messy apartment — and this is what his friends had to say about him.

The only thing he was good at was talking … non-stop … about socialism and how the rich were ripping everybody off. “The whole quality of life in America is based on greed,” the bitter layabout said. “I believe in the redistribution of wealth in this nation.”

So he tried politics, starting his own socialist party. Four times he ran for Vermont public office, and four times he lost — badly. He never attracted more than single-digit support — even in the People’s Republic of Vermont. In his 1971 bid for U.S. Senate, the local press said the 30-year-old “Sanders describes himself as a carpenter who has worked with ‘disturbed children.’ ” In other words, a real winner.

He finally wormed his way into the Senate in 2006, where he still ranks as one of the poorest members of Congress. Save for a municipal pension, Sanders lists no assets in his name. All the assets provided in his financial disclosure form are his second wife’s. He does, however, have as much as $65,000 in credit-card debt.

For me, winter means you don't drive like you do during the rest of the year, it's how I learned to drive and so it's what I'm used to. I did buy cheap all season tires recently and I do have some regrets there, just not enough to stop using them. I don't consider myself to be all that great a driver, it's mostly just patience and paying attention.
@newtboy
I guess I'm not rich enough for a winter only car, but I drove a Dodge Neon for a dozen years or so and at the end it only had a little rust. While I have no doubt that winter is hell on cars, I suspect that sometimes the rust factor might be a bit exaggerated.

How about, instead of Amos, you open to the book of Luke.

"No one can serve two masters. For you will hate one and love the other, or be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money." (NLT, Luke 16:13)

Or Matthew

"Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also. (NIV, Matthew 6:19-21)

But it's obvious these guys don't actually practice the religion they preach. They're gifted con-men, like most highly-successful American figures who tout their Christianity (looking at you GOP field).

Hey Rflagg, you asked a good question. Why, if you believe that you do here will effect your eternity, would you live according the system of this world? Jesus gives us an answer:

Matthew 6:19-21

Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal.

But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal.

For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

Your heart condition will determine how you live. If you love God with all of your heart, you will live for Him and His Kindom, and your life will reflect that. If your heart is for the things of this world, that is what you live for. This is why the scripture warns us:

1 John 2:15-17

Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

For all that is in the world--the desires of the flesh, the desires of the eyes, and the pride of life--is not from the Father but from the world.

The world is passing away along with its desires, but whoever does the will of God remains forever.

When it says do not love the world, it doesn't mean the people of the world, but the system of the world. If you live in the west you are used to seeing nominal Christians practicing a lukewarn faith. This isn't how it is in many parts of the world; there are many Christians out there with their eyes set on eternity. Many Christians here in America, as well, but they don't sound a trumpet before themselves so you don't see them.

This video, like many others, has such a mistaken view of what the scriptures say about faith; it is referring to a blind faith whereas the scripture calls us to believe based on what God has revealed to us. There is a living God who reveals the truth of His word, and everyone who is seeking Him will find Him.

New in this case, means a perfectly good and well running vehicle free from rust. I'd expect someone to trash a old junker, but this truck doesn't look worth trashing.

I saw this sort of thing happen in big college parking lot once. There was freezing rain the night before, nobody salted, and there was a quarter inch of ice covering the entire surface. Then, at about 10 in the morning after 100 or so cars had arrived, it got REAL windy.

By the time I left at noon, cars were all over the place. Crashed into each other (doing serious damage), wedged together in improbable groupings. A few had even gone over the hill leading up to the lot.

Miraculously, my car was untouched and exactly where I left it. I believe this was because it was by far the crappiest car in the lot and generates a natural repellent force. Could have been all the rusted out holes in the bodywork too.