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Holy shit. This might be the first time the findthumb invocation has actually worked!

Metallica was better...

Tags for this video have been changed from 'Unforgiven, Fade To Bluegrass, Matelica' to 'Unforgiven, Fade To Bluegrass, Metallica' - edited by dag

oh, and metallica's black album was released in the 1990's not 1980

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and a dupe of http://videosift.com/video/The-Big-4-On-Stage-Together-Live-Playi
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I do believe the other one is a dupe of this one. This was posted 11 months ago. The other one was posted 4 months ago.

The problem artists and bands have with piracy is it does affect live shows. The labels provide money to the artist to get a tour off the ground. For many young bands, without that starter money they wouldn't even be able to get started, therefore stunting their growth and ability to do a tour to make money. Lars of metallica said exactly this would happen. That being said, the issue isn't privacy bringing down the music industry. It's the shit the labels are trying to peddle off as music that's bringing it down. People don't want to go buy a shit cd. Most have two maybe 3 good songs if that. So people download the one or get the album and only listen to the one. If the quality went back up so would sales despite piracy. If I like a band I buy their cd even if I can download it because they are good and I know it supports them. Fans are going to keep paying for shit.

Unless the artist has their own label, like Metallica, Madonna, and several others, they make 10x the income from concerts than recorded music.

1,000,000 iTunes songs, they get MAYBE 5% = $20,000

10,000 sold out stadium, $75/tkt, most can get 50% = $350,000

The labels make money off albums and iTunes and whatever, the artist makes their money performing. Which, if you think about it, makes sense. Once the labels die, and advertising companies take over the industry, the world (of music) will be a better place. Recorded music needs to be looked at as advertising.

Let's see -- 1986 -- what did the metal gods deliver us in this year? Queensryche came out with a decent album, Candlemass released their very first album, Metallica's greatest work, Master of the Puppets came out; Iron Maiden had an alright album (not really in any of my top ten lists, but it's Maiden so it counts for something), Tony Iommi's solo album with Glenn Hughes of Deep Purple, Stryper's To Hell with the Devil (Haha, I kid), Dio's Intermission, Slayer's Reign in Blood, Fates Warning's Awaken the Guardian, Megadeth's Peace Sells But Who's Buying, and Judas Priest's Turbo.

It really isn't their fault that they're all so wasted, this year was a powder keg of pure metal madness!

@WKB

True, but when the Columbine school shooting was perpetrated, conservatives were quick to point the finger at Marilyn Manson's lyrics. I'm not saying they were right, and I'm not saying that Fox deserves all of the blame here either.

I do think though, that the people pumping that kind of rhetoric onto the airwaves deserve SOME responsibility for atrocities like this. Allow me to compare the Woodstock of 1970 to the Woodstock of '99 for an example.

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>>>>>>The 1970 Woodstock (billed as "3 days of Peace and Music") resulted in reports like this:

"The New York Times covered the prelude to the festival and the move from Wallkill to Bethel.[13] Barnard Collier, who reported from the event for the Times, asserts that he was pressured by on-duty editors at the paper to write a misleadingly negative article about the event. According to Collier, this led to acrimonious discussions and his threat to refuse to write the article until the paper's executive editor, James Reston, agreed to let him write the article as he saw fit. The eventual article dealt with issues of traffic jams and minor lawbreaking, but went on to emphasize cooperation, generosity, and the good nature of the festival goers.

When the festival was over, Collier wrote another article about the exodus of fans from the festival site and the lack of violence at the event. The chief medical officer for the event and several local residents were quoted as praising the festival goers."

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>>>>>>The 1999 version of the event (featuring bands like Metallica, Rage Against the Machine, Korn, Limp Bizkit, Kid Rock and the Red Hot Chili Peppers who are all, dare I say, a bit angrier [lyrically speaking] than the likes of Arlo Guthrie or Joan Baez) is painted in a much different color:

"Some crowd violence and looting was reported during the Saturday night performance by Limp Bizkit, including a rendition of the song "Break Stuff". Reviewers of the concert criticized Limp Bizkit frontman Fred Durst as "irresponsible" for encouraging the crowd to destructive behavior.

Violence escalated the next night during the final hours of the concert as Red Hot Chili Peppers performed. A group of peace promoters led by an independent group called Pax had distributed candles to those stopping at their booth during the day, intending them for a candlelight vigil to be held during the Red Hot Chili Peppers' performance of the song "Under the Bridge". During the band's set, the crowd began to light the candles, some also using them to start bonfires. The hundreds of empty plastic water bottles that littered the lawn/dance area were used as fuel for the fire.

After the Red Hot Chili Peppers were finished with their main set, the audience was informed about "a bit of a problem." An audio tower caught fire, and the fire department was called in to extinguish it.

Back onstage for an encore, the Chili Peppers' lead singer Anthony Kiedis remarked how amazing the fires looked from the stage, comparing them to a scene in the film Apocalypse Now.[12] The band proceeded to play "Sir Psycho Sexy", followed by their rendition of Jimi Hendrix's "Fire". Kiedis later stated in his autobiography, Scar Tissue that Jimi Hendrix's sister had asked the Chili Peppers to play "Fire" in honor of Jimi and his performance at the original Woodstock festival, and that they were not playing it to encourage the crowd.

Many large bonfires were burning high before the band left the stage for the last time. Participants danced in circles around the fires. Looking for more fuel, some tore off panels of plywood from the supposedly inviolable security perimeter fence. ATMs were tipped over and broken into, trailers full of merchandise and equipment were forced open and burglarized, and abandoned vendor booths were turned over, and set afire.[13]

MTV, which had been providing live coverage, removed its entire crew. MTV host Kurt Loder described the scene in the July 27, 1999 issue of USA Today:

"It was dangerous to be around. The whole scene was scary. There were just waves of hatred bouncing around the place, (...) It was clear we had to get out of there.... It was like a concentration camp. To get in, you get frisked to make sure you're not bringing in any water or food that would prevent you from buying from their outrageously priced booths. You wallow around in garbage and human waste. There was a palpable mood of anger."

After some time, a large force of New York State Troopers, local police, and various other law enforcement arrived. Most had crowd control gear and proceeded to form a riot-line that flushed the crowd to the northwest, away from the stage located at the eastern end of the airfield. Few of the crowd offered strong resistance and they dispersed quickly back toward the campground and out the main entrance."

>>>>>>See also, this poignant response from a person in the crowd: http://newsroom.mtv.com/2009/08/17/woodstock-legacy/ (crowdmember comments @ 2:20)

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Now now easy there big fella, before you start telling me about how correlation does not imply causation consider this: an article recently published by the American Journal of Psychiatry concluded that:

"Childhood exposure to parental verbal aggression was associated, by itself, with moderate to large effects on measures of dissociation, limbic irritability, depression, and anger-hostility." Furthermore, "Combined exposure to verbal abuse and witnessing of domestic violence was associated with extraordinarily large adverse effects, particularly on dissociation. This finding is consonant with studies that suggest that emotional abuse may be a more important precursor of dissociation than is sexual abuse."
See: http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/163/6/993

Maybe not the best example I could have found but I've already spent WAY too much time on this post. The point is, WORDS carry a lot of power. Even if the pundits (right OR left) never came out and said it, the implication of violence was certainly there at times.

I KNOW Fox has lead the charge of fear mongering in the name of ratings but anyone else who subscribed to that level of attack should share some of the blame as well. Again, not saying that they should take all or even a lot of the blame, but they should be responsible for the violent laced rhetoric they spout.

I say STOP THE AD HOMINEM ATTACKS and we'll see less violence against PEOPLE and (hopefully) more enthralling arguments where the IDEAS are being attacked (which I'm all for) :-)

p.s. sry for the huge post but i was on a roll

I lost all respect for that Hetfield guy when I watched Metallica's Some Kind Of Monster and listened to him whine like a bitch about the other guys practicing "his" song when he wasn't there. What a douchebag.

Thanks for the promote!

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I think I like this version better. *promote

Tags for this video have been changed from 'pole, dance, dancer, strength, Felix, Cane, wooooooo' to 'pole, dance, dancer, strength, Felix, Cane, metallica' - edited by xxovercastxx

metallica - instant upvote.

I don't think he kicked the child in the face. What I saw was the balloon, ball, whatever the fuck, he kicked hit the child in the face.

http://www.avclub.com/articles/metallicas-kirk-hammett-kicks-children-in-the-face,47808/

The title and description of this video is a deception. Given plain evidence of the situation, I can see why youtube would take the other videos down.

Because people are running around sayin', "Kick Hammett kicked someone in the face." They do this shit to get ratings and hits. See http://gawker.com/5691581/metallica-guitarist-accidentally-kicks-a-child, for an example. I also present this post as exhibit A.

A hearty downvote.