JiggaJonson

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BSR says...

Oh the anger, the anger.

These movies are targeted toward children and also adults. Mostly children.

Children can and want to relate to the heros. Take Woody for example. The kids love Woody. They understand all of Woody's happy times and sad times. All his strengths and weaknesses. Woody is a lot like them. By design, the kids are Woody.

When Woody gets tortured, kids are very sensitive to that. Some kids more than others relate all to well. Those kids are the ones that these movies are reaching out to. The ones that see the horrors of dad beating mom. Spanking. Bullies at school. Handicapped children. On and on.

Because kids love Woody they know he understands their pain and fear. Woody has relatable problems and Woody is going to show them how to cope in deep ways that they can understand.

They understand Woody has great friends that can help him. And Woody would do anything to help his friends.

Sometimes if you look at something and see only bad, don't let anger get in the way of finding the good.

JiggaJonson said:

I could go on, but I hope to make this simple point:
These films do NOT have to include a torture scene. It's simply odd to me that it appears so often, instilling the idea early on that torture works for getting information or cooperation out of people.

Finally, I point to one of many pieces of research on the matter https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5325643/

Mordhaus says...

thanks!

JiggaJonson said:

*quality

As someone who watches a LOT of kid's movies with my daughter, I notice an alarming regularity of torture in children's media.

You like Pixar movies, right? Pick a Pixar film, ALL of them have a torture scene. It's bizarre.

It's late, so I'll be succinct about these, but let's define torture as follows:
Torture - noun - the act of deliberately inflicting severe physical or psychological suffering on someone by another as a punishment or in order to fulfill some desire of the torturer or force some action from the victim

Fair?

This is a short list I can think of off the top of my head

Toy Story
Sid tortures Woody "Where are your rebel friends NOW?" as he burns his forehead

Toy Story 2
Stinky Pete tortures Woody "You can go to Japan together or in pieces. Now GET IN THE BOX!"

Toy Story 3
Buzz gets put in the "time-out chair" with a burlap bag put over his head and is forced to turn on his friends

Monster's Inc.
Mike is put in the "scream extractor" and is interrogated "Where's the kid?" as the extractor inches towards his face.

Wreck it Ralph
Ralph asks "What's going on in this candy coated Heart of Darkness?" Sour Bill tries to run away but Ralph picks him up and threatens to lick him. "I'll take it to my grave" "Fair enough" and Ralph pops Sour Bill in his mouth "Had enough?" "OKAY OKAY I'LL TALK!"

Cars 2
The green-gasoline in his tank, the spy car is put in front of the radiation shooting camera and is interrogated about who the other spy is and who has the information about the green gas he recovered that could unravel their plan to get revenge for being discriminated against for being "lemons." His engine explodes (he's killed?) in spite of giving up the information.

The Incredibles
Mr. Incredible is restrained via some black goop and asked about his family's whereabouts on the island.

Finding Nemo
Near the end of the film when Dory finds Nemo but Marlin has wandered off thinking Nemo was dead, they need to know which way Marlin went and come across the little crabs sitting on the pipe "heyyyyyyyyheyyyyyyyyyyheyyyyyyyy" "Yeah I saw where he went, but I'm not telling you, and there's no way you're gonna make me." Dory lifts him up and threatens to feed him to the seagulls sitting on a small rock until he starts screaming "OKAY ILL TALK ILL TALK HE WENT TO THE FISHING GROUNDS!!!"

I could go on, but I hope to make this simple point:
These films do NOT have to include a torture scene. It's simply odd to me that it appears so often, instilling the idea early on that torture works for getting information or cooperation out of people.

Finally, I point to one of many pieces of research on the matter https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5325643/

siftbot says...

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newtboy jokingly says...

I've been saying that for over a year, only half joking.

His contradictory stances make me think he's a whole troll farm, used by multiple agents who don't coordinate very well.
Just yesterday he was trying the ploy 'Obama got fined for these crimes more than anyone, he's the real criminal here', today he's moved on to 'these aren't crimes' (with no explanation how so many are convicted of or plead guilty to non crimes).

It's as if two different people came up with two horribly conceived, contradictory "arguments" (they barely rise to that level, being poorly thought out and not based in fact or law) and posted them using the same account.

Then there's his writing mannerisms that often closely resemble a cheap Russian/English translation program, all too often misusing common phrases and terms in ways native English speakers would never speak.
Do you recall him ever saying something derogatory about Putin? I don't.

Granted, it's not proof, but evidence is mounting and there's little to contradict the theory.

JiggaJonson said:

@newtboy
I think it's time we start seriously considering the question:
Is bobknight33 a Russian troll?

bobknight33 says...

And what did Flynn do?
Who interviewed Flynn that led to charges? Biased lead FBI Agent Peter Strzok,

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/04/27/house-report-backs-claim-that-fbi-agents-did-not-think-flynn-lied-despite-guilty-plea.html

Please pick a new "bad" guy.

JiggaJonson said:

Rather than edit the previous post, I'll add a comment here about why I pulled Flynn out of the group to cite:

Flynn is the most blatant example of the bunch. There are many human shields ready to take the fall, but there's a problem with Flynn compared to the rest. We know what he knew when. We know what Trump knew about Flynn and when.

Take a look at a search on Trump and Flynn from Jan-Feb before he was fired in 2017: https://goo.gl/4w7uo8

His son was fired prior to that, but he had some strong words on Twitter in May of this year https://twitter.com/mflynnJR/status/998660562925113345

bobknight33 says...

So what is the connection with Trump?

Mueller has caught up some folks for past deeds, which is good. What connections are there with the election?

JiggaJonson said:

Oh hey! Remember that judge who questioned Robert Mueller's authority? He ruled on the case today

"The May 17 Appointment Order plainly authorizes the investigation of indirect links between Trump campaign officials and the Russian government in addition to more direct connections. In this regard, the May 17 Appointment Order authorizes the Special Counsel to investigate defendant’s ties with individuals financially and politically supported by the Russian government, even where, as here, those individuals are not themselves members of the Russian government. "

So, being the honest person you so obviously are, I'm happy to have helped you to see the light.

siftbot says...

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