A "fighting type of movie" is found in Mortal Kombat or Street Fighter... or anything by JCVD. Gladiator is not in this category. Unless you just ffwd to all the parts where someone was fighting?

Ah. I like those fighting type of movies like Gladiator.

"Make the United States safer". Oh, ffs. Anyone else immediately think of Ben Franklin when you hear this bullshit line? I'll trade a 9/11 and a Boston bombing every decade for the governement staying the hell out of my phone and my computer. (Omg, am I starting to sound like goptea'er?). This crap that Obama spewed the other night, roughly "you can't have both 100% security and 100% privacy", is the ol' statue-of-liberty play. He's implying that these programs provide 100% security. You can dismiss everything he says after that because his premise is FALSE. You can dismiss everything he said before that as well, but that's another rant.

And Mika, you can't demand a "yes or no" answer when you just don't want to hear the explanation. There is a very good reason why you weren't paid as much as Joe, and you should thank your lucky stars they still let you read the intros. And stop with the huffing and tsk'ing and eyerolls. You're starting to look and sound llike one of those shrill FOX "analysts".

Willie, what a dumb question. Of course there is a difference between state secrets that do not inpinge on our freedoms and rights of privacy and those that do, you knob. Some would even say the ultimate purpose of maintaining state secrets is to assist in protecting the very American freedoms and rights that are being grossly abused by these programs. The difference between Manning and Snowden is that Manning exposed warcrimes and other abuses being committed on brown people, and Snowden exposed an invasive, Orwellian-level spying and data-mining infrastructure being used on Americans by our own government. So yeah, a little different. So what? Both heroes. And it infuriates me when our government goes after them and tries to paint them as treasonists. They have committed no crimes against America because the government is not America. It's straight-up self-preservation, and has nothing to do with protecting the citizens of this country and the tenets on which this country was founded. What Manning and Snowden did, however, does.

There was once a time when democracies around the world, whether imminent, new, or struggling, could look to the US for inspiration. Now, we could learn much today from a country like Turkey. They get it. It took a few whacks with police batons, and lots and lots of tear-gas, but they get it now. They get beat down, and get smarter and angrier. We just get dumber and dumber no matter what this government says or does.

“The IQ and the life expectancy of the average American recently passed each other in opposite directions.”
― George Carlin

“Go back to bed, America. Your government has figured out how it all transpired. Go back to bed, America. Your government is in control again. Here. Here's American Gladiators. Watch this, shut up. Go back to bed, America. Here is American Gladiators. Here is 56 channels of it! Watch these pituitary retards bang their fucking skulls together and congratulate you on living in the land of freedom. Here you go, America! You are free to do what we tell you! You are free to do what we tell you!”
― Bill Hicks

Yea, that's generally the attitude of the people sneaking into the country "I wish I had enough money to make it 100s of miles on a raft or through the desert to freedom." Must be a charmed life where your comfort outweighs your apparent need to leave. Yup...go back to sleep, shang.>> ^shang:

we have reached the same level of the movie Idiocrasy now...
the government's IQ is below retarded, the national average IQ is now hitting retard levels...
As Bill Hicks said "Go back to sleep America, go watch your 'American Gladiators', go back to sleep'
I wish I had the momey to leave this country, so embarrassed to live in it.

we have reached the same level of the movie Idiocrasy now...

the government's IQ is below retarded, the national average IQ is now hitting retard levels...

As Bill Hicks said "Go back to sleep America, go watch your 'American Gladiators', go back to sleep'

I wish I had the momey to leave this country, so embarrassed to live in it.

>> ^Yogi:

>> ^bmacs27:
@JiggaJonson
Only one player has ever died on field in the NFL. He died of a heart attack. Your story comes from before they wore helmets and American Football was more closely related to rugby.
89 players have died on field during sanctioned FIFA matches.
What was your point?

Kids die every year playing this game...also people die from injuries as a result from playing in the NFL and Football in general. Almost every year in this nation there is a story simply about a kid dying in practice during the summer due to overheating or exhaustion. That's why they forced us to drink TONS of water until our stomachs hurt. But because they don't die ON THE FIELD that is supposed to mean something? Do you think that because tons of people die in the hospital of cancer that hospitals give people cancer?


Yeah, this whole thing is a bunch of bullshit. They're modern gladiators, and people who tell themselves otherwise are lying to themselves.

To read some of the comments though, you'd think I said I laugh when people suffer heart attacks and collapse.
Read my comment below yours when you get a chance. -jj

"We're not gladiators, this isn't the roman colosseum."

Maybe not literally but it is the modern Roman Colosseum in a falling Empire. You are wrong Eric Winston, the fans get to vote with their cheers, they get to decide what is worth their time or not. You can scold the masses all you want, but in the end you get paid because of them. That is the reality of the situation. If these people act horribly you should go do something else and I would commend you. Nascar fans don't watch for the NO Crashes, I don't see any of the drivers whining about that. (They probably have, I don't watch Nascar, if they do though they should quit Nascar)

I agree with virtually everyone's opinion here except for @videosiftbannedme and @syncron and all I have to say to them is you have no idea what's going to happen to this kid in prison. Yes I said kid even though your legally an adult in Texas at 17, this kid is going to go through hell in prison. The first thing that happens to any male prisoner under 40 in prison is they get checked at the door. Getting "checked" in prison usually consists of at least one convict and as many as 4 or 5 convicts simply walking up to the guy and beating the living shit out of him. It works like Fight Club if this is your first time to prison you HAVE to fight. If there is more than one guy doing the checking they "backdoor" you which means they fight you one at a time with no breaks between fights as soon as the first guy has his fill the next one steps up and they can all go as many rounds as they feel like. If you don't fight them they will turn you into a bitch, take your food your bunk your commissary money, your fucking toothbrush, everything and you basically become a slave at that point. Even if you do fight there is no way to win they make sure the fights are very one sided. And all this is simply his first day in prison. After that depending on how his check goes things will get worse or they will become living hell literally. Some prisons are know as gladiator camps because anyone this guys age is going to fight every single day he's there period like it not. Here's the real kicker too the fights are usually started by people with very long sentences who don't give a flyin fuck what happens to them if they get caught. But if this kid gets caught fighting they will add time to his sentence by adding assault charges in their military style kangaroo court. So he's pretty well fucked from the start.

So this kid who's most heinous crime was a little graffiti will spend 8 years fighting guys twice his size every single day. Then they will release him back into society and call him reformed. Tell me what do you think you would be like after something like that? Would you ever be able to call yourself normal again? Would you be able to sleep at night without jumping up at every single noise you hear?

Some people simply don't get it. Prison is only good for one thing putting people away for life. They DO NOT rehabilitate ANYONE. They only make things worse they should never be used for petty crimes. Putting people in prison only breeds hatred inside those people. It breeds fear as well, fear of going back. That's why people who are on parole when faced with the possibility of going back to prison usually commit suicide. Prisons are for murders, Prisons are for rapists, Prisons are for child molesters, Prisons are for sociopaths.

Prisons are not for graffiti.

My Gladiators are superior.

>> ^direpickle:

I'm almost positive that this is here somewhere.
I found a killed copy, but I can't find one that's been sifted through.

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Oh! you're right. Great movie though.>> ^Deano:

>> ^dag:
Master and Commander was good.>> ^Deano:
I'd argue Scott has not made a decent film since Gladiator.
All of this ties into my impressions of the trailer. I've not seen it but in some respects it reminds me of Alien and that bit with Theron wielding a flame-thrower (always a fucking flame-thrower) looked quite funny. In Alien we simply had Ripley refusing admittance.
One review said something that made sense; it's good but it's made for the multi-plex.
Like a lot of art these days there are grandiose claims but the commercial reality intrudes and undermines.


Just checked that he's a producer on that one but did not direct.

>> ^dag:

Master and Commander was good.>> ^Deano:
I'd argue Scott has not made a decent film since Gladiator.
All of this ties into my impressions of the trailer. I've not seen it but in some respects it reminds me of Alien and that bit with Theron wielding a flame-thrower (always a fucking flame-thrower) looked quite funny. In Alien we simply had Ripley refusing admittance.
One review said something that made sense; it's good but it's made for the multi-plex.
Like a lot of art these days there are grandiose claims but the commercial reality intrudes and undermines.



Just checked that he's a producer on that one but did not direct.

>> ^dag:

Master and Commander was good.>> ^Deano:
I'd argue Scott has not made a decent film since Gladiator.
All of this ties into my impressions of the trailer. I've not seen it but in some respects it reminds me of Alien and that bit with Theron wielding a flame-thrower (always a fucking flame-thrower) looked quite funny. In Alien we simply had Ripley refusing admittance.
One review said something that made sense; it's good but it's made for the multi-plex.
Like a lot of art these days there are grandiose claims but the commercial reality intrudes and undermines.



Ah that's one I have not seen. Wonder if it's on Netflix?

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Master and Commander was good.>> ^Deano:

I'd argue Scott has not made a decent film since Gladiator.
All of this ties into my impressions of the trailer. I've not seen it but in some respects it reminds me of Alien and that bit with Theron wielding a flame-thrower (always a fucking flame-thrower) looked quite funny. In Alien we simply had Ripley refusing admittance.
One review said something that made sense; it's good but it's made for the multi-plex.
Like a lot of art these days there are grandiose claims but the commercial reality intrudes and undermines.

I'd argue Scott has not made a decent film since Gladiator.

All of this ties into my impressions of the trailer. I've not seen it but in some respects it reminds me of Alien and that bit with Theron wielding a flame-thrower (always a fucking flame-thrower) looked quite funny. In Alien we simply had Ripley refusing admittance.

One review said something that made sense; it's good but it's made for the multi-plex.

Like a lot of art these days there are grandiose claims but the commercial reality intrudes and undermines.