>> ^ant:

>> ^EvilDeathBee:
I liked Alien 3. Wasn't anywhere near as good as Alien or Aliens, but was enjoyable and a damn sight better than this bucket of excrement. I held back buying the Alien Quadrilogy for a bit because of Alien Resurrection in it, but then I threw the DVD in the trash and the guilt washed away!
Also, I don't understand why Doug dislikes Gladiator...

Wait, you threw DVD away into the trash? You should just had given it away!


Don't cheapen my moment of clarity! Besides, have you ever tried to give away a piece of shit?

>> ^EvilDeathBee:

I liked Alien 3. Wasn't anywhere near as good as Alien or Aliens, but was enjoyable and a damn sight better than this bucket of excrement. I held back buying the Alien Quadrilogy for a bit because of Alien Resurrection in it, but then I threw the DVD in the trash and the guilt washed away!
Also, I don't understand why Doug dislikes Gladiator...


Wait, you threw DVD away into the trash? You should just had given it away!

I liked Alien 3. Wasn't anywhere near as good as Alien or Aliens, but was enjoyable and a damn sight better than this bucket of excrement. I held back buying the Alien Quadrilogy for a bit because of Alien Resurrection in it, but then I threw the DVD in the trash and the guilt washed away!

Also, I don't understand why Doug dislikes Gladiator...

Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? >> ^cosmovitelli:

Surely you can't be serious.
>> ^critical_d:
I love this movie!!

>> ^Stormsinger:

Meh...just another monster flick with a huge FX budget and crappy story.


Stay home and play XBox, then.

Alien, Blade Runner, Gladiator, Kingdom of Heaven, et al... I'll take my chances that this is gonna be yet another incredible movie from Ridley Scott. I don't go out to see a lot of movies nowadays, but once in a while one comes along that begs to be seen on the big screen. This ain't no "Transformers" or "Twilight" tripe. Can't wait to see it.

@Quboid True the word Sheeple may be a little harsh. Frankly I dont like pulling a large group of people into any kind of category.

@budzos I figured you did but I guess in my eyes the prank should be hilarious whether you care about football or not. Oh and my mother in law has done the fake death prank a couple of times and I know my parents did the same thing. I have continued the tradition in my family to my wifes dismay.

But I can care less myself about a bunch of overpaid gladiators killing each other on the field. I was tortured with the game many a family gatherings as a child and the torture continues to this day so I can see how this is would be a bit more funny to me then someone who likes to watch it. cheers!

I laughed at an image i had of ancient Romans sitting watching and shouting; "WTF, get the gladiators out here." Seriously though, I wonder what they would make of it.

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I wonder if there is a Gladiator theme song one.

I wonder if there is a Gladiator theme song one.

@DerHasisttot too

The book is repetitious (Annoying filler) and also speculates every now and again--however, that speculation is clearly an educated guess. Take Caligula's death. Everyone knows he was assassinated. However, the author speculates that he had himself killed.

First, Caligula thought himself a god, so death wasn't really bad--in fact it was the next step since he was pretty much at the top. Hard to do more than become a god. So, his list was done, and it was all downhill.

Second, he had a wicked going away party. A boat decked out with gold floorboards, a week long orgy, then the final day. That day he got in front of everyone in the arena, had his favorite gladiator bugger his ass and then had that irreplaceable stud executed during climax.

Third, he had placed an incompetent man to replace him--of course it was speculated that the man just played the retard so he would survive. For Caligula it was hard to look bad when you had a stuttering fool replacing you.

This timeline was very convincing to the author so he noted what he thought. But he noted it may not have been the case because, as we have noted, the past was tainted by people who hated those emperors and by time itself. In fact, the author notes their tainted testimony multiple times. What more can the author do besides that?

Of course people don't care about those notes, do they?

Oh, and watching the History Channel version--there is not much of a difference... In fact, I think he cheated and took material from that rendition.

>> ^alien_concept:

>> ^DerHasisttot:
Hehe. Reminds me of a lecture I once attended, roughly translated: "Never trust a book about Nero: Ancient propaganda."
Edit: Not even Tacitus is a credible source, he used hearsay, had an own agenda, emphasised and left out facts.

@ lawdeedaw: I looked up the book on amazon, and I tend to trust the bad reviews there because they are the least likely to be written by a publicist or the author; according to the bad review, the book is not accurate. Of course this mustn't be true.

I guess most ancient history can never be truly accurate. Historians surely would gather every source they could and puzzle it together. I wonder what is accurate and how that guy on amazon knows for a fact, haha

>> ^jmd:

Chaos, not so much. Gladiator fights doesn't seem like the type of thing that would make a robber re-offend. infact stuff like this could be considered a good deterrent. I don't find it unusual for private jail facilities. The government is always known for its inability to streamline cost, so there is money to be made by doing just that. Unfortunately much like red light cameras, once something is moved out of official hands, they no longer want anything to do with it, no official supervision. Eventually corruption weaves its way in with the lure of money and this happens.
Just like red light cameras, I am fine with privatization of correctional facilities, but I am severely dissapointed in the lack of oversight, because even those with the best of intentions eventually do something wrong if not supervised and this is one of the areas where you cant fck up...even just once.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eNrgpVp70U&NR=1

>> ^jmd:

Chaos, not so much. Gladiator fights doesn't seem like the type of thing that would make a robber re-offend. infact stuff like this could be considered a good deterrent. I don't find it unusual for private jail facilities. The government is always known for its inability to streamline cost, so there is money to be made by doing just that. Unfortunately much like red light cameras, once something is moved out of official hands, they no longer want anything to do with it, no official supervision. Eventually corruption weaves its way in with the lure of money and this happens.
Just like red light cameras, I am fine with privatization of correctional facilities, but I am severely dissapointed in the lack of oversight, because even those with the best of intentions eventually do something wrong if not supervised and this is one of the areas where you cant fck up...even just once.


wait...what?
you are fine with correctional institutions being privatized?
and your main point is streamlining cash?
did i read your comment correctly?

have you even considered the implications of a powerful lobby driven by this privatized institution you have no problem with?
considered how they may use these lobbyists to influence lawmakers?
because an empty cell=NO MONEY!
so it would be in their best interest to lobby for stricter and harsher sentences that include mandatory jail time.
oh wait....
thats riiiight.they already did that didnt they?
or have you never heard of the "3 strikes" rule?
now go look up who pushed for that to be implemented...
notice anything? think thats a coincidence?

america has more people in prison RIGHT NOW than any other country combined.mostly non-violent.
but its so heart-warming to know that you consider a good ass kicking a good "deterrent" for re-offending.
i KNOW!
lets televise these brutal beatings so you can bet actual cash and watch from the comfort of your sofa!

christ on a stick.please tell me your comment was sarcasm.

Chaos, not so much. Gladiator fights doesn't seem like the type of thing that would make a robber re-offend. infact stuff like this could be considered a good deterrent. I don't find it unusual for private jail facilities. The government is always known for its inability to streamline cost, so there is money to be made by doing just that. Unfortunately much like red light cameras, once something is moved out of official hands, they no longer want anything to do with it, no official supervision. Eventually corruption weaves its way in with the lure of money and this happens.

Just like red light cameras, I am fine with privatization of correctional facilities, but I am severely dissapointed in the lack of oversight, because even those with the best of intentions eventually do something wrong if not supervised and this is one of the areas where you cant fck up...even just once.