>> ^chicchorea:

With the energy demonstrated, except for shot to temple at close range perhaps, not lethal.
Still, with refinement....


I formally disagree.

You can poison tip the end, give it a barb or two, assemble some fashion of exploding tip.

Or make the projectile more sleek and pointed to go through or between a rib.

or bleed out... gangrene..

lots of ways to die from this thing, I wish not to count thee ways though.

With the energy demonstrated, except for shot to temple at close range perhaps, not lethal.

Still, with refinement....

Social context folks.
1. Not every crime is perpetrated by a violent thug.

That is true, but this was one was, by cowards running in a pack (not one of which suggested what they were planning was stupid).

Those kids obviously weren't even mature enough to know what the hell they were doing while tryin' to rob those pudgy gaming patrons.

To us watching our screens with the full story explained, they were "just dumb kids". When you're being attacked, it's a little different. How were the victims to know if the vermin didn't have knives (a far deadlier weapon at close range).

2. THEY COULDN'T EVEN ROB CHUBBY GAMER KIDS!

I salute their incompetence, but that shouldn't soften any penalties.

They live in a fairly small, upper middle-class town.
That's why the only got slapped on the wrists.

Assuming you lean left, shouldn't that outrage you that these spoiled youths and their tax-loophole parents beat the system?

Tho of course, your cure-all solution is a gun.

Foe self-defense, it's hard to beat.

3. If you guys had it your way:

The store owner would have had been armed. Right.

That's his choice. I'd have preferred he be armed as probably would those Americans that protect their lives and property (usually without a shot being fired) over 2 million times a year.

..But the kids probably would have been armed too.

And they would have gone to prison for it.

Since the little shits probably definitely would have known about the gun just like the panic button.

Or they might have decided "maybe a Nitendo DS (sic) isn't worth getting shot over."


Congrats!
Now you have an Armed Dick Wagglin' Contest between two or more completely inept humans.
Who gonna shoot first?!

Oh, that's right.
You guys don't know..

Or care, because you're already off curing socialism with AKs.

All right, I think we're done here. It's your right to be a victim, just don't extend it to others.

>> ^JiggaJonson:

Maybe that's true, here i'll test myself. I counted 34 different slo mo things in this video (+/- 1-2 b/c im not watching that crap again), you'll have to trust me to be honest but let's see how long it takes me to come up with 35!!! different ideas, clock starting now!
1 pheobe cates getting out of a pool o shit that's already been done (clock still running)
1 throwing a card into a watermelon
2 breaking bottle with a rock
3 dropping a penny on a table and watching it bouce
4 shooting a grape with a shotgun @ close range
5 breaking a lightbulb by having a stampede of wild stallions run it over
6 unplugging a thumb drive
7 taking a bite of a sandwich with too much peanut butter on it
8 jumping...you know, up and down but then like I'd slow it down just before your feet left the ground then speed it up b/c im cool
9 taking a radiator out of a car
10 riping a leaf in half
11 guy getting frustrated trying to open a letter without a letter opener then finally he rips it open
12 making a mojito then me drinking it
13 man struggling not to look at a womans breasts as she bends over then he gets slapped in the face with a baloon filled with paint
14 woman farting in a bathtub
15 flipping a pancake
16 tuberculosis infecting the cells of a young person in a third world country
17 squeezing a lemon into a can of yellow paint
18 hitting a printer with a mallet b/c it doesnt work
19 washing a car in the automatic washer
20 frying bacon
21 changing faces on a mr potato head
22 dropping a rotten tomato a short distance and it doesnt splat
23 droping the same rotten tomato from a third story building
24 baseball bat hitting ball made of concrete
25 alligator snatching up it's baby giraffe dinner
26 tieing shoes
27 hitting a marshmellow with a stun gun and setting it on fire with electricity
28 throwing a knife
29 wiping my ass
30 tree parts going into a wood chipper
31 opening a fortune cookie
32 sneezing
33 getting punched by the dude you sneezed on
34 punching the guy back with the stink palm hand leftover from the ass wipe
35 flashback to the moment in the bathroom when i decided not to wash my hands
wow that was a bit longer than i thought it was going to be i'll have to admit
it ended up being 14:17 although most of that was probably due to typing time.
No worries, acc to you i just made some art.

>>>>>>>>>


Yogi said:
No but I believe the set up and the ideas in some of these clips show a degree of creativity that could be considered "Art".


No, you have listed a bunch of neat stuff that could look cool in slow-motion. The point Yogi was trying to make is that the "art" portion of this video comes from unique camera angles, setup, different colors used (Primary), engaging background music, the switching of time-shifting, ect... were all carefully constructed to make this video intriguing. And that, my friend, is art.

>> ^Yogi:

No but I believe the set up and the ideas in some of these clips show a degree of creativity that could be considered "Art".


Maybe that's true, here i'll test myself. I counted 34 different slo mo things in this video (+/- 1-2 b/c im not watching that crap again), you'll have to trust me to be honest but let's see how long it takes me to come up with 35!!! different ideas, clock starting now!

1 pheobe cates getting out of a pool o shit that's already been done (clock still running)
1 throwing a card into a watermelon
2 breaking bottle with a rock
3 dropping a penny on a table and watching it bouce
4 shooting a grape with a shotgun @ close range
5 breaking a lightbulb by having a stampede of wild stallions run it over
6 unplugging a thumb drive
7 taking a bite of a sandwich with too much peanut butter on it
8 jumping...you know, up and down but then like I'd slow it down just before your feet left the ground then speed it up b/c im cool
9 taking a radiator out of a car
10 riping a leaf in half
11 guy getting frustrated trying to open a letter without a letter opener then finally he rips it open
12 making a mojito then me drinking it
13 man struggling not to look at a womans breasts as she bends over then he gets slapped in the face with a baloon filled with paint
14 woman farting in a bathtub
15 flipping a pancake
16 tuberculosis infecting the cells of a young person in a third world country
17 squeezing a lemon into a can of yellow paint
18 hitting a printer with a mallet b/c it doesnt work
19 washing a car in the automatic washer
20 frying bacon
21 changing faces on a mr potato head
22 dropping a rotten tomato a short distance and it doesnt splat
23 droping the same rotten tomato from a third story building
24 baseball bat hitting ball made of concrete
25 alligator snatching up it's baby giraffe dinner
26 tieing shoes
27 hitting a marshmellow with a stun gun and setting it on fire with electricity
28 throwing a knife
29 wiping my ass
30 tree parts going into a wood chipper
31 opening a fortune cookie
32 sneezing
33 getting punched by the dude you sneezed on
34 punching the guy back with the stink palm hand leftover from the ass wipe
35 flashback to the moment in the bathroom when i decided not to wash my hands

wow that was a bit longer than i thought it was going to be i'll have to admit
it ended up being 14:17 although most of that was probably due to typing time.

No worries, acc to you i just made some art.

From LiveLeak: A B.C. filmmaker says he's lucky to be alive after narrowly avoiding a grizzly attack while filming in the Robson Valley, southeast of Prince George.

Leon Lorenz, who lives in Dunster, B.C., was filming grizzly bears in a nearby valley last Monday evening when he spotted a bear and her cub.

Lorenz said he took cover behind a spruce tree so he could film the bears without disturbing them, but the mother bear picked up his scent.

She turned suddenly, he said, and looked him right in the eyes.

Then, roaring, she charged through the trees right at Lorenz.

He recalls thinking, "This is for real. This is … no bluff charge."

Lorenz set the camera down on a tripod, capturing everything on film, and grabbed his handgun with the hopes of firing a warning shot to scare the grizzly off.

Crouched behind the tree, he aimed his gun high and pulled the trigger — just as the grizzly burst through the branches of the tree, a few feet from where he was hiding.

Lorenz said the shot spooked the bear, which he estimates weighed between 400 and 500 pounds, and she ran off with her cub.

"I knew if I would have run, I wouldn't be here," he said.

"If I didn't have my handgun, even if I would have fired a shot a quarter of a second later, the blast would have been too late. She would have been on me."

'I just thank God that I'm still here'
Lorenz said it's an experience he'll never forget.

"It's something that will stay with me for life. … It was really something that I never expected and I think I've grown from it," he said.

"I think even if I would have hit her, even a very fatal shot … she would have had enough life left in her to do me in."

He believes it would have been nearly impossible to survive an attack at such a close range.

"They were both so fast. It's unbelievable — the speed — and I just thank God that I'm still here."

Lorenz said he's grateful both he and the grizzly survived the encounter.

"The timing couldn't have been more perfect," he said. "The outcome couldn't have been more perfect as far as, you know, I wasn't touched, she wasn't wounded, she wasn't killed, her baby's OK … and I was able to capture the whole thing [on film]."

Lorenz said he has had about a dozen grizzly encounters, but a bear had never charged at him before.

"It just really shows … that their personalities are all different, just like people," he said.

"But also, it shows that they're unpredictable because they can be one way one day and totally different another day and … you just have to be as careful as you can."

> Secondly, those paintballs would do serious damage at that close range.

i have shot a friend at 1 foot range with paintball guns

i have been punched hard by friends too

Also.. "he's got a knife"... If you did have a knife, you wouldn't run at a van where they are also shooting you with a paintball gun. Secondly, those paintballs would do serious damage at that close range. Most thieves would run like hell. It's a viral ad for whatever the stupid hand logo goes to, or maybe paintball equipment.

Aiyyo my songs on, I gotta get my grub on some to-to
(I love to-to) order three buckets of mo-mo
We gettin more dough, off the books (you gettin gelly)
Pullin more hoes off the looks (you gettin gelly)
You wan hate me? cause your wifey, wants a autograph?
From the look in her eyes, I can see she wants more than that
When I see fat asses I make fat passes like quarterback
Beatnuts is alla that, your shit, all the wack
Open can-dela, if you foolin wit mah cheddah
Hardrock, ever since, junior high suela
Fly fella, takin my beats, to make your crowd get up
Im fed up, niggaz wanna bring it -- whatever!
Ima storm your pa-rade (pa-rade) blow your legs off
With a gre-nade, now you flappin, like a mermaid
Yappin off, bitch you cough at the lips
While Im at the bar, baggin, the bartender tips
Then I bag this chick, with a, hi, and the eye
She did the butterfly, rubbin her ass, against my buttonfly
I could already imagine my shit stuck inside
Everytime I strike, haters be like, dat fucking guy!

Hows that yo? its hard for you to swallow
It dont take much for us to let the metal holla
Leads bustin out of a old black impala
Thug nigga only fuck wit, muchacha malla
Big ju, dime lo conllo, how we do? , how we do? (how we do)
(how the girl dont only love me, they love you!)
Whatchu gonna do? (what, what, what? )
Nigga whatchu gonna do? (what, yo)

Heres to my pollyin niggaz who campaign
To the killers who be lovin the chicas and champagne
Thugs who get wild in the club and snatch chains
Players who be pimpin the hoes with no brains
Front watch a nigga get shot from close range
The most range, crazy motherfucker wont change
Beatnuts, forever diehard, you want pain?
Cause you walkin outta here breathin is insane
Flip a beat fast, you leave the club with a heat rash
You got a weak stash, came in the club with a free pass
I aint even know they made a roley for your cheap ass
Makin me laugh, you was in jail wearin kneepads
Now the beef has, gotten over your head
Its over you dead, ranger rover, both of your legs
Til both of us said, platinum gettin took this year
Cause for real, there aint nothin but crooks in here, nigga

^shooting a .22 at a wall, twice, at close range, is a betterthanaverage way of attempting to kill yourself.

anyway, won't somebody think of the (genetically retarded) children here?

i can't get over the bit the guy says about "bad things happen to good people"... like wtf?
this isn't some accident. it's not like people use .22s all the time to install TV, ffs... luck had NOTHING to do with it.

Hitting him intentionally was justified, in my opinion. Maybe I've played too much grand theft auto, but that seems like a pretty good way to deal with a knife wielding maniac.

What's your alternative? Get out of the car and try and Taser him from close range as he charges you? No, that's not reasonable. The only alternative is shooting him. And incapacitating him with a moderate speed collision seems more humane, actually.

In the last video, Eric invited me to make a comment about the video... therefore I feel obligated to comment here, though I won't make it as long as my previous...

I am in agreement with the power of tangential learning... I remember in one mario party minigame, you have 2 people carrying a log down a hallway and had to manuver through the hallway while having to backtrack a bit to proceed... The following week, I had to move a mattress and the pernciples were still the same as in the game...

Of course you don't need an educational game, but when you do have a game, it should still have something so that you can learn while playing... Whether it be something that is helpful in life or even teaching us something...

My Evidence...
http://www.videosift.com/video/Learn-Who-Chopin-is-while-playing-a-video-game

In some idea, this is exactly what the video talks about at times... In conclusion, please see gaming companies, please teach us something worthwhile... not every game has to be something in which you have to kill someone with a shotgun... What does that teach us? Other than shotguns are kick ass at close range, thats about it...

Appreciating the intelligent reponses in my defense here, so to counterbalance those, MORE QM.

BECAUSE he had a knife and NOT a gun, only ONE person was killed, he wasn't able to shoot through the windows at people, he could be easily contained, couldn't shoot people as they exited the bus. etc. You've instead showed how much LESS dangerous knives are compared to guns. One is a close range, limited damage area weapon, the other can kill people at a distance.

You're somewhat correct. I should've been more precise regarding who would have a gun, the baddie or citizens. It could've been both who had guns, instead it was none. In the time frame the kook killed one victim he could just as easily stabbed 5 or 6 more people, blended in with the panicked passengers, gotten off the bus and stabbed even more people (knives don't jam). Bladed weapons are the worst...faced with such a kook the most trained martial artists would engage in "Run Fu" if they could.

I'm less concerned about the weapons involved than the complete and utter lack of martial spirit in that society.

I agree with those who think the victim really had no chance. Even if it was some kind of magical holodeck simulation where the interviewed kid would be back in the same place knowing of the impending attack, I doubt he or 99% of human beings would have the skills and speed to stop such an assault.

And to try and suggest that the death penalty is the best thing here... bravo sir. That's the way to solve everything, kill the baddies. I'm sure you'd like them to have shot him on the spot wouldn't you? So then we could have no idea of understanding why this happened or how we can prevent such things happening again.

It would have been great had the killer raised his knife to the cops and been blown away. Whether or not he was mentally ill, he would've been removed from the gene pool for the betterment of all.

If he's ruled competent and goes to court, his actions would certainly merit the death penalty, which is punishment, not vengeance.

If he's criminally insane, he and we would also be better off putting him to sleep. Use the "freebie" to test the equipment (joking...I think).

Mercy for the guilty is cruelty to the innocent.

>> ^MarineGunrock:
>> ^spoco2:
>> ^quantumushroom:
It's a good thing no one had a gun, otherwise someone might've gotten hurt.
And the psycho will not be executed because Canada "humanely" has no death penalty.
Good work, Canucks!

What a completely insanely stupid comment QM.
BECAUSE he had a knife and NOT a gun, only ONE person was killed, he wasn't able to shoot through the windows at people, he could be easily contained, couldn't shoot people as they exited the bus. etc. You've instead showed how much LESS dangerous knives are compared to guns. One is a close range, limited damage area weapon, the other can kill people at a distance.
And to try and suggest that the death penalty is the best thing here... bravo sir. That's the way to solve everything, kill the baddies. I'm sure you'd like them to have shot him on the spot wouldn't you? So then we could have no idea of understanding why this happened or how we can prevent such things happening again.
Oh, and from the story I read just before seeing this it's not currently known what caused the man to do this, one would expect there's some severe mental problem going on, I'm sure we'll find out more later.
This is terrifying because of the completely unprovoked nature of the attack (apparently the guy killed was asleep at the time), and it could be enough to stop you wanting to go on a bus ever again, but you have to remember that this happened ONCE, out of how many bus trips every day, every year?

Seriously? You called QM's comment stupid?
1) QM was saying that it's too bad that NO ONE ELSE had a gun, not the attacker. Jeesh.
2) Just because you learn why ONE guy killed someone, doesn't mean that you can prevent OTHER people from doing it. Humans aren't fucking computers. They can't just be reprogrammed when a flaw in the code is found.


Oh so only EVERYONE ELSE are allowed guns, just not the guys that spontaneously and without warning turn from a sensible, clear thinking passenger of a bus into a raving psychopath with killing tendencies? Oh ok, we'll just do that, then.

So guys, listen up - anyone that will at some point in the future turn from a normal, sane, clear headed individual into a raving psychopath drop your weapons now, and anyone that will never do all that just go to your local arming station and pick up a rifle, ok?

Yeah? That ok everyone? Good. Make sure you don't turn spontaenously and without warning into a raving psychopath, because then you'd be able to kill more and faster. Ok? You sure you won't? You're definitely telling the truth? Ok, good. Here's some more ammunition.

...
If we'd just killed someone as a kneejerk response to outbursts of life-threatening violence or sporadic and unprompted murder, it would have meant that we would have been far slower in our assessment of mental conditions and our ability to protect others from the effects of such.

>> ^spoco2:
>> ^quantumushroom:
It's a good thing no one had a gun, otherwise someone might've gotten hurt.
And the psycho will not be executed because Canada "humanely" has no death penalty.
Good work, Canucks!

What a completely insanely stupid comment QM.
BECAUSE he had a knife and NOT a gun, only ONE person was killed, he wasn't able to shoot through the windows at people, he could be easily contained, couldn't shoot people as they exited the bus. etc. You've instead showed how much LESS dangerous knives are compared to guns. One is a close range, limited damage area weapon, the other can kill people at a distance.
And to try and suggest that the death penalty is the best thing here... bravo sir. That's the way to solve everything, kill the baddies. I'm sure you'd like them to have shot him on the spot wouldn't you? So then we could have no idea of understanding why this happened or how we can prevent such things happening again.
Oh, and from the story I read just before seeing this it's not currently known what caused the man to do this, one would expect there's some severe mental problem going on, I'm sure we'll find out more later.
This is terrifying because of the completely unprovoked nature of the attack (apparently the guy killed was asleep at the time), and it could be enough to stop you wanting to go on a bus ever again, but you have to remember that this happened ONCE, out of how many bus trips every day, every year?


Seriously? You called QM's comment stupid?
1) QM was saying that it's too bad that NO ONE ELSE had a gun, not the attacker. Jeesh.
2) Just because you learn why ONE guy killed someone, doesn't mean that you can prevent OTHER people from doing it. Humans aren't fucking computers. They can't just be reprogrammed when a flaw in the code is found.