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MINK says...

yeah don't worry dude i am not criticising, and yes american is definitely not a race, especially if you are going to say a race is defined by a consistent skin colour, white, black or asian...
it just gets more tricky when you start trying to include other things like "hispanic" as a race... i recommend the christopher walken speech in true romance
and don't get a lithuanian started on "balto-slavic".

anyway it's only really a problem if you start saying one race is better than another. except we all know black guys are good at running...

In reply to this comment by SaNdMaN:
Well, yes, it depends on the context of course. In some ways I consider myself a Russian and in some ways an American. But the fact remains that those aren't races, which is what our argument was about. My race is white or caucasian.

In reply to this comment by MINK:
Well it's funny because you are calling yourself Russian but not living in Russia, which was kind of my point.

It's a personal thing what you call yourself in this mixed up global community, i just find it interesting.

When people ask me where I am from, I say something like "vilnius, born in UK".
When people ask me if i am english I say something like "I am a vilniusian but i have a british passport".

I find it easier to tie my identity to the historically cosmopolitan city of vilnius, not the nation of lithuania (which is a joke) or the nation of the UK (which is also a joke and I really would rather not be associated with it too much). I have lived in Vilnius for 5 years so, i am british by birth only, english by language only. If you wanna invade Vilnius, I might consider defending it. If you wanna invade the UK, be my freaking guest.

Hope that's at least a little bit interesting



In reply to this comment by SaNdMaN:
Um, I guess you could say that. Why is that so hilarious though?

In reply to this comment by MINK:
Hahahahahaha classic
so you're a bloody yank!



In reply to this comment by SaNdMaN:
Oh, I'm in the US. Since '94. Moved from Moscow when I was 12.

In reply to this comment by MINK:

Anyway, where in Russia are you? I still haven't visited... but I would love to go make some music over there...

lucky760 (Member Profile)

MINK says...

In reply to this comment by lucky760:
Dag explained why he hobbled UsesProzac in her profile.


And UsesProzac explained her denial of guilt.

And nobody saw this unless they went to UP's or dag's profile.

I can't possibly know who to believe if the whole thing is behind closed doors. That's the point.

Murderers might be scum but they still get a fair trial, with evidence presented in the open, and rigid procedures for appeal.

SaNdMaN (Member Profile)

MINK says...

Well it's funny because you are calling yourself Russian but not living in Russia, which was kind of my point.

It's a personal thing what you call yourself in this mixed up global community, i just find it interesting.

When people ask me where I am from, I say something like "vilnius, born in UK".
When people ask me if i am english I say something like "I am a vilniusian but i have a british passport".

I find it easier to tie my identity to the historically cosmopolitan city of vilnius, not the nation of lithuania (which is a joke) or the nation of the UK (which is also a joke and I really would rather not be associated with it too much). I have lived in Vilnius for 5 years so, i am british by birth only, english by language only. If you wanna invade Vilnius, I might consider defending it. If you wanna invade the UK, be my freaking guest.

Hope that's at least a little bit interesting



In reply to this comment by SaNdMaN:
Um, I guess you could say that. Why is that so hilarious though?

In reply to this comment by MINK:
Hahahahahaha classic
so you're a bloody yank!



In reply to this comment by SaNdMaN:
Oh, I'm in the US. Since '94. Moved from Moscow when I was 12.

In reply to this comment by MINK:

Anyway, where in Russia are you? I still haven't visited... but I would love to go make some music over there...

SaNdMaN (Member Profile)

SaNdMaN (Member Profile)

MINK says...

And I have the honour of sleeping with one. But her family has been in Lithuania for years and her grandmother was in Poland. They're Old Believers. So technically their state rejected them hundreds of years ago and they STILL call themselves Russian... it's a blood thing not a national thing, but they use the name of the nation to describe the blood. As an "englishman" i kinda accept that all blood is mixed anyway.

Anyway, where in Russia are you? I still haven't visited... but I would love to go make some music over there...



In reply to this comment by SaNdMaN:
Well, I agree with that of course. I'm Russian.

In reply to this comment by MINK:
we're just arguing about the definition of "race" which is like... incredibly arguable.

main thing is, you shouldn't think it's ok to laugh at videos of russian stupidity as if it's genetic.


In reply to this comment by SaNdMaN:
It's a nationality and an ethnicity ("a group of human beings whose members identify with each other, through a common heritage that is real or presumed"). It's certainly not a race, just like French or German is not a race.

In reply to this comment by MINK:
privyet

let's just say russians consider themselves to be a race more than anglosaxons do. we're all the human race if you want to get strict about it.

and the kind of insults russians get are more racial than national... meaning they are more about insulting some kind of genetic stupidity of "the russians" rather than talking about the state of russia.

fourth generation russian emigrants in lithuania still call themselves Russian and don't intermarry. That's... kinda racially minded.




In reply to this comment by SaNdMaN:
>> ^MINK:
maybe mintbbb should fix the title, and everyone who thinks it's ok to be racist about russians should check their attitude.


"Russian" isn't a race.

SaNdMaN (Member Profile)

MINK says...

we're just arguing about the definition of "race" which is like... incredibly arguable.

main thing is, you shouldn't think it's ok to laugh at videos of russian stupidity as if it's genetic.


In reply to this comment by SaNdMaN:
It's a nationality and an ethnicity ("a group of human beings whose members identify with each other, through a common heritage that is real or presumed"). It's certainly not a race, just like French or German is not a race.

In reply to this comment by MINK:
privyet

let's just say russians consider themselves to be a race more than anglosaxons do. we're all the human race if you want to get strict about it.

and the kind of insults russians get are more racial than national... meaning they are more about insulting some kind of genetic stupidity of "the russians" rather than talking about the state of russia.

fourth generation russian emigrants in lithuania still call themselves Russian and don't intermarry. That's... kinda racially minded.




In reply to this comment by SaNdMaN:
>> ^MINK:
maybe mintbbb should fix the title, and everyone who thinks it's ok to be racist about russians should check their attitude.


"Russian" isn't a race.

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SaNdMaN (Member Profile)

MINK says...

privyet

let's just say russians consider themselves to be a race more than anglosaxons do. we're all the human race if you want to get strict about it.

and the kind of insults russians get are more racial than national... meaning they are more about insulting some kind of genetic stupidity of "the russians" rather than talking about the state of russia.

fourth generation russian emigrants in lithuania still call themselves Russian and don't intermarry. That's... kinda racially minded.




In reply to this comment by SaNdMaN:
>> ^MINK:
maybe mintbbb should fix the title, and everyone who thinks it's ok to be racist about russians should check their attitude.


"Russian" isn't a race.

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MINK says...

welcome new user i just promoted your first clip because it was so awesome, and now it has been published, so you are officially not a new user any more

find more like that! this place needs shaking up.

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